2nd Son>1st Son - Senju > Uchiha!?

[Cascade]

So just quick... UCHIHA ARE DEFINITLY STRONG...REALLY STRONG...BUT READ OP

The senju and the 2nd son for that matter - have the body of the sage - it then relates to the uzumaki - the senju and a bunch of other members of the naruto verse...

- now is it me or is the way Madara is talking about + Oro's time spent creating yamato +++ Hashi's DNA transplant to both Danzo and Madara make them sorta superior - afterall Madara says himself that Hashi is the only one to be able to take Madara head-on...Madara needed hashi's DNA to get a +up, and Edo - which is produced from a Senju also gave him that boost...

Naruto seems to be like one of the others to take on Madara - and he's an uzumaki - Naruto also takes on Sasuke...Overpowered by Kurama - but only because Naruto has uzumaki blood and chakra to control the 9 tails...

PLEASE do not turn this into a Itachi <3 thread...
Itachi is one of my favourite chars...but he's the only one to use izanami so far?
Itachi = boss but because of his own ingenuity - not just the sharingan...

If we take the epitimy of each group... then...
Hashi>Reg Madara
BM Naruto > Current Sasuke (not a debate about this i beleive)

and then the Uchiha were supressed by the Hyuuga in the Lead Village for long enough that they needed a coup-de-edat -...

seems like they were a little weaker generally...



so body > Eyes?

if i can parallel it...

Senju = Uchiha

Uzumaki = Hyuuga, what do you think,

They are

body = Eyes

but in different scales comparatively...

 

[OnPoint]

Actually, the only thing seperating the two clans are 'love' and 'power' - The Will of Fire and The Curse of Hatred. They remain equally powerful, however, the Senju fight to protect things that are important to them, and that is what true power is.

 

[Hipster Madara]

By what has been said- they are equal
by feats- Uchiha is stronger in exception to hashirama xd

 

[Rariatto]

I hate Senju.
I hate Uchiha.

I will destory them both..

 

[saaaaaadpanda]

I think it's difficult to make generalizations like Senju>Uchiha. You have to look at individuals. For instance, in my opinion, Hashi>Madara by simple virtue of him winning their fight. That does not mean all Senju are greater than all Uchiha.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I hate Senju.
I hate Uchiha.

I will destory them both..

I like what this guy said

 

[Cascade]

I think it's difficult to make generalizations like Senju>Uchiha. You have to look at individuals. For instance, in my opinion, Hashi>Madara by simple virtue of him winning their fight. That does not mean all Senju are greater than all Uchiha.

True...but then Naruto>Sasuke...
Nagato>Itachi??

Tobirama, Hiruzen even (extention of senju???)

Even individuals seem to take over the uchiha

 

[Cascade]

I like what this guy said

its just semi-gai because hes trying to be Tobi...

 

[Maunten]

I think it's difficult to make generalizations like Senju>Uchiha. You have to look at individuals. For instance, in my opinion, Hashi>Madara by simple virtue of him winning their fight. That does not mean all Senju are greater than all Uchiha.

We have seen more extraordinary non uchiha than we have seen uchiha.

 

[shogun973]

their suppose to be tied but
uchihas are stronger i mean look at weak tsunade...... itachi, sasuke, madara shishui all can beat tsunade and tobirama

only hashirama beats them i think its only because he doesn't require hand seals

and yes i said this before uzamiki=hyuga

 

[OnPoint]

True...but then Naruto>Sasuke...
Nagato>Itachi??

Tobirama, Hiruzen even (extention of senju???)

Even individuals seem to take over the uchiha

Nagato > Itachi because Nagato has the Sage's power. That is nothing to do with Senju vs Uchiha. And yes, in the very end, Naruto will be greater than Sasuke for the very reasons I gave in my first post.

 

[shogun973]

True...but then Naruto>Sasuke...
Nagato>Itachi??

Tobirama, Hiruzen even (extention of senju???)

Even individuals seem to take over the uchiha

i don't get it nagato is not a senju he is an uzamiki, they are distant relatives not pure senju itachi is pure uchiha

 

[Cascade]

Nagato > Itachi because Nagato has the Sage's power. That is nothing to do with Senju vs Uchiha. And yes, in the very end, Naruto will be greater than Sasuke for the very reasons I gave in my first post.

well nagato had uzumaki tho...only reason why he could even have rinnegan, but i see your point...also why are u 1 rep power...ur logical an thoughtful in your comments...

 

[Maunten]

their suppose to be tied but
uchihas are stronger i mean look at weak tsunade...... itachi, sasuke, madara shishui all can beat tsunade and tobirama

only hashirama beats them i think its only because he doesn't require hand seals

and yes i said this before uzamiki=hyuga

Shisui beats tsunade how?

Leaf = senju

Uchiha = Uchiha

Leaf > uchiha.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Guys can we stop this madness I mean please?

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It has been shown throughout the manga the senju were stronger, why question kishi would he give us all these signs for no reason

 

[OnPoint]

well nagato had uzumaki tho...only reason why he could even have rinnegan, but i see your point...also why are u 1 rep power...ur logical an thoughtful in your comments...

Why thank you ^^ It must be because I only joined today.

 

[Maunten]

Guys can we stop this madness I mean please?

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It has been shown throughout the manga the senju were stronger, why question kishi would he give us all these signs for no reason

I see many people saying it was just hashi that made them stronger, I don't know why.

It is more likely izuna and madara carried the uchiha rather than hashi carrying the senju. The gap between Sharingan and MS is huge.

It is possible for a non motokun to beat a motokun.

 

[Cascade]

Guys can we stop this madness I mean please?

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It has been shown throughout the manga the senju were stronger, why question kishi would he give us all these signs for no reason

thankyouuu...+rep for helping support my arguement

 

[~Dream~]

I agreed with 50% of what you said then you when you were like senju>uchiha I was like NO WAY! xd This is the way I see it. Senju blood lets you live longer,life force whatever the fu

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

But what I am saying is that senju as a whole are stronger then the uchiha, as it has been stated in the manga of course I don't mean every individual senju is stronger then every individual uchiha it is as a whole.

I seriously wanted dare question kishi, why? because he gave the uchiha all there feats that is what everyone forgets. If he says senju are stronger he can make up anything and give them any feats to be stronger so lets just accept.