Nagato>Naruto?

Is Nagato Over-Rated


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Re: Naruto never beat Nagato!!!

Actually Naruto did beat Nagato, the only problem was that their was a major handicap and several occasions where Nagato could have curb stomped him.


That's stupid. The fight didn't go on nearly long enough for chakra reserves to even be an problem.
Yep this pretty much made the post he replied to null.
 

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Re: Naruto never beat Nagato!!!

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Re: Naruto never beat Nagato!!!

people think it was plot no jutsu that naruto beat him with his talk no jutsu. but actually it was nagato who was lucky and save his dignity since they dont fight.

how could nagato kill naruto the one who's name is the show it self :rofl: if they fight to the death naruto would defeat him
 

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Re: Naruto never beat Nagato!!!

people think it was plot no jutsu that naruto beat him with his talk no jutsu. but actually it was nagato who was lucky and save his dignity since they dont fight.

how could nagato kill naruto the one who's name is the show it self :rofl: if they fight to the death naruto would defeat him
you can predict who would have won if they fought ,but naruto didnt lay a finger on nagato period.
 

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Enough, Naruto never has and (IMO) Never Will beat Nagato.

Do not bother posting if your not going to read. If you are a naruto Fanboy i strongly suggest you do read. If you are a hater, I suggest you take your business elsewhere.

So lately the Naruto bandwagon train has gotten out of control and I feel like I should slow it down with a serious speed bump. (I thought Uchiha fans were bad but this breed of narutards is on a whole nother level.)

The fact of the matter is, Indeed Naruto is strong, but he never has, and never will Beat Nagato. Here are some point's to support my statement.

1.Let's start back at the SM Naruto (and his summons) vs 6 Paths of Pain (handicapped)

Clearly you see it being stated the most powerful of the paths, Deva Path not being able to us his powers. (Hence why any path was taken out)

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In the end, once his powers returned look where Naruto is left off

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To Summarize, I hope you understand
  • The entire Fight pain had no intent to kill, but to capture.
  • Naruto would have been in that position since the start of the fight if Deva had his powers.
  • Pain says " I avoided any vital wounds" in other words he could have ended naruto's life right there if he wanted to, but of course plot requires the Akatsuki needing kurama.
2.Next, It took 8 Tails to get out of Celestiel Terra Blast and as Pain said, all he had to do was make a bigger one.

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Note: It may not seem like a valid point but we will get back to it further down this thread.

Yes I understand in the end he defeated pain, but only after every other path was gone (which they never would have if Deva had his powers from the start). Plus, it was Pain, NOT Nagato as he is still alive.

3. Now, on to the meeting. This has been one of the biggest trolls in Naruto history and is unforgivable. This is when Kishi went crazy. He creates the 3rd SO6P, a Mini God, Still one of the strongest Chars in Naruto today and he loses to WORDS? There is no denying plot no jutsu exists when one of the strongest characters just "disappears" because he had a conversation with a weaker opponent and felt SO BAD for destroying everything Naruto knew and loved, he gave up his life to bring everyone back.

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If your going to question whether Naruto could have defeated Nagato had they fought your wrong. Naruto had one more shot at SM which would not last him long enough to survive Nagato, he already lost 2 clones fighting 5 paths with Deva still alive and without his powers, he could not defeat Nagato who wields all their powers at once.

4. Now that we establish he defeated Pain (NOT Nagato) by plot, onto the war.

KM Naruto as well stands no Chance, while he showed some impressive feats such as surviving Bansho Tenin, He could do nothing to Nagato.

Exhibit A. he got caught by Asura path and was going to Die with the combo of Preta and Naraka Path.

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Exhibit B. Not only did he get caught, but continued failing by using his Rasengan despite having knowledge that Nagato could absorb it. Thus proving even if Naruto has some strenght to match Nagato, he has no brains whatsoever to keep up with him.
(P.S don't gimme that b.s that he was trying to see if Nagato was controlled, as in the next slide I show he was trapped for good, why would he put himself to be in a position he could not get out and die just to test if Nagato lost his personality?)
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Exhibit C. All this Time Itachi was free thanks to K.A, so this was all Nagato's doing. Not only did Naruto fail, but his not so smarter Teacher get's caught as well. (Honestly name anything they could have done to get out, they were getting their chakra sucked dry/ their souls)

(Another P.S that sm trick would not have worked since it was a summoning holding Naruto, and Preta path wouldbe used to just absorb attacks. Nagato was just sucking out his soul. Unlike Naruto he learns from his mistakes)

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Like I said, Killer Bee is of no use.

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Exhibit D. Oh look, as usual Itachi has to save them both. (Had it not been for Itachi, Naruto would have yet again died and the war would have been lossed)

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Exhibit E. Remember my CT point earlier? Here we see Naruto say " how it's on a whole nother level", meaning Nagato could have done this back in their previous fight.

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Once again, proving Naruto does not have the brains to defeat Nagato and looses his cool (as a shinobi never should). Meanwhile Itachi is solving every problem (the weakness, not needing to aim, etc)

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. It is debatable whether current BM Naruto has the power to destroy CT by himself. Regardless he did not figure it out and showed no sign of ever figuring it out. Not to mention it was a1 v 3 for Nagato, as I said many times it would have been over a long time ago.

As for BM Naruto vs 100% Healthy Nagato.

  • One if it's Edo Nagato, he cannot win as he has no sealing techniques.
  • Preta Path cancels every attack Naruto has
  • The Summoning give him 100% vision to everything and can keep up with his speed
  • Shinra Tensei once again cancels everything, TBB or not.
  • Asura gives him advantage against multiple clones, with his arms and Missles to take out numerous Narutos
  • Naruto can do nothing against Human Path
  • He did not figure out how to stop CT and it would crush him.
I'd post pics On the last Part about BM but it's pretty self explanatory.

Arguments I will receive.


  • Yes preta path can infact absorb a TBB and all, it has never failed to absorb anything.
  • The Dog summoning will survive as Naruto has no way of gettng rid of them, so his 100% Vision will not go away.
  • Shinra tensei never failed to push anything
  • It's debatable whether he can stop CT even if he had info on it.

You may flame me, or somehow Change my mind (Although I doubt it) feel free to take this however you'd like.
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

1. your avatar rocks
2. naruto beat 5 out of six and the one he didnt beat was the strongest.. by far
3. the kyuubi tired out the sixth pain
4. naruto did beat a weakened pain
5. naruto talk no jutsued the seventh into death
6. i didnt read ill do that now
7. you said nagato not pain
8. i feel retarded
9. but so should you
10.its obvious naruto would lose by him self against nagato without six paths of pain
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

LOL, dont forget (NARUTO) IS THE MAIN CHARACTER < ENOUGH SAYING THAT HE WILL NEVER BEAT NAGATO < I MEAN LOL ? JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE NAGATO AT HIS HEALTHY FIGHTING DOESNT MEAN HES STRONG < YOURE OVER RATING HIM
 

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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

OP your bore me. He took down all the Pains, Leaving just Nagato, a pretty much lifeless husk. SM Naruto > WheelChair Nagato.
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

I'm a Naruto fanboy, didn't read, and still says Naruto>Nagato. WHAT!?
LOL, dont forget (NARUTO) IS THE MAIN CHARACTER < ENOUGH SAYING THAT HE WILL NEVER BEAT NAGATO < I MEAN LOL ? JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE NAGATO AT HIS HEALTHY FIGHTING DOESNT MEAN HES STRONG < YOURE OVER RATING HIM
OP your bore me. He took down all the Pains, Leaving just Nagato, a pretty much lifeless husk. SM Naruto > WheelChair Nagato.
No really, go on Naruto fans keep showing me how intelligent you all are.


OT, if anyone Who likes naruto and is In a high school level learning environment and higher please tell me how wrong I am.
 

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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

Honestly, you opinions aside, Naruto will inevitably be (if he is not already) stronger than Nagato and every other character. this is going on the virtue of the show being called 'Naruto'. So saying "he will never surpass Nagato" is quite ridiculous IMO.
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

Naruto could never beat Nagato you say?? Lol, i must be reading a different manga, the one i read is called Naruto!!! He is the main character, but i guess there is another manga called Nagato, and a tv show called Nagato Shippuden.
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

This info is 100% accurate, I believe Nagato is still one of the strongest characters in Naruto to date. He is a mini Sage of Six Paths, the only person I see actually going toe to toe with him is Edo Madara.
 
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Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.

plus rep bro you acutally made a valid argument but hoplefully you see this

dude if naruto beats the maksed man than you have to eat all your words
 
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