Samehada Vs Susanoo

[Microsword57]

To start i would like to say that this forum is not in the wrong place because it's ment for the debate on do you think Samehada can absorb a Susanoo that is not that "Perfect" Susanoo.

I want prepare for the actual importance of this thread by saying Samehada without being fused with Kisame can not absorb a "Perfect" Susanoo.
It was said that the Perfect Susanoo Rivals the Power of a Bijuu.​

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It is up to you of which Bijuu level it Rivals but if you are like me you would assume 9 tails, if anything lower i would not see why the kages would be frightened seeing as A,Raikage has gone toe to toe and with the 8 tails his brother and Gaara who is the former 1 tails and understands the power of that level. If you do not agree that the "Perfect" Susanoo Rivals the Power of the Nine Tailes or at least the 8 tails than this forum will not mean anything to you.

During the Battle between Killer Bee and Kisame it was shown that the Samehada without the fusion of Kisame could not absorb more than 6 tails at once.​

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The man in this scan came to this conclusion after seeing Samehada Attack when bee used 8 tails and once Samehada made contact he was left with 2.

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Manga 471, Page 2
Before, 8 Tails

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Manga 471, Page 4
After, 2 Tails[/IMG]

Now since the "Perfect" Susanoo Rivals the 9Tails or 8 Tails, the main question of this thread is; Do you think that Sasuke's form of Susanoo could be absorbed by Samehada considering the fact that it's not the full Susanoo body but has most of the Susanoo body being covered?​

This is how i see the Tails and Susanoo Correspond:

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1 Tail

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Ribcage/EMS

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EMS

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Now there has been some talk that EMS causes Susanoo to be used with minimum drainage therefore if a EMS Susanoo user is putting fore as much chakra has he once did in MS form hes actually putting in more charkra then necessary meaning that could be an add chakra or that Susanoo ribcage defense is increased with the added EMS. So if you don't agree that the ribcage could equal a separate tail than the Skeleton which i also find abit Farfetched maybe you will agree that EMS could be an added tail.

2 Tails

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Full Skeleton

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3 Tails

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Muscles

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You can see the Muscles wrap around the Skeleton

4 Tails

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Skin

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5 Tails

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Upper Half

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6 Tails

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Lower Half

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7 Tails

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Armor

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8 Tails

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Size

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9 Tails

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Stabilization

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Now I think that many of you will agree that the "Perfect" Susanoo has way more than enough size for the job of not being absorbed by Samehada but do you think that This form has enough Size?:

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Sasuke Susanoo has 7 of the features needed to become complete and based of this analysis Samehada's Limit is 6. The 6 features are Ribcage/EMS, Skeleton, Muscle, Skin, Upper Half and Armor. So if it's Agree that this Susanoo has enough Size, then Samehada without Fusion would not be able to Absorb it fully, but im asking you guys. Do You think it has enough Size?
Why I Think it Does:

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I would say so because Samehada when Absorbing the Grand Fireball it did not absorb it all:

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And i believe it was because the Grand Fireball possessed the necessary size to not be full absorbed. Unlike the Cloak form that Killer used which is Centimeters from the skin. The slash on the Fireball showed that it did not touch as much of the fireball as it absorbed and the space between how much was absorbed and the blade is easily thicker than the cloak of on top of Killer bee's skin because as you can see the Space between the blade and how much was absorbed is shown on the page to be thicker than Bee's body with some extra.

Thanks For Reading and Sharing Your Thoughts!

 

[asad70ful]

yup sameheda can absorb susanoo,coz susanoo is pure chakra around its user,so i think it can absorbs sunsanoo
as for perfect susanoo i think u r right sameheda needs fusion with kisame,
but i think fusion with bee will not be effective
and +rep for ur effort

 

[Microsword57]

yup sameheda can absorb susanoo,coz susanoo is pure chakra around its user,so i think it can absorbs sunsanoo
as for perfect susanoo i think u r right sameheda needs fusion with kisame,
but i think fusion with bee will not be effective
and +rep for ur effort

Thanks and Thanks again for sharing your thoughts...

 

[Champ]

Samehade don't like fire so im sure Amaterasu will torch him

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

dude nice you brong some new ideas in my head i think SO6P have something like sussano but had the power to par with 10 tails but sasuke will need 2 more upgrades IMO for 9 tails tho or they are equal right now but what levels was itachibut going against a bijuu with that will be risky it drains there chakara ALOT and bijuus have like unlimited

 

[Prime Rib]

susanoo easy

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Samehade don't like fire so im sure Amaterasu will torch him[/

the person wielding it would dodge it

 

[wridacule]

Samehade don't like fire so im sure Amaterasu will torch him[/

the person wielding it would dodge it

theyd both be burned to a crisp i think....
question for the op: its like 230 in the morn here so i didnt read the whole thing but whos susano'o are we talking about? because if its itachis wouldnt the yata mirror just push samehada back?

 

[Microsword57]

dude nice you brong some new ideas in my head i think SO6P have something like sussano but had the power to par with 10 tails but sasuke will need 2 more upgrades IMO for 9 tails tho or they are equal right now but what levels was itachibut going against a bijuu with that will be risky it drains there chakara ALOT and bijuus have like unlimited

Yeah i like your theory, and about Sasuke needing 2 more upgrades for 9tails helps to show you agree with me that much more because i put in the forum that sasuke has 7 of the 9 features of Susanoo. you get it? Madara on the other hand has the full 9 Features which is why his power rivals a bijuu and why Kyuubi was so frightened by his name.

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Yeah i like your theory, and about Sasuke needing 2 more upgrades for 9tails helps to show you agree with me that much more because i put in the forum that sasuke has 7 of the 9 features of Susanoo. you get it? Madara on the other hand has the full 9 Features which is why his power rivals a bijuu and why Kyuubi was so frightened by his name.

yeah but i think now naruto will get 10 tails and sas will get rin for some new susanoo because tobi is on the move to revivem

 

[Microsword57]

theyd both be burned to a crisp i think....
question for the op: its like 230 in the morn here so i didnt read the whole thing but whos susano'o are we talking about? because if its itachis wouldnt the yata mirror just push samehada back?

O im talking about Sasuke and to sum up what i was saying is that in one of the scans i posted where bee was fighting Kisame it was said Samehada could only absorb 6 tails, then i used i compared Susanoo to the Bijuus.
Tails Susanoo
1 Ribcage/EMS
2 Skeleton
3 Muscles
4 Skin
5 Upper Half
6 Lower Half
7 Armor
8 Skin
9 Stabilization

I made that connection between Susanoo and the Tails of a Bijuu.
Sasuke's Susanoo has 6 of the Features
Ribcage/EMS,Skeleton,Muscle,Skin,Upper Half and Armor. I spoke on how The Perfect Susanoo is Clearly has all the features along with the Size,8 tail to not be absorb.

The thread question was do you think that the Susanoo Sasuke possesses has enough Size to not be absorbed since it is thicker than the Cloak of a Bijuu and is Large compared to a Person. Not Perfect susanoo large but very large. IF you look at any picture with the Full Susanoo and Sasuke.

 

[Champ]

Samehade don't like fire so im sure Amaterasu will torch him[/

the person wielding it would dodge it

Explain how they can dodge Amaterasu plz since it's so easy

 

[gordo1]

This is a really interesting thread, I'll read it sober tomorrow!

 

[Chode]

are you saying tails of susanoo are like the tails of bees cloak?

 

[wridacule]

This is a really interesting thread, I'll read it sober tomorrow!

lol! this^ OT: i think IF someone holding it could get close enough they MIGHT have a chance of absorbing it BUT i think that point is moot.... entons would burn whoever is using it to a crisp. you kind of get the impression that samehada is pretty heavy so unless its raikage using v2 or someone with that kind of speed i dont think they would be fast enough to get that close

 

[Microsword57]

are you saying tails of susanoo are like the tails of bees cloak?

No, im saying that Susanoo has 9 Steps til Completion just like the 9 Tails. Samehada can absorb 6 steps of Completion, and Sasuke Susanoo has 6 steps of Completion. I want to know if you will agree with me that Sasuke Susanoo has enough of the 8th step toward completion being "Size" to not be fully absorbed by the Samehada. My Theory is that If Sasuke's Susanoo was it its full that we have seen than Samehada attempting to Absorb the whole Susanoo would Stop at the First Step meaning it would bring sasuke back to the Susanoo Ribcage the same way it took bee from his 8 tails back to his 2 tails.

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

Explain how they can dodge Amaterasu plz since it's so easy

you just do rofl like A did like a boss sas amat can follow but people above average speed can dodge it

 

[rakwan uzamaki]

hold up tho so version 1 sussano rib cant fight 1st tail i dont think so because his sand can easy slip through it and i cant think it can handle a TBB i think it cant be equal but be near to defend thereself

 

[Champ]

you just do rofl like A did like a boss sas amat can follow but people above average speed can dodge it

First you say like A then you say average speed can dodge it, well A doesn't have average speed in a foot race only Naruto would beat him. No average person can dodge Amaterasu

 

[narutogrg]

good thread dude. i also think that samaheda can absorb susano