Itachi has been portrayed as....

[Icelerate]

Hold on, I don't recall Itachi constantly feeling unwell whenever he was fighting. Don't overexaggerate things, the real Itachi, the one with the disease, was the one which fought Kakashi and co. The one who was warned against overusing his MS due to his low chakra reserves. People have a false idea of what sick Itachi is due to the fact that it was sensationalized in his fight against Sasuke. He was only coughing up blood to that degree because he was already close to death and had used up practically all of his chakra.

When Itachi was saying that he has to retreat because he overused the Mangekyou sharingan, maybe he wanted to make an excuse to retreat because he didn't want to kill Jiraiya or capture Naruto. I think he wasted tsukiyomi twice just to make an excuse that he is about to faint so that he can persuade Kisame to retreat. Also just because Kimimaro got a 4.5 in stamina does not mean that healthy Itachi would have low stamina. Kimimaro was probably a stamina beast before he became sick but this is just speculation at this point so I have nothing to say really.

@OP: I somewhat agree with what you said. Itachi is definitely overrated by many but I think you are somewhat underrating him. His power and skills as a ninja rivals that of Minato, Sasuke, Mu and Killer Bee and he is a somewhat stronger than sage Jiraiya.

The manga does portray Jiraiya to be stronger than he really is so I guess what you say is correct. Remember though, Jiraiya is also portrayed to be equal to Orochimaru and Itachi is portrayed to be well above Oro's level. This means that Itachi is on a tier above both Jiraiya and Orochimaru.

Jiraiya got a lot of false hype in the manga. He can not hold his own against both Itachi and Kisame at the same time. He can't beat the six paths of pain at the same time either. Pain said he could do this only because he wanted to give respect and a tribute to his dead sensei. He clearly had respect for Jiraiya and his powers.

On the other hand, Itachi got some false hype as well. He is not invincible like zetsu said he was.

 

[niknika]

Wow, i'm seeing nonsense like Itachi soloed Nagato...don't make me laugh.



Illness doesn't affect chakra, unless you can back up your statement with a manga page.

No you back it up. Told you, kimimaro had a curse seal, which increases stamina and chakra a lot. Plus itachi had different "illness". I kow that's hard to imagine buy there are a LOT of different illnesses. Unless you provide a page that clearly states that itachis illness had nothing to do with him not being able to use his full strength, you are wrong because it is foreshadowed otherwise, because kishi went through a lot of trouble to explain that.

 

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Wow lmao this dude ain't playin'!!! Dude just went in!!

 

[Ryuu..]

But illness strains your body and brings you to your limits consequently faster. If you're sick, already limited movements like going up stairs can be difficult. And Itachis illness was on a state where he had to take medicaments to stay even alive for the day to fight Sasuke.

If you notice some moments in his fight with Sasuke, he spat blood where he could further fight; for example when he touched his heart and spat blood while using Susanoo.

Of course it strains his body, but i'm talking only about his chakra reserves.

No you back it up. Told you, kimimaro had a curse seal, which increases stamina and chakra a lot. Plus itachi had different "illness". I kow that's hard to imagine buy there are a LOT of different illnesses. Unless you provide a page that clearly states that itachis illness had nothing to do with him not being able to use his full strength, you are wrong because it is foreshadowed otherwise, because kishi went through a lot of trouble to explain that.

Databooks offer base stats, not powerups like Sage Mode or Curse Mark. Try again. Kimimaro died mid attack from his illness. If anything, his was worse than Itachi's.

 

[realobito1]

What ediot tries to compare part 1 chakra reserves to part 2. just look at kakashi if you want proof that part 1 limits no longer apply. Sasuke fought a dead person when he fought itachi. Itachi did not have the stamina fight that battle but did so through pure willpower. No one said his chakra was low, he simply could not put that type of strain on his body in his condition. I think we all can agree that kimmimaro did not do even half as much amazing stuff as itachi did. Kimmimaro overdid it after one super powerful move. Itachi used Ama twice plus tsukuyomi and on top of it used sasoono all while he was supposed to be long dead. he used what little life he had left.

 

[Strict]

Of course it strains his body, but i'm talking only about his chakra reserves.

Yes it doesn't change his Chakra reserves but changes his stamina which is not only based on the chakra by itself. Maybe Itachi didn't reach his chakra limit then, but the sickness drained on his stamina and let him die. He had his Susanoo activated to the last moment and died. Even Zetsu mentioned that Itachi was restricted by his sickness well. So a healthy Itachi would survive actually longer.

 

[Ryuu..]

Yes it doesn't change his Chakra reserves but changes his stamina which is not only based on the chakra by itself. Maybe Itachi didn't reach his chakra limit then, but the sickness drained on his stamina and let him die. He had his Susanoo activated to the last moment and died. Even Zetsu mentioned that Itachi was restricted by his sickness well. So a healthy Itachi would survive actually longer.

Yes and I fully accept that. But people have the crazy idea that healthy Itachi is just like Edo Itachi but without the regeneration abilities. I've seen him be overestimated in this right.

 

[realobito1]

Zetsu pals around with some of the strongest ninja in all of naruto and said that itachi of all people was invincable. He has the perfect defense and the strongest genjutsu in all of naruto. Itachi fight was not a good rep of his skills and even then sasuke did not actually beat him.

 

[6pathofpain]

sure. top 10 but hes nowhere near strongest. even people like haku had potential to become strongest. its whether hes actually strongest that counts

sasuke who was desperately devoting chakra to holding back oro inside his mind, and was barely jounin level at the time...im so impressed...

wrong lol. nagato annhilates him

no minato and tobi are.

considering they werent immortal, bee and naruto were doing very well.

itachi is an evil and brutal villain who ruined a childs life and savagely beat two people into comas for no reason.

so is third raikages skin, and gaaras armour, and kakuzus armour. all the ones i named were broken or bypassed.

how do you know madara constantly used it? maybe he wanted to save it for later and ended up being caught off guard?

if he could break it alone why didnt he?

and muu. and danzo. and gaara. and tobi. and minato. and naruto.

nagato when he had just raped the village and was already near death. and despite fighting kyuubi head on, still had enough in the tank to revive the village

by what? we already know all ninjutsu dont work on rinnegan users. and nagatos not exactly slow.
when has he demonstrated genius? torturing and murdering children? letting millions of people suffer because hes too cowardly to take the lives of s-class criminals or pass intel to the 5 nations?
hes one of the worst human beings in narutoverse and everyone wasnt raped. he just tortured evil criminals and made them stronger due to their desire to kill him (oro, deidara, sasuke)

itachi murdered heroes who were trying to stand up against the corrupt tyrant elders, and regain political power which they had lost due to discrimination. and their baby children because a scary old man said so.

doesnt change the fact it was pure evil to kill babies cos an old man said he should and let another evil old man into the village to "help" him. the village wouldnt be weakened at all had the elders just given uchihas what they wanted, which was political respect.

strongest clan. those two guys commited a surprise attack on children women and old men.

because sasuke was his hebi version. EMS sauske is superior in every aspect.

no he isnt


no it wouldnt. if he didnt destroy his clan he could have just told them the truth, that tobi did it all and was manipulating all of them. or he could kill fugaku and make everyone think that shisui did it, then kill him too. then as the hero and new leader he could avoid all bloodshed. or he could help his clan launch a suprise attack and blackmail hiruzen after finishing off danzo and homura, into handing over power. then by morning they could make up whatever story they wanted, and tell hiruzen the alternative is war. or shisui could actually be competant and use his other koto eye on fugaku when danzo was busy. there are so many ways they could have stopped the situation other than following danzos obviously manipulative ways.

kabuto was kicking his ass till izanmi was finished preparations. and sasuke saved his ass 4 times

he would have been beaten easily without tobi

did you forget the only reason he edged out kabuto was edo immortality and sasuke saving him from kabuto when kabuto cut him in half?

so whyd he use tsukiyomi and get shocked when sasuke broke it?

yeah he sacrificed everything except what needed to be sacrificed.
did you forget nagato was crippled controlled and facing 3 people at once?

How isnt he easily top 10?

 

[6pathofpain]

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Wow lmao this dude ain't playin'!!! Dude just went in!!

lmfaooo hell yea this shit just got real! howd he say that to lmao

 

[Strict]

Yes and I fully accept that. But people have the crazy idea that healthy Itachi is just like Edo Itachi but without the regeneration abilities. I've seen him be overestimated in this right.

Yeah that's right, everyone who isn't an Edo has a limit, but on the other hand his stamina is underestimated, too. Itachi used a bunch of exhausting techniques then, against Sasuke. But somehow people ended up thinking that Itachi reaches his limit by using two, three Amaterasus, what is absolutely wrong. Every versus thread with him ends up with Itachis stamina which isn't even high enough to use two Amaterasu.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

As an Itachi fanboy, Itachi could stand up to anyone in the series. He is one of the most dangerous characters without knowledge. Everyone would be scared. I don't understand all the hate towards fanboys and their respective characters.Please people have their own opinion, so respect it. I think Itachi is the most respectable shinobi in the series. I mean, he did everything for his village, and protected his brother all he could. And you can be the toughest son of a gun alive but the last scene when Itachi left didn't get to you, then I don't know what type of person you are. Let the flaming begin~

lol that is not true, he would die to other character's unique abilities

 

[Ariow]

Even though I voted yes that he is overhyped you need to stop hating on Itachi so hard.

 

[Shamami]

The poll shows that the fanboys overrate him and disagree with what I said. It was a win-win poll for me.

so according to ur foolish logic u r right and everyone else is wrong:shrug:

 

[Shamami]

Itachi, Minato, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Nagato are all depicted as Top Tier Ninja with great plot importance from the author and all have the hax'd abilities to back it up, with Senjutsu, Mangekyo Sharingan, Rinnegan, and Flying Thunder God.

They are all within the same tier and it all comes down to circumstance (Knoweldge and Plot). With knowledge Jiraiya could beat Nagato, but without it he looses. Itachi and Jiraiya who have some knowledge on each other but not full could go ether way as he states. Minato wants to fight Jiraiya because it would also be an interesting battle since both have a great deal of knowledge on each other. Jiraiya and Orochimaru both have a large amount of knowledge on each other, but not complete so the match could go ether way which is why they are rivals. Itachi has greater knowledge of Orochimaru's skills than Orochimaru does on him which is why he beats Orochimaru.

I don't think one can say these shinobi stand no chance against each other if circumstances are manipulated.

totally agree

 

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[Uchiha AvengerX]

Sasuke only beat him because he was sick. He stated that he and Jiraiya would kill each other if they fought. Kabuto stated that Itachi is on a whole different level compare to the other shinobis.

No, my friend, Itachi let him win. Don't u remember when he could've burned him with amaterasu but decided to stop it?

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

GTFO troll. He could've killed sasuke at least twice when they fought. And now who did nagato beat?. You underrate itachi

sas didnt have MS and itachi did rofl HAHAH itachi fails bro if sas had MS he would KILLED EM sas had three tomoe sharigam HAHAH U FAILLLLLLLLLLLL

 

[Helikido]

Madara04 has no common sense at all. Saying that one of the most strong shinobis in naruto is not strong is overly retarded.

How the hell can Itachi not be op when he has amaturasu, tsykiyomi, totska blade and izanami which are all one hit techniques?!!!! you are arrogant! U_U