doesn't sasuke already have an upper hand than naruto and doesn't need upgrade

[Champ]

Sasuke hasn't shown me anything yet, for me to believe he can beat current Naruto

 

[gazmatic]

This will be my last post to this thread. Danzo. Is danzo a perfect jin? If you argue that sasuke has tsukiyomi then my answer is danzo. Again. You keep harping blaze or black fire but you cant mention any high level ninja defeated by black fire. Sasuke does not have the chakra to spam anything. While naruto has his own chakra, bijuu chakra and sage mode. Sasuke hasn't single handedly defeated any high level ninja. Who has naruto defeated? Sasuke died twice with backup against 1 I repeat ONE bijuu. Naruto defended against 5 fully formed jinchu and their top attack. If you cant reconcile with that then................... So be it

 

[TheSages456]

I'm sure TBB wouldn't just destroy Susanoo but Sasuke along with it...

okay

 

[Naruto9001]

itachi's and madara sword has been getting stronger than there incomplete versions in different ways have you not seen this.

look it up in wiki

Show a manga scan of a incomplete susano ever doing that. And the wiki dosen't say that.

 

[TheSages456]

Show a manga scan of a incomplete susano ever doing that. And the wiki dosen't say that.

madaras perfect susanos sword>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>madaras incomplete susanos sword.

 

[MickNerks]

sasuke has blaze release to manipulate his flames and to protect himself so all those clones will die if they touched him.

they dont have to touch him. They can spam planetary rasengan or mini rasenshuriken or regular rasenshuriken and just attack with chakra arms.. and do you know how much chakra it will take from susuke to continously manipulate flames and to keep susanoo up, smh..

 

[Uchiha Leader]

ok Let me Show You how much dumb you are :

1. Naruto is a Perfect Jinchuriki (Perfect jin means full control over bijuu that Naruto already have)
2. What does it needs to break gen-jutsu? (kurama & Naruto are friends now. He will not let gen-jutsu be used on Naruto)
3. I Can see how much blind you are when you see sasukes blaze release but ignore Narutos chakra arms.
4. Unlike Human body chakra arms cant get burned by amaterasu.
Nagato launched surprise attack on Naruto when Naruto blocked it with ease in km and itachi was shocked he said "Naruto you take care of sasuke now"
5. OK tell me how can sasuke even touch Naruto ? Or does sasuke have infinate chakra to activate susanoo for whole day ?
6. Naruto TBB cannot be counter by Sasuke.
7. Naruto can do SM and KM at the same time. And dont tell me Sasukes susanoo have chance against 50+ RS.
8. Edo madara needed to use Rinnegan to block RS. If susasano was strong enough why he used RG ?

1.naruto doesn't have a full complete bond with the nine tails here it is even on wiki "the link between Naruto and Kurama, with Kurama noting that they could only keep the form for five minutes during their first transformation due to the fact that they had not yet developed a perfect bond."
2. in order for naruto to break a genjutsu he needs to be a perfect jinchuriki which he isn't since he does not have the bond
3.naruto arm are just manifested arms just like susanno they are physical how can naruto grab something do you want to know it is because they are physical so that means naruto chakra arms can be hit so amerterasu will burn them.
4.the chakra arms are manifested chakra do you really belief that the chakra arms are not physical but yet they can attack you and hold you.
5. the eternal mangekyou sharingan can maintain susanno for a long time and not even give the strains like the mangekyou sharingan did but you can still bleed but there is barelly any strain form what we have seen so far.
6.it takes time for you to make a ratio from the tailed beast ball and sasuke can just use amerterasu to get naruto before he launches the tailied beast ball.
7.sasuke susanno can easily cut threw things in it's incomplete form now his eternal mangekyou sharingan complete form can cut threw a chakra mode naruto it is possible.
8.why wouldn't you want to use the preta path it is easier than getting hit than getting expose to get sealed.

Sasuke hasn't shown me anything yet, for me to believe he can beat current Naruto

This will be my last post to this thread. Danzo. Is danzo a perfect jin? If you argue that sasuke has tsukiyomi then my answer is danzo. Again. You keep harping blaze or black fire but you cant mention any high level ninja defeated by black fire. Sasuke does not have the chakra to spam anything. While naruto has his own chakra, bijuu chakra and sage mode. Sasuke hasn't single handedly defeated any high level ninja. Who has naruto defeated? Sasuke died twice with backup against 1 I repeat ONE bijuu. Naruto defended against 5 fully formed jinchu and their top attack. If you cant reconcile with that then................... So be it

danzo has a sharingan did you not know that and he actually has shishu mangekyou sharingan and the sharingan can fight back in genjutsu, there actually laws for genjutsu to be broken you can look it up.

bee was going to die but let 7/8 of hid full beast transformation be captured so that he can survive amerterasu and he had to recover his chakra, the raikage would have died also but gaara saved him and he choped of his arm so he was safe if the raikage would have landed on sasuke he would have been dead since his whole body would have been caught.

are you serious how many times was naruto going to die against nagato and other characters but anyways sasuke defeated orochimaru who was a highly skilled ninja, who also defeated danzo, and took on the 5 kages.


the fact is that he didn't want to kill bee he was afraid but then when it got to a point where he knew bee would have an advantage in his full tailed beast for he used amerterasu and bee had to escape and run away because he would have been captured okay.

sasuke is not weak and you act as if naruto never had help against other top ninja.

Show a manga scan of a incomplete susano ever doing that. And the wiki dosen't say that.

go look it up the sword evolves also,

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madaras perfect susanos sword>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>madaras incomplete susanos sword.

thank you

they dont have to touch him. They can spam planetary rasengan or mini rasenshuriken or regular rasenshuriken and just attack with chakra arms.. and do you know how much chakra it will take from susuke to continously manipulate flames and to keep susanoo up, smh..

yes and if they want to do a wide open attack like that sasuke can easily use blaze release on them with his blaze release magatama.

 

[takiyacrowz]

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[AfroJutsu]

All these things are taxing on sasuke plus kurama can just tap naruto out a genjutsu, the chakra cloak acts as a protective cover doesn't it? So ameratsu doesnt work right? And didn't madara even say the power of a bijuu is needed to fight his perfect sussanoo- the demon sussanoo, which sasuke doesn't even have, c'mon now look and itachi& sasuke vs kabuto even they had a hard time, naruto n kurama are cool with each other look at tobi n naruto fight fool, stop **** riding a fictional character. Peace.

 

[AfroJutsu]

Oh n also sasuke had a hard time against a kages whereas naruto beat dead edit tenses revived kages with his clones( while he was all super saiyan)

 

[Ndias17]

naruto is a jinchuriki so yes he is going to have immense strength and gain the attributes but naruto only has half and he was only able to accomplish a bijuu chakra mode version.

naruto may be strong but how can he protect him self from sasuke.

sasuke has an advantage with blaze release and his eternal mangekyou sharingan.

sasuke sword can easily cut pillars with a incomplete susanno and also cut wood release and it has even been furthered to upgraded when he obtained his eternal mangekyou sharingan he should be able to peirce naruto chakra tailed beast form.

the other thing is that if naruto actually tried to go in his full mass transformation head on with sasuke with his sage mode, sasuke can just use amerterasu or blaze release Magatama to hit the nine tails once used and the target is going to incinerate and the blaze release magatama version burns threw you faster.
so sasuke can possibly break threw naruto skin with his eternal mangekyou sword and with his arrow witch cut threw would release and is actually fast.
so in bijuu mode i think sasuke can actually have the advantage like when sasuke went up against bee when he was actually got to know his mangekyou powers and used amerterasu.

for the nine tail cloak naruto, the eternal mangekyou sharingan can still read naruto movements, naruto is only slightly faster than the 4th raikage that is all he just went ahead of him in speed now,Every time the sharingan gets an upgrade it gets faster at predicting your movements than before.
just like how sasuke when he was a kid in curse mark with a immature sharingan upgraded and saw the movements faster and when sasuke got his mangekyou he could actually see bee's movements but couldn't protect himself against bee special swords since it was too fast and how they were arranged.The curse mark sasuke would not even have time to even predict those movements but since his sharingan got upgraded he can so sasuke eternal mangekyou sharingan can see the raikage movements and also should see naruto's since madara ems can actually see onoki's light weighted raikage combos a times and the raikage and onoki speed is faster than naruto kage mode speed, the raikage is super light which makes it look like he teleported.

if sasuke takes on the cloak naruto he has options and can take naruto down with blaze release to use amerterasu to hit naruto or surround himself or use genjutsu and naruto won't escape genjutsu because naruto is not a perfect jinchuriki yet he still hasn't perfected his bond with kurama.

so yes naruto can fall victim to sasuke tsykuyomi which sasuke has itachi's eye naruto can't escape this unless he is like bee.

basically sasuke eternal mangekyou sharingan can see nine tail cloak naruto's and sasuke can use genjutsu since naruto is not a perfect jinchuriki and if naruto goes into bijuu mode sasuke can just use his susanno and use blaze release like Blaze Release Magatama to burn naruto fast or if naruto comes up to him sasuke can just manipulate the shape to make naruto touch amerterasu and naruto will burn until he is deafeated or get hit with susanno sword which could slice peirce naruto or even use genjutsu to capture naruto since naruto is not yet a perfect jinchuriki since he needs a perfect bond and he is no there yet and which is why his bijuu mode is 5 minutes.

so i don't think sasuke is really outmatch by naruto but will be close in a match.

totally agree with you.
And all this talk of a km clone beating sasuke needs to stop, i mean come on really youre going to downgrade sasuke that much by saying that he cant even handle the real naruto and that the clones are too much for him. the only reason the km clones defeated the people ressurrected by edo tensei was because they told naruto about their abilities and gave the clones warnings,also wen they dealt with the ressurrected kage the naruto clones had people like onoki and the 3rd raikages assistant to explain their powers in further detail. Heck if it wasnt for bee naruto would have never defeated the 3rd raikage. i think people just fall into the hype of naruto being a jinchuuriki and that makes him invincible. Do you people forget who beat the 1-7 tailed jinchuuriki, they consisted of itachi,nagato and deidara( 2 of them were killed by sasuke and nagato was beaten by itachi,naruto got powned by nagato and if it wasnt for hinata he would have died)on top of that all the jinchuuriki were perfect with the exception of gaara,so just because naruto is a jinchuuriki, perfect or not, doesnt make him invincible. To restate my point yes i believe that sasuke does have a chance of beating naruto and has a slimupper hand due towhat weve seen happen to previous junchuuriki being defeated

 

[BONTUL]

naruto spanks sasuke as of now
km clones are enough imo

Exactly.

 

[Pravin5]

1.naruto doesn't have a full complete bond with the nine tails here it is even on wiki "the link between Naruto and Kurama, with Kurama noting that they could only keep the form for five minutes during their first transformation due to the fact that they had not yet developed a perfect bond."

Ok Dude Do you even know What Does that Means ??? It means it not a Perfect Form of BM that Doesnt mean Genjutsu can effect Naruto. jand For your so dumb Brain I would like to tell you what does Actually PERFECT JINCHURIKI means " It means Having Full Control Over Tailed Beast " which Naruto have that makes him perfect JIn. get it Dumbasss

2. in order for naruto to break a genjutsu he needs to be a perfect jinchuriki which he isn't since he does not have the bond

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3.naruto arm are just manifested arms just like susanno they are physical how can naruto grab something do you want to know it is because they are physical so that means naruto chakra arms can be hit so amerterasu will burn them.

You are mr: Wiki Guy right ??? so here it is straight from wiki

This is an ability a jinchūriki is able to perform when in a tailed form. The jinchūriki will use the raw chakra of the their Tailed Beast to form arms, which they can freely manipulate to attack their foes, able to strike an opponent faster than even a Sharingan user can react to.[1] The chakra arms hands are clawed while the rest of the arm seems to lack any kind of joint, thus allowing them to have flexible movements that will generally be impossible for normal arms. The user can create any number of arms that they desire and they can also serve other purposes such as grappling hooks, to either grab onto objects or enemies from great distances, to offensive means, as merely touching one of these can cause fatal burns,


4.the chakra arms are manifested chakra do you really belief that the chakra arms are not physical but yet they can attack you and hold you.

Another Straight from wiki you will love it wiki guy :rofl:

In his Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, Naruto can use the chakra arms to a greater extent, as he can use and release chakra arms from anywhere on his body on a small or large scale. These arms even have the power to crush stone without Naruto putting much thought into it.[4] After some practice, he mastered the chakra arms, able to manipulate various stones and geometric shapes without crushing them.[5] Now he is able to use them in an attempt to create a new technique: the Tailed Beast Rasengan since he was advised by the Eight-Tails against the use of shadow clones in this form.[6] Naruto's mastery of the Tailed Beast Chakra Arms is so great that he is able to create several at once to launch attacks at several enemies, use them to pull enemies into the attack, and even create tiny ones around his finger. The arms also grant him a greater level of dexterity and manoeuvrability out of what would normally be a helpless situation,


5. the eternal mangekyou sharingan can maintain susanno for a long time and not even give the strains like the mangekyou sharingan did but you can still bleed but there is barelly any strain form what we have seen so far.

How much did sasuke used his EMS susanoo ???? only 1 battle against kabto and Itachi was the one who did all the work. again Can sasuke keep his susanoo activate against attacks like rasenshuriken for whole day ???? if you are saying yes then give me a proof or atleast a wiki proof :rofl:


6.it takes time for you to make a ratio from the tailed beast ball and sasuke can just use amerterasu to get naruto before he launches the tailied beast ball.

HAHAHAHA like Naruto is going to use it in the begining of the Fight to give a chance for sasuke to block it . and again he can use multiple SM clone at the same time with 5+ KM clone So how is gonna sasuke handle them I need a wiki proof ?

7.sasuke susanno can easily cut threw things in it's incomplete form now his eternal mangekyou sharingan complete form can cut threw a chakra mode naruto it is possible.


Any Proof or Fact or Something similar happened on the Manga ???? No you are just assuming. if i have to assume i can assume Naruto sasuke Meets and before Sasuke can even see Naruto. Naruto Takes a Kunai & Sasukes Head off his body. you can assume anything but without fact its useless.
in the end you are just a blind fan who cant prove anything...

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[Gutsy]

1. Naruto Km is faster than Raikage
2. Bijuu can match Susanoo of Sasuke U_U

But they are both kinda equal in terms of powr and such

 

[nrodrigues]

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Wow, great work as usuall, I would rep you but I can't.

As for the OP you're just a fanboy in denial curent Naruto is much stronger than Sasuke, anyone with a few brain cells can see that. But don't worry I'm sure Sasuke will get a power up soon.

 

[sarahmdnght23]

I think at this time, they are equally matched.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

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1.if naruto was a perfect jinchuriki his bijuu mode would be longer but since his bond with kurama is not there yet he cannot break out of genjutsu, if you want to say that than when naruto took all of the nine tails power and was in full control to use it than he he was a perfect jinchuriki no because he needs a perfect bond or else he cannot break out, he was still afraid of itachi genjutsu because he does not have a perfect bond he is just getting a bond.

2.he doesn't have a pefect bond

3 and 4. if you want believe naruto chakra arms are just not physical and they can't get hit then go ahead.

5.sasuke would have been in strain by now for having used the susanno for that long and didn't show any scenes of pain or slow movement when he had the mangekyou sharingan.

6.who knows what they are going to do i can't tell you that.

7. i said it is possible since susanno has cut threw pillars and wood release so it probably can hurt naruto cloak mode it didn't say it is definite but it has a chance but we haven't seen them fight so we don't know if naruto can even break sasuke new complete susanno it is just a possible chance that is it.


well i am not going to reply to you because you don't understand that he doesn't have his perfect bond with kurama they are not completely in sync but you can go ahead saying naruto is a perfect jinchuriki since he got a some of kurama cooperation but they still don't have the perfect bond or else their transformation would be longer.

if you want to reply you can but i am just not going to respond.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

I think at this time, they are equally matched.

they are close in power to me

1. Naruto Km is faster than Raikage
2. Bijuu can match Susanoo of Sasuke U_U

But they are both kinda equal in terms of powr and such

me too

All these things are taxing on sasuke plus kurama can just tap naruto out a genjutsu, the chakra cloak acts as a protective cover doesn't it? So ameratsu doesnt work right? And didn't madara even say the power of a bijuu is needed to fight his perfect sussanoo- the demon sussanoo, which sasuke doesn't even have, c'mon now look and itachi& sasuke vs kabuto even they had a hard time, naruto n kurama are cool with each other look at tobi n naruto fight fool, stop **** riding a fictional character. Peace.

kurama does not have a perfect bond yet okay they are not like bee who is a perfect jinchuriki.

if sasuke wanted to kill kabuto he could have or even itachi but there mission was to release edo tensai.

yes naruto and kurama are getting to be friends but they don't have the perfect bond and he can't even go more than 5 minutes since they don't have a perfect bond.

think about susanno is chakra right but it can still touch things because it is manfisted chakra so it is physical that how you can touch things in naruto.

so amerterasu can touch his chakra cloak it is physical and his chakra arms.

 

[nrodrigues]

You're just ignoring all the evidence, naruto IS a perfect jinchuriki, its in the fcking manga :sy:

Their link isn't perfect yet but he is still a perfect jinchuriki. Parvin's post is very clear if you didn't already know this from the manga.

You're just in denial.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

You're just ignoring all the evidence, naruto IS a perfect jinchuriki, its in the fcking manga :sy:

Their link isn't perfect yet but he is still a perfect jinchuriki. Parvin's post is very clear if you didn't already know this from the manga.

You're just in denial.

he is not perfect then.