Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Destroys Susanoo

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You used the term to be disrespectful and it was clearly obvious.


Even if I used it to be disrespectful, which I was not, I was merely pointing out that you were a fanboy because you were pulling out all the stops to make sure that what I said was incorrect, Rinnegan, legendery weps... I mean really?

Also, I reread what you said, yes the Yata mirror would prevent the destruction of the caster, sorry I must have missed what you were trying to say their.


Your bold statement is correct, however it took Gaara, Mei and Oonoki working together to get a hit on Madara in between deactivating Susano'o and trying to activate Preta path, and even HE was surprised that he hadnt activated it in time IMO one jutsu on it's own like this wouldnt be enough to catch a sharingan user off-guard. but still your bold is right.

And you gotta understand that when Kishi has stated a fact (not a numeral statistic, but a fact written in black and white) like "It blocks/nullifies all attacks it makes contact with" you just have to accept it as fact, nothing has ever absorbed or broken the Yata Mirror, so there is no reason to believe otherwise anyway, do you get my meaning?

I am not saying it would cause damage to anything behind the mirror, but the shark would absorb the chakra of the susanoo when it engulfs it.
 

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Even if I used it to be disrespectful, which I was not, I was merely pointing out that you were a fanboy because you were pulling out all the stops to make sure that what I said was incorrect, Rinnegan, legendery weps... I mean really?

So because I wanted to prove a point I was a fanboy? Wow! Then a lot of people on this site and in this world are fanboys.

Also, I reread what you said, yes the Yata mirror would prevent the destruction of the caster, sorry I must have missed what you were trying to say their.

Glad you understand :D
 

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So because I wanted to prove a point I was a fanboy? Wow! Then a lot of people on this site and in this world are fanboys.


The thread was Shark bullet destroys susanoo.

You said madara can use preta path, which would destroy his own suanoo.

and that Itachi would use Yata mirror, which would not prevent the absorption of Susanoo.

What you did was use a straw man on me, and I fell for it, I hold my hands up, you made it about destroying the caster not the susanoo.

The fact that you used such a method makes you a fanboy, there was no need to I was right I was right, you created another argument in which if I attacked it I would be wrong.

You did this to give the impression that my initial argument was irrelevant, why did you do this? I have no idea.

The fact is Yata mirror will keep Itachi alive, but he can't use susanoo while in the mouth of the shark, and while in their Kisame can attack.

Have we ever seen Itachi use Yata mirror while not in susanoo?
 

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Even if I used it to be disrespectful, which I was not, I was merely pointing out that you were a fanboy because you were pulling out all the stops to make sure that what I said was incorrect, Rinnegan, legendery weps... I mean really?

Also, I reread what you said, yes the Yata mirror would prevent the destruction of the caster, sorry I must have missed what you were trying to say their.




I am not saying it would cause damage to anything behind the mirror, but the shark would absorb the chakra of the susanoo when it engulfs it.

See the only problem with that there is that the Susano'o itself IS behind the Yata Mirror, as it takes the form of an ethereal warrior it holds the shield in a position that a soldier guards HIMSELF (and by default, the MS user standing in his center.)

^ This is why we don't ever see Itachi's full form susano'o taking damage and i suppose also why he had to be shown using his semi-formed one later in the series with Sasuke so he isnt invincible all the time (I dont know how much more chakra the full formed takes, but Itachi was an edo tensei so it shouldnt matter.)
 

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The thread was Shark bullet destroys susanoo.

You said madara can use preta path, which would destroy his own suanoo.

and that Itachi would use Yata mirror, which would not prevent the absorption of Susanoo.

What you did was use a straw man on me, and I fell for it, I hold my hands up, you made it about destroying the caster not the susanoo.

Actually you made it about that. I simply said that the user can simply manifest another susanoo and then you countered with the shark bullet would still destroy the user. I then countered with telling you that most susanoo users would still have another counter for it, so you were the one who brought that up, not me.

The fact that you used such a method makes you a fanboy, there was no need to I was right I was right, you created another argument in which if I attacked it I would be wrong.

Lol no it doesn't because I'm not the one who brought the subject up in the first place, that was you.

And who are you to say what makes and what doesn't make somebody a fanboy?


You did this to give the impression that my initial argument was irrelevant, why did you do this? I have no idea.

*Sigh* read above.

The fact is Yata mirror will keep Itachi alive, but he can't use susanoo while in the mouth of the shark, and while in their Kisame can attack.


Have we ever seen Itachi use Yata mirror while not in susanoo?

Ummm yata mirror would block the shark bullet before it ever has the chance to destroy Itachi's susanoo since it's the most forefront thing on Itachi's susanoo, so the first thing the shark bullet will encounter will be the yata mirror and thus won't get through.
 

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Maybe you need to read up on Great Shark Bullet, Chidori would not work.

I am talking about susanoo and you bring in a legendary weapon and the most powerful dojutsu of the series, like those things are the birth right of the uchiha, you are a true fan boy of the highest order.

Yata mirror blocking chakra absorption....right lol.

Even going by the data book description of yata mirror, which usually exaggerates stats, would still not allow yata mirror to work in this scenario.

Yata Mirror isnt made of chakra, its an items therefore Shark bullet wouldnt work
 

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Actually you made it about that. I simply said that the user can simply manifest another susanoo and then you countered with the shark bullet would still destroy the user. I then countered with telling you that most susanoo users would still have another counter for it, so you were the one who brought that up, not me.



Lol no it doesn't because I'm not the one who brought the subject up in the first place, that was you.

And who are you to say what makes and what doesn't make somebody a fanboy?




*Sigh* read above.



Ummm yata mirror would block the shark bullet before it ever has the chance to destroy Itachi's susanoo since it's the most forefront thing on Itachi's susanoo, so the first thing the shark bullet will encounter will be the yata mirror and thus won't get through.


Shark bullet will engulf the Susanoo and drain it's chakra.

Know you did, you said the caster can just make another susanoo, when that had nothing to do with the thread.

The caster can always make another susanoo but how many times?

The shark bullet will constantly be devouring it, and Kisames suction would make the meal a very short one.


Once again, have we seen Itachi use the shield outside of Susanoo.


Yata Mirror isnt made of chakra, its an items therefore Shark bullet wouldnt work


The shark bullet just destroys the susanoo, the mirror and possibly the wielder would be left.

See another straw man, the thread is not about Yata mirror but susanoo.

Btw, Amaterasu is meant to be as hot as the sun, let's get real people if it was using it once would end the world, and would melt the users face.

Some of the data book description are not literal like that, they are like telling the tale of legendary ninjutsu.
 
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Shark bullet will engulf the Susanoo and drain it's chakra.

Know you did, you said the caster can just make another susanoo, when that had nothing to do with the thread.

And I never denied that you were wrong in saying that the shark bullet would destroy susanoo, in fact, I actually said you were theoretically right.

I initally thought you were saying that once the shark bullet was used to destroy susanoo that the user wouldn't be able to summon it once again and thus my statemetn about the user being able to simply manifest another susanoo.

The caster can always make another susanoo but how many times?

As long as the user has the necessary chakra to use it.

The shark bullet will constantly be devouring it, and Kisames suction would make the meal a very short one.

The jutsu isn't a continuation jutsu where it just keeps going and going. Once it passes through the opponent the jutsu ends.


Once again, have we seen Itachi use the shield outside of Susanoo.

Did you not read my previous post? He doesn't have to because as I said his yata mirror is at the forefront of his susanoo, which means the yata mirror will be the first thing the shark bullet encounters when going after the user and thus it will be blocked, which means Itachi's susanoo is perfectly fine because Kisame's shark bullet never has the chance to get to it.
 

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1.The jutsu isn't a continuation jutsu where it just keeps going and going. Once it passes through the opponent the jutsu ends.




2.Did you not read my previous post? He doesn't have to because as I said his yata mirror is at the forefront of his susanoo, which means the yata mirror will be the first thing the shark bullet encounters when going after the user and thus it will be blocked, which means Itachi's susanoo is perfectly fine because Kisame's shark bullet never has the chance to get to it.



You are doing that thing again dude, where did it say that once the opponent is inside shark bullet their chakra no longer get's absorbed?


The shark bullet, I think there was a scan uploaded on here is huge, even by non perfect susanoo standards, the shark will swallow the susanoo and the shield.

It's not an attack like Kirin, or Rasenshuriken or Katon, it can eat it's target as it tried to do to Guy when it was just a Shark bullet not great shark bullet.
 

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You are doing that thing again dude, where did it say that once the opponent is inside shark bullet their chakra no longer get's absorbed?

Possibly, but only because I just thought to myself that susanoo is chakra and one still needs great force to break through it, but it's also called an ethereal being, which is something Kisame's shark bullet isn't. There isn't enough proof to say it can though because it has NEVER done this.

The shark bullet, I think there was a scan uploaded on here is huge, even by non perfect susanoo standards, the shark will swallow the susanoo and the shield.

The susanoo perhaps, but not yata mirror because as the databook states it changes it's chakra to negate attacks and thus the shark bullent won't get through.

The shark bullet will NEVER get to absorb Itachi's susanoo though because like I said the yata mirror is at the forefront of his susanoo and will be the first thing the shark bullet encounters, which means the shark bullet will be completely negated before it ever gets the chance to absorb Itachi's susanoo.

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The shield does exactly what it's supposed to do and that's defend what's behind it and the body of susanoo and Itachi are the ones behind it.

It's not an attack like Kirin, or Rasenshuriken or Katon, it can eat it's target as it tried to do to Guy when it was just a Shark bullet not great shark bullet.

Like I said possibly.
 
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sasuke would amaterasu it. and it would prolly evaporate anyway if it get too close to sasukes amaterasu ball
 

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Possibly, but only because I just thought to myself that susanoo is chakra and one still needs great force to break through it, but it's also called an ethereal being, which is something Kisame's shark bullet isn't. There isn't enough proof to say it can though because it has NEVER done this.



The susanoo perhaps, but not yata mirror because as the databook states it changes it's chakra to negate attacks and thus the shark bullent won't get through.

The shark bullet will NEVER get to absorb Itachi's susanoo though because like I said the yata mirror is at the forefront of his susanoo and will be the first thing the shark bullet encounters, which means the shark bullet will be completely negated before it ever gets the chance to absorb Itachi's susanoo.

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The shield does exactly what it's supposed to do and that's defend what's behind it and the body of susanoo and Itachi are the ones behind it.



Like I said possibly.


Well if we are including legendary weps, Itashi's Totsuka sword puts Kisame in a Genjutsu before the Susanoo is even touched.:noc:

Anyway, I was just talking about Susanoo, legendary weps are legendary for a reason, I did not think anyone would bring it in here but there you go, this is NB.
 

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Shark bullet will engulf the Susanoo and drain it's chakra.

Know you did, you said the caster can just make another susanoo, when that had nothing to do with the thread.

The caster can always make another susanoo but how many times?

The shark bullet will constantly be devouring it, and Kisames suction would make the meal a very short one.


Once again, have we seen Itachi use the shield outside of Susanoo.





The shark bullet just destroys the susanoo, the mirror and possibly the wielder would be left.

See another straw man, the thread is not about Yata mirror but susanoo.

Btw, Amaterasu is meant to be as hot as the sun, let's get real people if it was using it once would end the world, and would melt the users face.

Some of the data book description are not literal like that, they are like telling the tale of legendary ninjutsu.


Ok it would probaly destroy itt, if a certain Susanoo didnt have Yata Mirror
but it does

So Sasuke and maybe Madaras susanoo woulkd get destroyed
 

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Well if we are including legendary weps, Itashi's Totsuka sword puts Kisame in a Genjutsu before the Susanoo is even touched.:noc:

Anyway, I was just talking about Susanoo, legendary weps are legendary for a reason, I did not think anyone would bring it in here but there you go, this is NB.

Well I'm not the one who brought up the subject of the shark bullet still destroying the user even after the user casts another susanoo, that was you.

That's how the legendary weapons came into play. I just stated who could block it(before and after susanoo being destroyed) and explained why. And I don't see why it matters if they're brought up or not. They're part of Itachi's arsenal just as the rinnegan is for Madara.

Anyway peace :D
 
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Well I'm not the one who brought up the subject of the shark bullet still destroying the user even after the user casts another susanoo, that was you.

That's how the legendary weapons came into play. I just stated who could block it(before and after susanoo being destroyed) and explained why. And I don't see why it matters if they're brought up or not. They're part of Itachi's arsenal just as the rinnegan is for Madara.

Anyway peace :D

Sasuke could through explosive kunai at kisame to >.>

Anyway peace out. :cool:
 

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B2:Even if damage is blocked susanoo will still be absorbed, also Yata mirror changes it chakra nature to nullify the Ninjutsu, Great Shark bullet has no chakra nature weakness.
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Ahem. "Water Release: Great Shark Bullet".
 

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It is special because it absorbs all chakra.

And totsuka blade is special cos it nullifies all elemental attacks. Shark release just happens to be one of them. And Totsuka blade isnt chakra btw. It is an ethereal object. It cant be absorbed.
 

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And totsuka blade is special cos it nullifies all elemental attacks. Shark release just happens to be one of them. And Totsuka blade isnt chakra btw. It is an ethereal object. It cant be absorbed.

You're not trolling at the top of your game today man, I spotted it too early.
 
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