isn't madara already on the sage of six path base level

is madara on the sage of six path(with out the ten tails) level


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Vexorian

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Eh, the sons DNA have nothing to do with it. They were weak comparatively. So6P could use any jutsu, at any time, and use the Creation of All Things to do anything. Madara is the closest, tied maybe with Tobi, but that isn't even close to the So6P's power.
 

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Eh, the sons DNA have nothing to do with it. They were weak comparatively. So6P could use any jutsu, at any time, and use the Creation of All Things to do anything. Madara is the closest, tied maybe with Tobi, but that isn't even close to the So6P's power.

you need the sons dna to be able to do what the sage did.
madara has that now.
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Obviously not. The sage>madara
 

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Okay how do I explain this...

First off, Madara only gained a PORTION of Hashirama's power. To increase your maximum chakra capacity (Not the same as unlimited chakra reserves like Madara has) you need a full Senju body. Having Hashirama's face on his nipple only increases his maximum chakra proportionately to that face, and does not grant him power equal to Hashirama's max stats. Their union does not equate to Madara and Hashirama's max power put together.

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Now here Kabuto states that he can now touch a FRAGMENT of the Sage's power. There is no "base" level for the sage and we do not even know how many things are what made him sage to begin with. All we can go by is the manga which clearly states Madara is still nothing when compared to the sage. Don't blow Madara's (Still impressive) power out of proportion. Naruto, Tobi, and Kabuto would all be difficult opponents for him.

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umm we dont know the full power of the sage of the six paths. for all we know he could be even stronger then we imagined or weaker than we imagined (i dont count on the second on happening) so this thread is premature since we dont have much useful data on the sage of the six paths
 

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The Sage created the moon in his deathbed... that's his weakest state. Sage's weakest state is 10000000+ times stronger than Madara. U_U
 

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Nope not even close.

Madara will never ever ever be on his level, neither will anyone else in the manga. Madara is arguably the strongest atm but hes a grain of sugar in a extra large bag of sugar next to so6p.

i understand hes probably your fave and whatever but please dont be so silly. Naruto wont die till the end of the manga if he dies. (meaning madara will have been stomped out long before that)
 

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Kabuto said that with the power he created (Edo Madara) he could now touch a "fragment" of the sage's power. That by itself is massive hype. Though Kabuto probably never saw what the Sage could really do, perhaps he isn't a reliable source. Considering that not every Uchiha or Senju are necessarily equal in power, perhaps the Sage's Uchiha and Senju along with his Rinnegan are on an entirely different level. COAT is a specific Yin-Yang Release that creates things from nothingness. Just because he has some of the things the Sage had, it doesn't mean he's as good at using those things at the level of the Sage. Perhaps he does have Yin-Yang Release but it doesn't automatically mean that he knows how to use it. He did show great skill with Yin Release and Yang Release through his clones but what if that skill still wasn't good enough? And he needs to learn how to use Yin-Yang Release altogether.To use COAT, he has to know how to create a form from nothingness and another feat to breathe life into that form. Yin-Yang.

We only know he managed to subdue the Juubi and used COAT to distribute its chakra into the 9 tailed beasts. After that, he created the moon with the Juubi inside it. Whether he used the chakra of the Juubi is still unknown.

With COAT he could probably create copies of Madara to further aid him in battle. Perhaps clones of himself or the Juubi. Though he might have to distribute chakra into those forms so perhaps they would be weaker or maybe they become their own beings with whatever amount of chakra the Sage wants to make them with. To me, COAT is his main hype. Aside from the probability of him creating more techniques to fit the situation.
 
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I still say the closest person to reach the sage's power is Nagato. He was renowned as being a god by many different shinobi. He possesses the rinnegan, and is extremely skilled with this doujutsu, being able to destroy all of Konoha, as well as taking over the hidden rain village single handed. He is a descendent of the Senju, who are in turn descendents of the sage's youngest son. In a sense he has all the necessary requirements to be the sage of six paths incarnate.

I'll admit Madara is powerful, but not on Nagato's level, not yet anyways.
 

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close to the sage's level without the juubi imo. although the unlimited chakra and undying body think is a huge boost, he hasn't shown real mastery of either the rinnegan or mokuton, he just knows the techs
 

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As kabuto stated, Madara can olny toutch a fragment of so6p power.
 

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I think SO6P will only be caught by naruto. My question is, how will he do it? And I think its too soon to draw conclusions- as there are many things yet to be revealed.I think we can start guessing who tobi is and the truth about oro in month's time via manga. lol it may take 6 manga's until oro tells him what he want to know.
 

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Talking about NORMAL madara which is no where CLOSE to sage :D i know you are talking about "haxed,BOOSTED" madara :D which is why people are hyping him so much xd not even senju and uchiha dna mixed are not close enuff to get sages level, he's sons were uchiha/senju clan ancestors which means each generation grows up weaker and gets more distance to original which is SO6P. MY answer ---> No potential, No powerful enuff, not HAXED by countless PLOTS enough xd.
 
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