Kakashi would beat all of the kages

[YellowFang]

true i was mocking the use of just in the phrases 'kakashi would just dodge jinton and kakashi would just use water style against lava style'. and it is also true that kakashi cannot be defeated by any kage out there however pitiful you make them out to be THAT easily (if at all)

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[Bmill]

Clearly who ever made this thread Is smokin some weird shit kakashi has no chance against neither of them!....I like kakashi but he's just not that strong.

 

[ItachiMadara13]

Kakashi can beat gaara if he use water style..

 

[Naruto9001]

Kakashi can beat gaara if he use water style..

Water dosen't work on sand.

 

[MutantWhale]

Kakashi is smart but he wont last long, he has no chakra at all, maybe Mizukage at best.

 

[Bogard]

Water dosen't work on sand.

Why do you say that? Do you have a proof in the manga? Cuz in the real life when water touches sand it becomes mudy, and i don't know why it would be different in the manga.

Also, Kakashi possess a doton technique to hide underground and catch his opponents from underground so i don't see why it couldn't be possible for him to catch Gaara this way avoiding even his defenses

 

[Naruto9001]

Why do you say that? Do you have a proof in the manga? Cuz in the real life when water touches sand it becomes mudy, and i don't know why it would be different in the manga.

Also, Kakashi possess a doton technique to hide underground and catch his opponents from underground so i don't see why it couldn't be possible for him to catch Gaara this way avoiding even his defenses

Do i really need to give proof to you why? Mei's water didn't effect Gaara's sand.

Gaara can create sand underground.

 

[uchihaitachi12]

no

 

[shiswi akola madara]

almost all kages are weak against kamui?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Why do you say that? Do you have a proof in the manga? Cuz in the real life when water touches sand it becomes mudy, and i don't know why it would be different in the manga.

Also, Kakashi possess a doton technique to hide underground and catch his opponents from underground so i don't see why it couldn't be possible for him to catch Gaara this way avoiding even his defenses

Gaara sand isnt effected by water and
And gaara can fly so how is Kakashi cetching him underground plus he's a sensor Kakashi can't hide in this fihjt

 

[Bogard]

Gaara sand isnt effected by water and
And gaara can fly so how is Kakashi cetching him underground plus he's a sensor Kakashi can't hide in this fihjt

I must admit you were right. After re-reading the chapter it's true that Mizukages suiton wasn't affecting this sand from Gaara, but i also think you're misjudging. I'm not sure but probably Gaara used a great amount of sand and it's why it seemed as if the water had no effects but it's wrong. It had an effect but it probably only took a part of the sand and the action was going so quickly that we didn't notice. At least it's what i think happened:shrug:

And no Gaara is not a sensor. He uses his sand to know the position of the ennemy if the sand touches the ennmy. It's different. Also, like i've said, Gaara never fights like that, at least i've never seen him fighting like that, so i don't see it happening

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I must admit you were right. After re-reading the chapter it's true that Mizukages suiton wasn't affecting this sand from Gaara, but i also think you're misjudging. I'm not sure but probably Gaara used a great amount of sand and it's why it seemed as if the water had no effects but it's wrong. It had an effect but it probably only took a part of the sand and the action was going so quickly that we didn't notice. At least it's what i think happened:shrug:

And no Gaara is not a sensor. He uses his sand to know the position of the ennemy if the sand touches the ennmy. It's different. Also, like i've said, Gaara never fights like that, at least i've never seen him fighting like that, so i don't see it happening

How do u think he found mu countless times
Also about the water go to his bio it states gaara can still munipulate sand even when sagurated (soaked )in water It doesn't effect it with so ever only oil affects it because it's sticky and SEPERATEs it's compound

Gaara can both fly and levitate in sand for him flying find a clip of naruto vs gaara naruto shippuden movie 3 he's actually flying

 

[Bogard]

How do u think he found mu countless times
Also about the water go to his bio it states gaara can still munipulate sand even when sagurated (soaked )in water It doesn't effect it with so ever only oil affects it because it's sticky and SEPERATEs it's compound

Gaara can both fly and levitate in sand for him flying find a clip of naruto vs gaara naruto shippuden movie 3 he's actually flying

He found Muu thanks to his sand like i've said. When his sand touches you, he can find you. The fact is that he can create small pieces of sand and throw it through the area when he is fighting and when even one small quantity of his sand touches you, he can know were you are. It's how he managed to find Muu:

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Look carefully on the top of this pic. You will see small quantity of sand touching Muu while he wanted to attack Onoki from behind. It's how it works.

And yes i'm not saying Gaara can't fly. I'm saying he never fights like that. It's not his fighting style, that's why i say i don't see it happening. He only fly when he has to fly another opponent who fight this way(Deidara)

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He found Muu thanks to his sand like i've said. When his sand touches you, he can find you. The fact is that he can create small pieces of sand and throw it through the area when he is fighting and when even one small quantity of his sand touches you, he can know were you are. It's how he managed to find Muu:

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Look carefully on the top of this pic. You will see small quantity of sand touching Muu while he wanted to attack Onoki from behind. It's how it works.

And yes i'm not saying Gaara can't fly. I'm saying he never fights like that. It's not his fighting style, that's why i say i don't see it happening. He only fly when he has to fly another opponent who fight this way(Deidara)

He does fly like tht look it up naruto shippuden movie 3 naruto vs gaara

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He found Muu thanks to his sand like i've said. When his sand touches you, he can find you. The fact is that he can create small pieces of sand and throw it through the area when he is fighting and when even one small quantity of his sand touches you, he can know were you are. It's how he managed to find Muu:

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Look carefully on the top of this pic. You will see small quantity of sand touching Muu while he wanted to attack Onoki from behind. It's how it works.

And yes i'm not saying Gaara can't fly. I'm saying he never fights like that. It's not his fighting style, that's why i say i don't see it happening. He only fly when he has to fly another opponent who fight this way(Deidara)

Gaara does have sensor abilities because of the sand it's self Thts what's amazing about what he does with just one ability he makes tht one ability so versitle
He does fly like tht look it up naruto shippuden movie 3 naruto vs gaara

 

[Bogard]

Gaara does have sensor abilities because of the sand it's self Thts what's amazing about what he does with just one ability he makes tht one ability so versitle
He does fly like tht look it up naruto shippuden movie 3 naruto vs gaara

Sure, but he can only manage to do it when he spread his sand all over the battlefield and in our case, i don't know why he would do that, since he won't even think about it. About naruto shippuden movie3, it's a filler, right? So i don't think we can take it as an actual argument

 

[FizzyDrink]

Kakashi's been a beast in these recent chapters. Beating the seven swordsmen,Fighting off bijuus, keeping up with 6 gates Guy in speed and Fighting off gedo mazo. I think his even high kage level now. And could beat most if not all the kages.

Tsunade - The sharingon would let him see alll of Tsunade's movements so she wouldn't be able to land any hits on him and would easily kill her with lightning cutter sure she has Creation Rebirth so she cant die but if Kakashi hits her in her heart or lungs with the technique she'll die regardless.

Mei - Kakashi would counter her lava techs with his water techs and if she uses any water techs he would counter with his earth techs so Mei would be a goner aganist him.

A - Genjutsu seems to be his weakness so all he needs to do is put him in a genjutsu. Or he can make a clone to fight with A and then kamui him while his distracted.

Onoki - Bad match up for Onoki since Kakashi has the element advantage and i think Kakashi can dodge Onoki's jinton.

Gaara - Kakashi might not win aganist him he might beat Kakashi but Kakashi is very fast i think he could dodge Gaara's sand techs and i think Kakashi can counter sand hail or sand drizzle with lightning cutter or use earth style wall to block them.

Tsunade has the largest chance of losing to Kakashi because she has no way to counter Kamui without knowledge. But WITH knowledge on Kamui (which she has in the manga), she I think could avoid it. She has much more speed than you give her credit for, and she has massive wide area attacks with which to capture Kakashi as well. On top of that, she has a boss summon that can shoot a MASSIVE stream of acid, and protect Tsunade from Kamui if necessary. But yeah, she is his best bet at winning, but I still give her the overall edge 55-60/100 wins.

You are so wrong with your counters against Mei it's ridiculous. Kakashi does not have the chakra to create techniques large enough to stop Mei's attacks. And Mei's mist will make it so that Kakashi can't see her (no Kamui)...and so that she can easily melt him. Mei takes this one for sure.

A is too fast for Kamui, and if Kakashi can't focus long enough to cast Kamui, he can't focus long enough to cast a genjutsu. Kakashi dies fairly quickly, a clone won't help at all.

Sasuke is faster than Kakashi, and would have been killed by a small jinton if Tobi hadn't saved him. Kakashi has no chance to escape it, and Oonoki would make quick work of Kakashi.

Gaara's sand is DEFINITELY too fast for Kakashi, and since he can make sand out of the ground, there is no way Kakashi can escape the earth he's standing on. Gaara's sand can also provide a simple cover for Kamui. Gaara takes this one for sure as well.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Copying myself from a VM conversation, in regards to A/Mei/Onoki:

Vs A/4th Raikage - I'm not sure Kakashi would be able to take this one. A's speed is ridiculous, especially upon using raiton armor. While I assume there's a possibility of a similar scenario like what happened when Sasuke fought him, where Kakashi is given an opportunity to strike him with a raikiri, but while Raikiri is a more powerful form of chidori, I'm not sure it'd penetrate enough to kill A.

Bunshin feints aren't likely to work. A raiton kage bunshin probably wouldn't even effect A, and even if Kakashi just uses a regular one, A's reflexes are fast enough to react to any "sneak attack" Kakashi performs. While I believe kamui can be an instant kill if Kakashi wants it to be, that won't really matter as he won't even be able to see Raikage long enough to even activate his MS.

I think Kakashi would give A some difficulty, but A would take it.

Vs Onoki - Kakashi is a really bad matchup for Onoki. Kakashi's bunshin feats are 2nd to none in this manga, and all it would take is Onoki using dust release just once for Kakashi to fool him with a bunshin and engage in to a taijutsu altercation, which given Onoki's old age and back issues, he's likely not very capable of defending himself in, not against elite ninjas, anyway, or even end his life with raikiri.

Kakashi's strategy of figuring out his opponent with bunshins before engaging in battles is the perfect counter for Onoki, as given what dust release does, I'm not sure he'd even notice the fact that it's a kage bunshin after using it, which wouldn't really matter anyway, as Kakashi's speed blitzing feats are more than sufficient to get Onoki.

Just a really bad matchup for Onoki, Kakashi would likely take this.

Vs Mei - I find this one interesting. A battle between two ninjutsu masters. The relatively slow speed of lava release would allow Kakashi time to avoid it, though I'm interested in how he would combat acid mist. If the fight were inside an enclosed area, it could spell doom for Kakashi, but if it's out in the open, there's ways for him to avoid it and counter attack, again going back to his doton skills. but given her lava release, we can assume she's capable of digging underground just like Kakashi, given lava release requires doton.

Kakashi's best bet is to engage in CQC right off the bat in order to avoid turning this in to having to fight lava and acid mist. Bunshin feints would definitely be key here, IMO.

Restricting kamui, Kakashi's best way to win is like I said earlier, engage her in taijutsu and defeat her that way. Mei's best way to win is to keep her distance with using acid mist and lava, and if neccesary, using Hiding In Mist.

Allowing Kamui, if Mei has no knowledge of it, it could get tricky for her. She would most definitely need to use Hiding In Mist at that point, to nullify his sharingan, though we have no clue if she's skilled in silent killing or not, so it could hurt her just as much as Kakashi at that point, maybe even her more if Kakashi can get her scent to his nindogs.

It'd be an interesting, almost 50/50 fight, IMO.

Personally, I think, at this point, basing off the fact(well, not fact, but assumption, lol) that this stamina boost is not just plot no jutsu, that it's about like this:

Kakashi = Mei
Kakashi > Onoki(Onoki overall is better, I feel, but Kakashi is the perfect counter)
Kakashi < A
Kakashi </= Tsunade
Kakashi < Gaara

 

[FizzyDrink]

Gaara never fights this way for the obvious reason that he needs to be on the ground to control the sand on the ground and use it to make his techniques. But personally i don't see what Gaara could do against this:

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If he gets this attack, his sand will be weaker and it will be difficult in the rest of the fight

Personally, I don't see what Kakashi can do against this:

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[Bogard]

Personally, I don't see what Kakashi can do against this:

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That's when we suppose Gaara has time to create that amount of sand, cuz what you forget is that to do what he did at that moment takes time since he needs to mix his sand with the ground. Kakashi has enough time to kill him even before something like this happen.

And eventhen, Suiton>Sand. So it could be a perfect counter for that. Even if it doesn't counter all that, it could reduce the damage. He has already shown that his doton technique would be a perfect counter to incoming attacks like this. He could even quickly catch Gaara easily from underground exactly like he did against Itachis katon:

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