[Predictions] Naruto Manga 593 Discussion and 594 Predictions

[KnowledgeGod]

Great chapter. I knew Orochimaru was coming back, I just didn't expect it to be so soon. I'm sort of glad Kishi isn't wasting any time progressing the story, when he wasted (in my opinion) so many chapters talking about Kabuto's childhood and a few other things recently. Last chapter progressed a few other issues a little bit too (Madara is "done" playing, and wants to look for the kyuubi, Tobi is resurrecting an incomplete 10-tails). This chapter really pushes forward Sasuke's story arc a little bit and brought back Orochimaru, a fan favorite.

It opens the idea that Orochimaru had and was able to use senjutsu chakra. I thought Kabuto said that Orochimaru wasn't able to use Senjutsu, because he didn't have a body able to handle it. This does explain why Orochimaru's eyes had black areas around them and why they looked like a snake. Orochimaru's eyes look almost exactly like Kabuto's when he was in full "dragon" mode. I'm just wondering, did Kabuto not know that Orochimaru was able to use senjutsu, or is Orochimaru really not able to use it to the same level as Kabuto can now? Re-read chapter 579 where Kabuto says that Orochimaru didn't have a body able to handle senjutsu, and that Kabuto had surpassed Orochimaru in its use.

I also find it kind of interesting that Kabuto didn't try to resurrect Orochimaru. Kabuto clearly had all the necessary parts to do it. Did Kabuto not know it was possible? Maybe not. Sasuke knew that Orochimaru could come out of the cursed seal because he had seen it happen before, but Kabuto hadn't witnessed the battle between Sasuke and Itachi and might not have know. Kabuto did know a heck of a lot about the cursed seals, however. I wonder why he didn't figure it out.

In this chapter, Suigetsu does seem to make a distinction between "Orochimaru" and "The man who knows everything." In the last chapter, depending on which translation you read, it seemed like Sasuke was talking about them as the same person. Now, it doesn't look like that.

Sasuke seems to think that Orochimaru is the only person able to use the power in that scroll. However, Suigetsu seems to think it's something Sasuke could do now, or with some training.

When Sasuke shows Orochimaru the scroll, Orochimaru asks "What do you want to meet them for?" That suggests that the scroll has something to do with some other people. Maybe it's a way to summon people. Maybe it's a way to enter into a secret or hidden place where certain people live. Maybe it's yet another technique to summon the souls of the dead (or, transport a living person to the realm of the dead). Maybe the scroll contains the secret to Edo Tensei (which neither Sasuke nor Suigetsu knew, previously).

Orochimaru also seems much more...calm and less violent and angry than he had been in the past. He seems to accept Sasuke's character development, and even seems sympathetic towards it. He does claim to want to steal Sasuke's body still, but he doesn't seem as aggressive or selfish about it as he used to.

It's entirely possible that, after everything we've learned, that Orochimaru was not entirely a "bad guy" like he appeared. Danzo was kind of a jerk but he did jerky things because he wanted to protect the village. Itachi slaughtered an entire clan AND joined Akatsuki, but did those things to protect the village. It's possible that Orochimaru did the same kinds of things: He did the kinds of dark, evil medical research that was necessary but couldn't be done in the village. He helped Danzo. He opposed Akatsuki (after joining it and then quitting). His invasion of Konoha is the only real reason I would say this is not true, but if he used it as an excuse to put a more powerful hokage in place (Danzo or himself) there's some justification in it. Also, attacking the village would force them to defend themselves and made the village stronger, which in some way of thinking is a good thing.

This chapter was extremely interesting on a number of levels. I gave it 5 stars, and am looking forward to seeing how this story arc progresses.

Good insight! Logic

 

[XiZ]

Ok, whaaaaaaaaaaat?

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"He's far different from when Tobi and I were using him..."

"Tobi and I"? The ****?

And I think when Itachi sealed Oro with the Sword of Totsuka, he only sealed a part of Orochimaru since the other part was sealed in Anko, so if he were to die, he'd come back. Don't you guys remember the fight between Itachi and Sasuke, where Sasuke called out that giant snake and Orochimaru came out of it? It's the same now!

 

[Uchiha Jin]

I think its his parents he wants to revive.

 

[NinJaGirl99]

I think the same... because he says he wants to talk with more than one person, it has to be his parents(bcoz sasu is quite emotional right now) to confirm why they were plotting against konoha. Sasuke right now has heard only Itachi side; now its time to hear it from his mother and father. They are going back to Uchiha village where they can find dna of his mother and father to bring them back with Edo tensei.

Sasu still looks confident that he can Oro on his own. Tobi... he can be danzo; I know he is sealed or whatever... but the character that can collaborate with Oro is Danzo.

1. Both are from root
2. Both are looking to combine uchiha and senju. Danzo was after sharingans/hashi dna and Oro wanted sasuke's body to beat Itachi and get EMS by taking Itachi's eyes(can't say if his plans extended to getting rinnegan as well). Oro was the mad scientist who doing his experiments for danzo so he knows about hashi anyways. The problem is that Itachi and kakashi would have known about Tobi being Danzo using the sharingan unless he has some jutsu that allows him to take replicate elses chakra for awhile.
3. Also, I believe Oro knew about Madara being alive after his fight with hashi which means all three villians.. oro, madara and tobi who i suspect is danzo were planning this from a long time.

[A real twist would be all Uchihas to be alive after the massacre and entire massacre to be a plot to make konoha believe that Uchiha clan is dead. :ice:]

The Uchiha clan alive? That would be the twist of the century!

 

[SashaUchiha]

So Sasuke says "He wants to meet them..." who's 'them'?

I love the way how Sasuke's thinking independently

Sasuke, my friend, has finally grown up! U_U

Loved that part...

them--> All Hokage is my best guess... U_U

 

[~Yubel~]

Omg!!!! I loved this chapter!!!:izuna:
Yeeeeeees!!! He´s back!!! Orochimaru is back and he´s looking better then ever!!!xd
Loved this chapter and everything about it 5/5 WOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!:noc:
This chapter was so OG, everything was so cool and kishi only increased the epicness and surprise by releasing it early!!!=DD
Epic chapter!! Jawdropping!!!!!:whoa:

 

[SashaUchiha]

I think the same... because he says he wants to talk with more than one person, it has to be his parents(bcoz sasu is quite emotional right now) to confirm why they were plotting against konoha. Sasuke right now has heard only Itachi side; now its time to hear it from his mother and father. They are going back to Uchiha village where they can find dna of his mother and father to bring them back with Edo tensei.

Sasu still looks confident that he can Oro on his own. Tobi... he can be danzo; I know he is sealed or whatever... but the character that can collaborate with Oro is Danzo.

1. Both are from root
2. Both are looking to combine uchiha and senju. Danzo was after sharingans/hashi dna and Oro wanted sasuke's body to beat Itachi and get EMS by taking Itachi's eyes(can't say if his plans extended to getting rinnegan as well). Oro was the mad scientist who doing his experiments for danzo so he knows about hashi anyways. The problem is that Itachi and kakashi would have known about Tobi being Danzo using the sharingan unless he has some jutsu that allows him to take replicate elses chakra for awhile.
3. Also, I believe Oro knew about Madara being alive after his fight with hashi which means all three villians.. oro, madara and tobi who i suspect is danzo were planning this from a long time.

[A real twist would be all Uchihas to be alive after the massacre and entire massacre to be a plot to make konoha believe that Uchiha clan is dead. :ice:]

MY GAWD!!! Come to think about it! none of the Uchihas were Edo tensei-ed for the war??? even if it's not true, just for coming up with that idea... +rep xd

 

[Mante]

So, Oro knows who Tobi is even? x_x

 

[-Ibrahim-]

Orochimaru is plotting something, i know it. Hes a smart dude, hes lying about the war part.

 

[Jyuubislayer]

Awesome chapter!

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

So much shit through me for a loop. First of all I was not expecting to see te manga released today that was a nice surprise. And Orochimaru really is back like fully back I knew they were going to use Anko to talk with him but I didn't think he would be back. So much for all of kabutos power since Orochimaru took his chakra out of him leaving him normal.

Last who is the them that sasuke wants to speak to. I have a feeling it is the sons of the sage but don't quote me on that. All in all pretty good chapter and I usually hate talk no jutsu chapter but this one had alot of good stuff in it.

Side note next two mangas are gunna be in color I'm hyped.

 

[OWanime]

5/5 because sasuke isn't an emo boy anymore and can actually control his emotions xd and oro is back ...can't wait

 

[stoikis]

awesome chapter

 

[~Yubel~]

Btw guys, i told you orochimaru wasn´t the one who knew everything so yeah, i was right and you who didn´t believe me back then can suck it now.

 

[9th Raikage]

It was released early. I can't believe oro is back. I doesn't make sense even though it is kinda explained.

I think the scroll is a formula for Edo Tensei. Sasuke is intending to revive more than one person.

Probably his parents.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

Orochimaru stated that he put his own senin chakra into the curse seals and also added his split consciousness along with it...sounds familiar to me! Spirit/Mind/Consciousness<<<Maybe the soul is totally diffrent from the spirit, maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong lol! Logic

 

[riar]

It was a cool surprise as manga came earlier. Excited to see next week's coloured chapter .

 

[9th Raikage]

A place you know all too well? hoping its tobis base to give more proof to my theory or maybe konoha while the shinobi are attaining the war?

Maybe the secret Uchiha Place where only those with special eyes can read the information in the tablets???:shrug:

 

[tejasomina]

One question, why weren't any Uchihas (except for Madara) were revived with Edo-Tensei in the war? It's weird, because we saw completely new characters like Kinkaku and Ginkaku in the zombie army.

Was the massacre faked? But Itachi's version showed him killing his parents. Sasuke's father is v strong afaik and Kabuto would definitely leverage him in the war

Or, may be Uchihas cannot be revived with Edo-Tensei unless they want to be, like Madara? But again, Itachi was revived, and Kabuto said he couldn't get Shisui's dna and so cannot revive him as if he can actually revive him if given dna. So, Uchihas can be revived. In this case, why weren't any Uchihas used in the war? Why not even Sasuke's father, although we know as a matter of fact from Sasuke's memories that he died?

I think the scroll has info on Edo-Tensei - what it is, how to do it, limitations, and ways to bypass (not sure about it). Sasuke might want Orochimaru's formula tags to program the zombies, that's the reason he revived him

And, Sasuke using sealing jutsu? Come on, he copied it from Kakashi? Back then, Sasuke couldn't even use Sharingan due to the cursed seal, he cannot have seen the sealing method with sharingan. His curse seal used to activate when he used it

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And if he learnt it on his own, I might say "You can even use sealing jutsu these days, Sasuke" like how Oro tells Kakashi

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[Gitanshu]

Oro is back and that to for good.