4th Mizukage was not a Perfect Jinchuriki

[MickNerks]

I discovered some intresting things about the 4th Mizukage that i was willing to share with my fellow Basers.

First it is never confirmed in th manga that the 4th is a Perfect J. Danzo states that he MIGHT be.

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Now its fact in the manga that when akatsuki captured the three tails that it was roaming wild. Tobi and deidara were the ones who were responsible for it.

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This was the tobi that appeared after kisame was introduced to him, because kisame had not join akatsuki yet. And here you can see that Tobi is in control of the 4th mizukage:

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Now if the three tails was roaming wild then that must mean that he was extracted from the the 4th. Tobi could have extracted the 3 tails and then taking control of the mizukage and the 3 tails. But this can only be done with imperfect jinchuriki as seen when tobi gained control of 9 tails while extractin it from kushina.
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With all of that my final conclusion is that imperfect jinchurikis maybe controled with genjutsu and that tobi just controled 4th mizukage becasue he was imperfect. There is nothing in the manga saying that 4th mizukage is perfect, only speculation.

What do you think about this?

 

[Chojuro Sama Kun]

I swear to god, i've seen that ava from that xyrho dud

adn yes i agree.

 

[HiddenSound]

Very true. I thought of that before but the only reason I thought of was because the 3 Tails would've broken Tobi's genjutsu.

 

[Pravin5]

Agreed

 

[VangBro95]

Of course Yagura wasn't a perfect jinchuriki, he got controlled by Tobi with genjutsu, if he was perfect the tailed beast would have knocked Yagura until he became conciseness like what happened to Bee when he fought Sasuke. Sasuke trapped Bee into a genjutsu and the 8 tails knocked Bee out of it.

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

Good work. Not sure about the part about when the three tails was removed, but it isn't necessary to your overall theory. +rep.

 

[Narutohokage7]

Very true +rep

 

[william7]

he possibly had control of the three tails chakra but had not tamed it so that might be why tobi could control him

 

[MickNerks]

Of course Yagura wasn't a perfect jinchuriki, he got controlled by Tobi with genjutsu, if he was perfect the tailed beast would have knocked Yagura until he became conciseness like what happened to Bee when he fought Sasuke. Sasuke trapped Bee into a genjutsu and the 8 tails knocked Bee out of it.

I know, but some people still believed he was so i just wanted to give them my theory as to why he wasnt.

Good work. Not sure about the part about when the three tails was removed, but it isn't necessary to your overall theory. +rep.

thanks

Very true +rep

thank you

 

[Rike Senju]

Nice find + rep

 

[Scryed]

It's actually a pretty good theory. Props to you.

 

[WhistleBlower]

Far outt!! You've got very good points + reps

i believe you, but it doesnt say anywhere that the Yonbi was extracted from the 4th Mizukage but i do believe he was a perfect jinchuriki unlike Killer Bee....WEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

 

[home]

good point rep +

 

[Mugen Tsukyomi]

I think it was roaming free because yagura was killed. I more than likely yagura was already dead and tobi used something to control him before the actual actual body became useless and since yagura died so did the yonbi and it takes he's for tailed beasts to be resurrected

 

[MickNerks]

Nice find + rep

It's actually a pretty good theory. Props to you.

Far outt!! You've got very good points + reps

i believe you, but it doesnt say anywhere that the Yonbi was extracted from the 4th Mizukage but i do believe he was a perfect jinchuriki unlike Killer Bee....WEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

good point rep +

Thank you Everyone

 

[Black Adam]

I agree on some but now you're asking us to accept filler as canon this is just a plot hole to fill in where they got the 3 tails I believe this is a situation where the story got away from Kishi if the 3 tails had been extracted at that time then Yagura was being controlled then he would've been dead and it would've been pointless to send Tobi and Diedara after it...imo

 

[Negative Knight]

Nice theory man but i really hope the 4th Mizukage was a perfect Jinchuriki i mean that's worse than Minato dying young. Otherwise Yagura wasn't really a mizukage

+Rep for the thread

 

[Frozenstein]

Before I say anything, what is a perfect jinchuuriki? someone who became friends with his jinchuuriki or someone who can control it fully? these 2 are different things.

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this pic only tell us who could control the tailed beasts fully. 2 of them are not even jinchuurikis while 1 is a friend of his tailed beast. also the maybe part is also applied to Bee and we all know he is a perfect jinchuuriki.

he possibly had control of the three tails chakra but had not tamed it so that might be why tobi could control him

most probably this happened.

 

[MickNerks]

Before I say anything, what is a perfect jinchuuriki? someone who became friends with his jinchuuriki or someone who can control it fully? these 2 are different things.

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this pic only tell us who could control the tailed beasts fully. 2 of them are not even jinchuurikis while 1 is a friend of his tailed beast. also the maybe part is also applied to Bee and we all know he is a perfect jinchuuriki.

A perfect jinchuriki is someone who can meld there chakra with there tailed beast volunteerly.. It helps if your their friend.

In the pic the maybe is only applied to the mizukage.. He says "and maybe the mizukage". and then he breaks off and says "and raikages brother killer bee".

He didnt say "and maybe mizukage and raikages brother killer bee were in control".

 

[Frozenstein]

A perfect jinchuriki is someone who can meld there chakra with there tailed beast volunteerly.. It helps if your their friend.

In the pic the maybe is only applied to the mizukage.. He says "and maybe the mizukage". and then he breaks off and says "and raikages brother killer bee".

He didnt say "and maybe mizukage and raikages brother killer bee were in control".

so you don't have to be friends with the beasts. then according to this Yagura could be a P.J. (perfect jinchuuriki) too.

about the second part I think it's only a matter of how do you interpret the sentence. Bee's name is mentioned after Yagura's name which is pointing out he is in the same class. Ehh it's hard to explain it I'll just show it.

Original:
In any event, the only ones who can truly be said to have controlled the beasts are Uchiha Madara and the first hokage, Hashirama... and maybe the 4th mizukage, Yagura and raikage's brother, Killerbee.

this shows they are in the same "part" under the maybe part.

Second version:
In any event, the only ones who can truly be said to have controlled the beasts are Uchiha Madara and the first hokage, Hashirama... and raikage's brother, Killerbee and maybe the 4th mizukage, Yagura.

this shows, the maybe part only applies to Yagura.

see the difference? so if we go along with the original,
1. Bee isn't a P.J. (what he is)
2. Yagura is a P.J.