Is MS Sasuke stronger than SM Naruto?

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So I think it's settled MS Sasuke is stronger than Sm Naruto, but just slightly..

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Though i still doubt he would do has well against pain.
 

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Read his heart? What kind of crap is that? You cant find out how strong someone is by reading there heart.

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^. Thread title.


I kind of think so. I don't see SM Naruto dodging Susanoo Arrow or Amaterasu.


Not only that when SM Naruto runs out of senjutusu chakra he has to stand still to go SM. Susannoo Arrow will rip him to shreds.


Rasengans and Rasenshurikens isn't breaking thru Susanoo. If Naruto is careless and uses 2 rasenshurikens he will burn out of Sage Mode.


Summons can be easily handled with genjutsu and amaterasu. Personality wise Naruto wouldn't summon a frog if he knew it would get burned.

SM Naruto beats Sasuke EMS or MS.
-SM Kbauto dodged Amaterasu, why not Naruto? he did dodge 3rd Raikage afterall.
-Genjutsu only goes so far with sages. especially on Naruto.
-Rasenshuriekn breaking Susano'o is still debatable honestly.
 

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Read his heart? What kind of crap is that? You cant find out how strong someone is by reading there heart.

The same reason he knows that they're both going to die if they fight:shrug:.

Naruto must of Felt something or have some indication on how strong he was, or he wouldn't of said it.

But even so, you have yet given any valid argument on why Sm naruto beats Ms sasuke.

SM Naruto beats Sasuke EMS or MS.
-SM Kbauto dodged Amaterasu, why not Naruto? he did dodge 3rd Raikage afterall.
-Genjutsu only goes so far with sages. especially on Naruto.
-Rasenshuriekn breaking Susano'o is still debatable honestly.

Kabuto dodged susanoo's arrow not amaterasu.
 

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yes i agree ms sasuke was stronger mainly due to sussano naruto wuldnt be able to penetrate it and sasuke had attacks that culd hutt naruto or deter him one of them being able manipulate the flames around him so taijutsu from naruto wuld be rendered useless also i tink naruto said something like he culdnt defeat sasuke at that time or something like that
 

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Though i still doubt he would do has well against pain.

I guess he would to it better with his Amaterasu, Blaze Release, Susanoo and Kirin. He spammed his MS techniques about ten minutes in order to kill Danzo.

It is clearly obvious that Sasuke was stronger than Naruto at that point, feat wise and according to Narutos own words. So this isn't debatable. Put SM Naruto together with Hebi Sasuke and his curse seal and we would have a fight, but not against the Mangekyou Sharingan.
 

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Hmm, no. He admitted to be inferior to Sasuke after he met him the last time. So no, with the Sagemode he couldn't beat him.



Sharingan = SM
MS = KM
EMS = BM

BM naruto will rip apart EMS sasuke to pieces
do not try to underrate BM naruto U_U
 

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It's definitely Sasuke. He was always the superior one, which only changed when Naruto obtained his Kyuubi Chakra Modo, if not his Bijuu Modo. But the last word is not spoken, yet.

- Naruto already admitted inferiority.

- Naruto has no known counter to Amaterasu or Sasuke's Genjutsu apart from Ma & Pa.

- Naruto's toads will be controlled by Sasuke, ending up useless or even as a huge disadvantage.

- No known attack of Naruto can break a fully Susanoo.
 

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The same reason he knows that they're both going to die if they fight:shrug:.

Naruto must of Felt something or have some indication on how strong he was, or he wouldn't of said it.

But even so, you have yet given any valid argument on why Sm naruto beats Ms sasuke.



Kabuto dodged susanoo's arrow not amaterasu.

SM Naruto is stronger because why would Tobi stop the fight if he believed Sasuke could handle him because he knows Sasuke is no match for Naruto. Sasuke didn't deny that Naruto and him would both die because he knew Naruto would have killed him to protect konoha but would also commit sucide. He even said that Naruto was going to have to kill him which means he admits that Naruto is strong enough to win.
 

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BM naruto will rip apart EMS sasuke to pieces
do not try to underrate BM naruto U_U

The EMS Sasuke we have seen yet is nothing but a Sasuke with MS. When the EMS will grant him the perfect Susanoo, he will of course be equal to him ;).
 

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SM Naruto is stronger because why would Tobi stop the fight if he believed Sasuke could handle him because he knows Sasuke is no match for Naruto. Sasuke didn't deny that Naruto and him would both die because he knew Naruto would have killed him to protect konoha but would also commit sucide. He even said that Naruto was going to have to kill him which means he admits that Naruto is strong enough to win.

Tobi had so many reasons to stop the fight besides Sasuke going blind.

Sasuke didn't deny? like hell he did. :flaw:
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He never said Naruto was going to kill him.
 

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It's definitely Sasuke. He was always the superior one, which only changed when Naruto obtained his Kyuubi Chakra Modo, if not his Bijuu Modo. But the last word is not spoken, yet.

- Naruto already admitted inferiority.

- Naruto has no known counter to Amaterasu or Sasuke's Genjutsu apart from Ma & Pa.

- Naruto's toads will be controlled by Sasuke, ending up useless or even as a huge disadvantage.

- No known attack of Naruto can break a fully Susanoo.

Sm naruto can counter Genjutsu, Naruto has sensing power, he doesn't need to look at sasuke's eyes to fight.

SM Naruto is stronger because why would Tobi stop the fight if he believed Sasuke could handle him because he knows Sasuke is no match for Naruto. Sasuke didn't deny that Naruto and him would both die because he knew Naruto would have killed him to protect konoha but would also commit sucide. He even said that Naruto was going to have to kill him which means he admits that Naruto is strong enough to win.

You do know naruto was poisoned right?.

The poison would of taken effect befor the fight got serious, naruto was fronting it when speaking to sasuke.

You still havn't given any solid argument.
 

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I guess he would to it better with his Amaterasu, Blaze Release, Susanoo and Kirin. He spammed his MS techniques about ten minutes in order to kill Danzo.

It is clearly obvious that Sasuke was stronger than Naruto at that point, feat wise and according to Narutos own words. So this isn't debatable. Put SM Naruto together with Hebi Sasuke and his curse seal and we would have a fight, but not against the Mangekyou Sharingan.
meh I admitted that Ms Sasuke > or = Sm Naruto (by small margin) but no way can he beat the 6 paths of pain.

Shinra tensei|Animal summons|Preta path - Ameterasu

Susano- Chibaku tensei and the arrows will be absorbed by preta path..
 

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meh I admitted that Ms Sasuke > or = Sm Naruto (by small margin) but no way can he beat the 6 paths of pain.

Shinra tensei|Animal summons|Preta path - Ameterasu

Susano- Chibaku tensei and the arrows will be absorbed by preta path..

Never said that Sasuke beats Pain, though the difference between them would be close. Blaze Release Magatamas can one shot all summons and hit the most Pains at once. Susanoos force combined with the Blaze Release and Amaterasu is already enough to put Pain in an awkward situation. He would of course stand better chances against Pain than SM Naruto, because he is stronger than him.
 

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Tobi had so many reasons to stop the fight besides Sasuke going blind.

Sasuke didn't deny? like hell he did. :flaw:
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He never said Naruto was going to kill him.

You just admitted Naruto would have won since Sasuke was going blind just like you said. He also said your going to have to kill me which means he thinks Naruto is strong enough. Like im going to believe the guy who thinks he can kill everyone in the kage summit and solo konoha all on his own.

Sm naruto can counter Genjutsu, Naruto has sensing power, he doesn't need to look at sasuke's eyes to fight.



You do know naruto was poisoned right?.

The poison would of taken effect befor the fight got serious, naruto was fronting it when speaking to sasuke.

You still havn't given any solid argument.

Sasuke would be blind by then. It took a while for the poison to affect him Sasuke was in a much worse state.
 

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Sm naruto can counter Genjutsu, Naruto has sensing power, he doesn't need to look at sasuke's eyes to fight.
But sensing cannot entirely replace one's sight. Makes it also harder to see Amaterasu coming. That advantage does also only count as long as Naruto's Sennin Modo is active. But true, it's a solid defence against Genjutsu.
 

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SM Naruto > MS Sasuke. Deal with it Sasuke fanboys.
 
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