Madara Uchiha vs. Nagato

[MasterMJG]

Who wins guys? Both edo

 

[Memoria]

Edo Madara is completed beyond his prime, so he takes this.

 

[Prince Charles]

edo madara ofc. no explanation is needed.

 

[TheSages456]

draw. madara severely outclasses nagato but cant seal him. nagato has a way to beat madara but cant touch him. take away edo and madara takes this low difficulty.

 

[Prince Charles]

draw. madara severely outclasses nagato but cant seal him. nagato has a way to beat madara but cant touch him. take away edo and madara takes this low difficulty.

seriously the strongest uciha in existence not having a sealing jutsu.

 

[Memoria]

draw. madara severely outclasses nagato but cant seal him. nagato has a way to beat madara but cant touch him. take away edo and madara takes this low difficulty.

If you take out Edo Tensei then take out Kabuto's other enhancements that made him completed beyond his prime, he wouldn't be as powerful as you think.

 

[TheSages456]

seriously the strongest uciha in existence not having a sealing jutsu.

madara not having a sealing jutsu is highly unlikely but so far he hasnt shown one.

If you take out Edo Tensei then take out Kabuto's other enhancements that made him completed beyond his prime, he wouldn't be as powerful as you think.

he still has his perfect susano which destroys mountain ranges with casual sword swings and rinnegan.

 

[Prince Charles]

madara not having a sealing jutsu is highly unlikely but so far he hasnt shown one.


he still has his perfect susano which destroys mountain ranges with casual sword swings and rinnegan.

just because he hasnt shown one doesnt mean he doesnt have it. he had a way to counter the release of edo tensei didnt he?

sometimes you have to use common sense, a character shouldnt have to show you something that is kind of obvious he or she should and already have.

even gaara and killer bee have a sealing jutsu.

the strongest uciha in the world not have 1 single sealing jutsu sounds a bit silly dont you think?

 

[-Madara Uchiha-]

Madara takes this

 

[TheSages456]

just because he hasnt shown one doesnt mean he doesnt have it. he had a way to counter the release of edo tensei didnt he?

sometimes you have to use common sense, a character shouldnt have to show you something that is kind of obvious he or she should and already have.

even gaara and killer bee have a sealing jutsu.

the strongest uciha in the world not have 1 single sealing jutsu sounds a bit silly dont you think?

yeah i guess he has one. he should at least have some generic sealing techs.

 

[Memoria]

madara not having a sealing jutsu is highly unlikely but so far he hasnt shown one.


he still has his perfect susano which destroys mountain ranges with casual sword swings and rinnegan.

So a Rinnegan that he awakened shortly before his death actually counts? He died right after he awakened it, so if you want to give alive Madara Rinnegan in vs threads you should as well make him near death, he can't be alive and healthy with Rinnegan, he awakened it near his death, you should understand that.

 

[TheSages456]

So a Rinnegan that he awakened shortly before his death actually counts? He died right after he awakened it, so if you want to give alive Madara Rinnegan in vs threads you should as well make him near death, he can't be alive and healthy with Rinnegan, he awakened it near his death, you should understand that.

madara didnt die right after he got the rinnegan. he lived long enough to test out and use the techs he is familiar with like preta path and the meteor. he died shortly after gaining it but not 5 seconds after.

 

[Prince Charles]

madara didnt die right after he got the rinnegan. he lived long enough to test out and use the techs he are familiar with like preta path and the meteor. he died shortly after gaining it but not 5 seconds after.

+rep. your right about that part.

 

[TheSages456]

+rep. your right about that part.

thanks for the rep

 

[Memoria]

madara didnt die right after he got the rinnegan. he lived long enough to test out and use the techs he are familiar with like preta path and the meteor. he died shortly after gaining it but not 5 seconds after.

What tells you that, was it stated in the manga or.....?
I get what you mean, but you can't assume anything, he said that he awakened it shortly before his death, shortly is the key word here, why did he die shortly after he awakened the Rinnegan? he must've been sick or real old, in a vs thread if you want to give Madara the Rinnegan you should consider those facts; he didn't awaken it at his prime, so his stamina/strengh/speed can't be the same as prime EMS Madara's.

In general: EMS Madara = Prime Madara who had great stamina/strengh and possibly speed. Rinnegan Madara = Old/Sick Madara who had less stamina/strengh/speed, died shortly after awakening it.

 

[Prince Charles]

thanks for the rep

no prob u shud actually have a ton more i see your posts in debates and other threads your really good.

 

[TheSages456]

What tells you that, was it stated in the manga or.....?
I get what you mean, but you can't assume anything, he said that he awakened it shortly before his death, shortly is the key word here, why did he die shortly after he awakened the Rinnegan? he must've been sick or real old, in a vs thread if you want to give Madara the Rinnegan you should consider those facts; he didn't awaken it at his prime, so his stamina/strengh/speed can't be the same as prime EMS Madara's.

In general: EMS Madara = Prime Madara who had great stamina/strengh and possibly speed. Rinnegan Madara = Old/Sick Madara who had less stamina/strengh/speed, died shortly after awakening it.

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madara hit his prime when he attained the rinnegan. nobody knew about rinnegan madara. thats why madara asked if kabuto knew about his prime.

 

[Memoria]

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madara hit his prime when he attained the rinnegan. nobody knew about rinnegan madara. thats why madara asked if kabuto knew about his prime.

That doesn't make an sense, neither of them said anything about the Rinnegan, he said that he completed him beyond his prime, that doesn't have anything to do with the Rinnegan. When he talked about his prime he meant the time when he was the leader of the Uchiha and when he was called a legend, and guess what? when Kabuto asked him to show it to him, "The legendary power of the Uchiha", did you see Madara use the Rinnegan? he only used a Fire style technique and then started showing off his Taijutsu skills, that much proves you wrong about the "madara hit his prime when he attained the rinnegan" part.

 

[TheSages456]

That doesn't make an sense, neither of them said anything about the Rinnegan, he said that he completed him beyond his prime, that doesn't have anything to do with the Rinnegan. When he talked about his prime he meant the time when he was the leader of the Uchiha and when he was called a legend, and guess what? when Kabuto asked him to show it to him, "The legendary power of the Uchiha", did you see Madara use the Rinnegan? he only used a Fire style technique and then started showing off his Taijutsu skills, that much proves you wrong about the "madara hit his prime when he attained the rinnegan" part.

what are you talking about? everyone knew about ems madara. why would madara question kabuto about his prime is his prime was his ems. how does madara not using the rinnegan 5 seconds into the fight prove anything?

 

[Invsblphntm]

what are you talking about? everyone knew about ems madara. why would madara question kabuto about his prime is his prime was his ems. how does madara not using the rinnegan 5 seconds into the fight prove anything?

The prime of Madara does NOT consist of the Rinnegan, lol. I don't even see how you're even trying to argue this. Sasuke never used the MS, yet he knew Amaterasu right off the bat. If Madara had time to practice the Rinnegan don't you think he'd be using the Deva Path abilities or something like that? I'm sure a CT would've been better to use than a ****ing Katon tech.

Nagato > EMS Madara, even with his oh-so-godly Perfect Susano'o.