Yamato - Orochimaru - Madara

[ImNoOne]

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A TOBI ID THREAD!!

I had this theory before but due to lack of information I discarded it, yet recently I was wondering...

Orochimaru did succeed in making Hashirama's clone, Yamato.

Firstly I discredit the possibility of him making a Madara's clone as he had no access to Madara's body. But the fact is that he did. Otherwise how would Kabuto make an Edo Madara?

Would it be possible that Orochimaru had made a Madara's clone like he did with Hashirama? If so could it be Tobi? Orochimaru seemed to had lost track of Yamato and seeing him was a surprise. The same could have happened to a Madara clone.

Actually the same theory would be valid for most dead Uchiha and shinobi in general. Rendering many theories that Tobi's identity can not be A or B or C because we know they are dead.

Well what do you think about it? Is it too farfetched?

 

[MMaElite]

I already said this in the first thread I ever posted. Only few said good theory

 

[ImNoOne]

I already said this in the first thread I ever posted. Only few said good theory

I mean even if it was not Orochimaru doing. certainly there could have been others. Especially Uchiaha that might have tried this approach.

The idea of bringing back the dead should have been present since the 2nd Hokage first invented Edo Tensei....

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

NOTE: THIS IS NOT A TOBI ID THREAD!!

I had this theory before but due to lack of information I discarded it, yet recently I was wondering...

Orochimaru did succeed in making Hashirama's clone, Yamato.

Firstly I discredit the possibility of him making a Madara's clone as he had no access to Madara's body. But the fact is that he did. Otherwise how would Kabuto make an Edo Madara?

Would it be possible that Orochimaru had made a Madara's clone like he did with Hashirama? If so could it be Tobi? Orochimaru seemed to had lost track of Yamato and seeing him was a surprise. The same could have happened to a Madara clone.

Actually the same theory would be valid for most dead Uchiha and shinobi in general. Rendering many theories that Tobi's identity can not be A or B or C because we know they are dead.

Well what do you think about it? Is it too farfetched?

Hmmm maybe, but it may be a bit to far fetched in some areas.

 

[NaruGoku]

Well, Yamato is not a Hashi clone. He's his own person, he was a child with his own soul, what Oro did was put Hashi DNA into him, giving him Hashi's techs. so i still don't think Tobi would be someone dead who was made into a clone this way. It could be a person with Madara's DNA though, and maybe raised to be like Madara's son which would be why he holds the same ideals. But otherwise, no, yamato's not a clone and i don't believe Tobi is a madara clone if he was created the same way that yamato was. to be a clone, it would have had to be Madara's DNA/semen injected into a woman to give birth to a being with 100% Madara DNA, done by invetro-insemination. that would make a true clone but there's nothing to suggest that, especially since tobi said "im no one."

Now, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you are wrong or tobi being some sort of clone is an impossible idea, these are just my thoughts

 

[ImNoOne]

Hmmm maybe, but it may be a bit to far fetched in some areas.

Which areas? And I'm not saying I think actually happen. I'm just stating the possibility. And questioning your opinions on the plausibility of it to have happen.

 

[ImNoOne]

Well, Yamato is not a Hashi clone. He's his own person, he was a child with his own soul, what Oro did was put Hashi DNA into him, giving him Hashi's techs. so i still don't think Tobi would be someone dead who was made into a clone this way. It could be a person with Madara's DNA though, and maybe raised to be like Madara's son which would be why he holds the same ideals. But otherwise, no, yamato's not a clone and i don't believe Tobi is a madara clone if he was created the same way that yamato was. to be a clone, it would have had to be Madara's DNA/semen injected into a woman to give birth to a being with 100% Madara DNA, done by invetro-insemination. that would make a true clone but there's nothing to suggest that, especially since tobi said "im no one."

Now, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you are wrong or tobi being some sort of clone is an impossible idea, these are just my thoughts

I think it was stated that Yamato was a copy of Hashirama. A clone. Obviously he is a different person but the dan should be the same. And Orochimaru did have Madara's DNA that's how they were able to make an Edo Madara in the first place.

 

[NaruGoku]

I mean even if it was not Orochimaru doing. certainly there could have been others. Especially Uchiaha that might have tried this approach.

The idea of bringing back the dead should have been present since the 2nd Hokage first invented Edo Tensei....

Well, it's true that the idea of bringing back the dead may have been around, but
ONLY the 2nd Hokage knew the Edo Tensei. Orochimaru only knew it because it was a tech developed in Konoha and he probably stole the scroll that had such a forbidden jutsu in it--i doubt Oro, or anyone else for that matter, could have figured it out on their own.

 

[NaruGoku]

I think it was stated that Yamato was a copy of Hashirama. A clone. Obviously he is a different person but the dan should be the same. And Orochimaru did have Madara's DNA that's how they were able to make an Edo Madara in the first place.

well, Yamato really wasn't a clone. he has Hashi DNA, but to be a clone he'd have to have only Hashi DNA. he is Yamato, with some Hashi cells/DNA mixed into his own. and i never said Oro didn't have Madara's DNA... although, it could have just been Kabuto who found it, we aren't positively sure if Oro had it for a long time or if Kabuto located it after Oro's death. what i said was that he couldn't have figured out how to perform Edo Tensei on his own so he probably stoll a scroll of Forbidden Jutsu that had E.T. in it or something, that's all i said.

and read the bottom of my first post, i said i don't necessarily disagree with you or that your idea is impossible, just that Yamato is not technically a "clone" so if Tobi was created the same way--a child/baby injected with Madara DNA--he would also not be a real "clone." But i didn't say you are totally wrong about Tobi, i was just giving my thoughs so read the bottom part of that first post again--or don't cuz it's basically like the bottom part of this one. LOL

And i'm REALLY sorry for the double post, I thought i had seen someone else post something after my last post so this was very unintentional