yeah that s why he s fighting longer than the other kages ( 2 days non stop ) against the 7 sowrdsman and then against the strongest villain and he didn t show any sign of chakra exhaustion
Gaara and onooki has been fighting longer then him if not same time and they've been fighting stronger opponents and Kakashi had guy as well as a whole division to help him ppl tend to forget tht
Gaara had to send his division back because they weren't near ready for the destruction power he was about to face
Onooki had to assist gaara
Kakashi battle didn't even get any screen time (or print time u could call it) because its irrelevant there was no point it other then giving Kakashi something to do so the Kakashi fans Dnt get panties in a wad
Your statement underestimates the power of the Kages. First, we do not know the true extent of the Kages' abilities. Second, we've, in recent chapters, only seen the Kages test their abilities against transcendent opponents, like Madara, for example. We have yet to see Kakashi face an opponent on par with a character such as Madara. How would Kakashi fare in a fight against Madara? I doubt that he would do any better than the Kages. I would wager that he would do worst. The closest opponents to Madara that Kakashi has fought has been Itachi and Pain (they are no where close to Madara btw), both opponents either left Kakashi hospitalized in critical condition for an extended period of time or killed Kakashi. Yes, Kakashi is a powerful ninja, just not against all ninjas. Also, Kakashi is now outclassed by his pupils (Naruto and Sasuske).
Also, a water technique may counter a lava technique, but that logic depends on which ninjas are casting the water and lava techniques because the techniques are only as powerful as their users.
Kakashi's been a beast in these recent chapters. Beating the seven swordsmen,Fighting off bijuus, keeping up with 6 gates Guy in speed and Fighting off gedo mazo. I think his even high kage level now. And could beat most if not all the kages.
Tsunade - The sharingon would let him see alll of Tsunade's movements so she wouldn't be able to land any hits on him and would easily kill her with lightning cutter sure she has Creation Rebirth so she cant die but if Kakashi hits her in her heart or lungs with the technique she'll die regardless.
Mei - Kakashi would counter her lava techs with his water techs and if she uses any water techs he would counter with his earth techs so Mei would be a goner aganist him.
A - Genjutsu seems to be his weakness so all he needs to do is put him in a genjutsu. Or he can make a clone to fight with A and then kamui him while his distracted.
Onoki - Bad match up for Onoki since Kakashi has the element advantage and i think Kakashi can dodge Onoki's jinton.
Gaara - Kakashi might not win aganist him he might beat Kakashi but Kakashi is very fast i think he could dodge Gaara's sand techs and i think Kakashi can counter sand hail or sand drizzle with lightning cutter or use earth style wall to block them.
I'm in my fanboy mode so **** YEAH MAN!
I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All except for the Raikage, I think he'd be hardest kage to beat out of all em. With his speed and strength Kakashi defintiely would have his hands full with him.
Major Note: Sorry NB I'm letting my fanboyism take over my logical thinking right b/c got dammit Kakashi is taking care of bussiness on the field. + rep man.
i love kakashi but he couldnt take gaara and onoki and A might be able to put out of victory as well though i believe kakashi could take A because of intelligence he is not likely going to be able to counter A's speed the others i think he would win
Have you been here there's alot of horrible troll threads. Mines was well thought out i took there abilities into account and how Kakashi counters them.
Tsunade - You just listed all the stuff she can do but you didn't list how Kakashi counters them.
Mei - Sharingon sees though mist and he can use water release to get rid of the acid.
A - You really think Kakashi's just going to stand there and let him Lariat him? If he tried that he would be a big target for Kakashi's kamui.
Onoki - Your just saying instant this instant that without taking into account how Kakashi dodges it his very fast was able to keep up with 6 gates Guy. All hiis earth techs get destroyed by lightning cutter.
Garra - Would probadly win i even admited that in the thread. But it wont be a easy win.
I agree with mostly everything except A the amatratsu couldn't cetch him both koumi and amatratsu (and mokoton) are instantaneous jutsu theyre all around same speed sasuke had to surround his Susanno with black flames so unless Kakashi could make kaumi around his body then A would simply dodge and attack (mind Kakashi is tired or visibly winded after using it)
A wins this Kakashi doesn't have stamina or chakra to take him out
As for keeping up with guy 6 gates Thts plot seriously it stated in manga he couldn't go past 2nd gate so yeah Thts just the freaking plot or guy and Kakashi working as a team and guy slowing down so Kakashi could keep up cuz Thts not possible
Onooki has the Power to dust release entire terrain (as he was about to dust release turtle island) u could argue tht he's never done it but them remember he made a cube the size to capture 25 susanno's when not even in full chakra reserves so Kakashi can't escape tht he has no chance against onooki
Gaara would rape him ur argument is lighting over gaara sand but remember it took 4 Susanno swords tO get through his recent defense his sand is extremely fast as well as his reaction speed Kakashi doesn't know anything about this current gaara he only k ows what he's seen from chunin exams gaara's sand supply tht he carries is a mini desert in its self (look back when he was goonna fight sasuke at kage summit or when he attacked his daddy) now add all this with te ability to fly and create more sand while attacking and defending at same time gaara is too much for Kakashi not to mention he has the most chakra and stamina among the kages (or at least tied with A)
Also ppl Kakashi will always have more experience then gaara because he's older tht doesn't matter in a fight its honestly on how u fight as gaara gets older and gains expirence so does Kakashi to me gaara tech has more expirence this is both their first wars Kakashi yes has been fighting 7 SMOM but gaara has been fighting kages who have if not more then onooki the same amount of expirence (onooki has more expirence then anyone on allied forces) and he's beaten them so expirence doesn't matter to me cuz one person is always gonna b older then the other and mind u gaara has been fighting madara and 5 Susanno's
He can beat Mei for those who say no and lava would crush him kindly go back to manga cuz Karin (red head uzimaki almost as useless as Sakura ) was able to dodge it
I can't figure out all this hype surrounding Kakashi atm.
He's not done anything less than what his reputation would lead you to believe him being capable of.
We saw glimpses of it during his fight with Deva and Asura path, and now he's finally shown completely why his reputation is on the level that it is, but this is nothing we shouldn't expect.
I can't figure out all this hype surrounding Kakashi atm.
He's not done anything less than what his reputation would lead you to believe him being capable of.
We saw glimpses of it during his fight with Deva and Asura path, and now he's finally shown completely why his reputation is on the level that it is, but this is nothing we shouldn't expect.
It's more about his chakra level. It seems to have increased a lot, and Kakashi with a lot chakra is a completely different character since he could use much more techniques
Gaara would rape him ur argument is lighting over gaara sand but remember it took 4 Susanno swords tO get through his recent defense his sand is extremely fast as well as his reaction speed Kakashi doesn't know anything about this current gaara he only k ows what he's seen from chunin exams gaara's sand supply tht he carries is a mini desert in its self (look back when he was goonna fight sasuke at kage summit or when he attacked his daddy) now add all this with te ability to fly and create more sand while attacking and defending at same time gaara is too much for Kakashi not to mention he has the most chakra and stamina among the kages (or at least tied with A)
Also ppl Kakashi will always have more experience then gaara because he's older tht doesn't matter in a fight its honestly on how u fight as gaara gets older and gains expirence so does Kakashi to me gaara tech has more expirence this is both their first wars Kakashi yes has been fighting 7 SMOM but gaara has been fighting kages who have if not more then onooki the same amount of expirence (onooki has more expirence then anyone on allied forces) and he's beaten them so expirence doesn't matter to me cuz one person is always gonna b older then the other and mind u gaara has been fighting madara and 5 Susanno's
He can beat Mei for those who say no and lava would crush him kindly go back to manga cuz Karin (red head uzimaki almost as useless as Sakura ) was able to dodge it
It's more about his chakra level. It seems to have increased a lot, and Kakashi with a lot chakra is a completely different character since he could use much more techniques
It's all thanks to plot. People forget every single ninja alive has been fighting for the exact same amount of time as Kakashi. Granted, Kakashi has been doing a little more excruciating work, but everyone in this war has had incredible stamina boosts. Nothing worth noting.
Gaara would rape him ur argument is lighting over gaara sand but remember it took 4 Susanno swords tO get through his recent defense his sand is extremely fast as well as his reaction speed Kakashi doesn't know anything about this current gaara he only k ows what he's seen from chunin exams gaara's sand supply tht he carries is a mini desert in its self (look back when he was goonna fight sasuke at kage summit or when he attacked his daddy) now add all this with te ability to fly and create more sand while attacking and defending at same time gaara is too much for Kakashi not to mention he has the most chakra and stamina among the kages (or at least tied with A)
Also ppl Kakashi will always have more experience then gaara because he's older tht doesn't matter in a fight its honestly on how u fight as gaara gets older and gains expirence so does Kakashi to me gaara tech has more expirence this is both their first wars Kakashi yes has been fighting 7 SMOM but gaara has been fighting kages who have if not more then onooki the same amount of expirence (onooki has more expirence then anyone on allied forces) and he's beaten them so expirence doesn't matter to me cuz one person is always gonna b older then the other and mind u gaara has been fighting madara and 5 Susanno's
He can beat Mei for those who say no and lava would crush him kindly go back to manga cuz Karin (red head uzimaki almost as useless as Sakura ) was able to dodge it
I agree that in the desert, Gaara would be hard to deal with, but in other circumstances Kakashi will beat him without too much problems i think. He is much more faster than him(who is even a static fighter). Raikiri could go through his doton defense. He can even use lightning chain to cut Gaara and his defense, he uses KB as feints, could even catch Gaara from underground. He possess suiton jutsus that could be really dangerous for Gaara and his sand. In reality, he has a lot of ways that could help him to catch Gaara and finish him without even mentioning the fact he is smart as well(probably one of the smartest ninja in the manga)
It's all thanks to plot. People forget every single ninja alive has been fighting for the exact same amount of time as Kakashi. Granted, Kakashi has been doing a little more excruciating work, but everyone in this war has had incredible stamina boosts. Nothing worth noting.
Not at all, you forget the fights are already finished in other battlefields, so they are not even continuing fighting currently. You are also forgetting people like Neji who could only barely stand after one day fighting fodder Zetsus, etc
I agree to some extent, he could beat some of them but not all. He could beat gaara unless gaara is in the dessert. Tsunade is debatable not that he cant own her its just that ultimate regen technique would be a problem. Mei has no chance whatsoever from what i have seen. oonoki is possible but only if he is having back problems. A im sad to say he has the least chance against kakashi mainly uses lightning techs and A has that awesome lightning shield or whatever so i dont see many of kakashis techs affecting him then again im not kakashi.
What would happen if he used suiton of A would A electrocute himself im not sure. Lastly id like to add that compared to all the kage kakashi is soooooooooooo much more smarter and i believe thats what would give him the edge against them. Considering the amount of techniques he has and like you said how well he has been doing in the manga so far A is the one i would say he stands least chance against mainly cause of insane speed and that lightning body armour he has. The rest is entirely possible and mei is a 90 percent chance of victory for kakashi
Kakashi and Gai surely have reached kage-lvl or maybe above.
5 Kage vs Madara, Madara toying with them and still doesn't want to take them seriously.
Team Naruto vs Tobi & 6bijuus, Tobi is in more desperate condition than team Naruto.
If we assume that Tobi with 6 bijuus somehow equals Madara then Kakashi who is holding his own against Tobi quite brilliantly is somehow stronger than any kage...
Probably because he's fighting the strongest character in the series after the SO6P? You're trying to say that kakashi and gai are making the real difference? Please...
Not at all, you forget the fights are already finished in other battlefields, so they are not even continuing fighting currently. You are also forgetting people like Neji who could only barely stand after one day fighting fodder Zetsus, etc
The point is most ninja have had extremely long, extensive fights that most would not usually be capable of, such as Shikamaru.
Not to mention, people overestimate what all Kakashi has actually done. He didn't singlehandedly take out the 7 swordsmand. He had an extremely large amount of people there with him, most importantly Gai.
Kakashi stated that he was still worried about his chakra levels, but that was forever ago when he created his clone to use the lightning chain. Just goes to show that it's plot that continues to kick in for him.
If you want to praise him for anything, praise him for finally living up to his reputation. It took him like 500 chapters to do it, but he finally has. I thought the Deva/Asura fight was the only glimpse we were ever going to get of his full "power/abilities", but Kishi has finally done him justice.
Probably because he's fighting the strongest character in the series after the SO6P? You're trying to say that kakashi and gai are making the real difference? Please...
I agree that in the desert, Gaara would be hard to deal with, but in other circumstances Kakashi will beat him without too much problems i think. He is much more faster than him(who is even a static fighter). Raikiri could go through his doton defense. He can even use lightning chain to cut Gaara and his defense, he uses KB as feints, could even catch Gaara from underground. He possess suiton jutsus that could be really dangerous for Gaara and his sand. In reality, he has a lot of ways that could help him to catch Gaara and finish him without even mentioning the fact he is smart as well(probably one of the smartest ninja in the manga)
Not at all, you forget the fights are already finished in other battlefields, so they are not even continuing fighting currently. You are also forgetting people like Neji who could only barely stand after one day fighting fodder Zetsus, etc
I agree lighting can beat sand but ur acting as if it just shredds through the only time we seen gaara fight a lightning user is when he faught sasuke fought tht girl (there's also the possibility gaara can do what he did to tht girl to kakashi) and when he intervened between sasuke and raikage and when he hid his sand in lightning water to bound madara (Mei and gaara combo)
Raikage lighting didn't do nothing to it
Mei didn't do nothing to it
Te girl did stuff but he used lighting against her to beat her
Sasuke was the only one tht we've seen pierced through gaara defense actually and when he did it it took him so long for the chidori to go through not to mention his hand got stuck and he had to use chidori to get it out (go back to the fight)
My point was gaara has expirence with lightning users and he's not stupid he knows lightning has advantage so when he's in sky how is Kakashi gonna hit him lightning shooting it at him hasn't been effective against gaara if so raikage would've just went through gaara sand am I wrong. Lightning doesn't it slice it like butter it penetrates but takes awhile and gaara has so much sand tht he will be attacking Kakashi while doing tht I doubt Kakashi would ever get a clean shot on gaara after what happened to him and sasuke gaara let sasuke attack him with chidori he could've just made the ball spiky cuz he can see through 3rd eye but no he at te time never been hit so he thought it was no big deal now he has experience with them
This current gaara beats Kakashi mid difficulty not high I'm sorry Kakashi can't go toe to toe with gaara he doesn't have chakra or stamina for it plus gaara go air borne he won't have no way to get to him gaara can also grab his legs from under ground or if he just do a sand imperial funeral tht move itself changes and takes up whole terrain Kakashi won't be able to survive it
Gaara can create a desert or is ppl forgetting tht I'm so tired of ppl saying Kakashi can beat gaara but if in Desert no
Gaara beats Kakashi with or without a desert
The point is most ninja have had extremely long, extensive fights that most would not usually be capable of, such as Shikamaru.
Not to mention, people overestimate what all Kakashi has actually done. He didn't singlehandedly take out the 7 swordsmand. He had an extremely large amount of people there with him, most importantly Gai.
Kakashi stated that he was still worried about his chakra levels, but that was forever ago when he created his clone to use the lightning chain. Just goes to show that it's plot that continues to kick in for him.
If you want to praise him for anything, praise him for finally living up to his reputation. It took him like 500 chapters to do it, but he finally has. I thought the Deva/Asura fight was the only glimpse we were ever going to get of his full "power/abilities", but Kishi has finally done him justice.
You're right and if you read my previous posts, i've never said he had beaten 7swordsmen alone, but i believe he played a great part just when you pay attention of what he said before we skipped into other battlefields. I believe that from what i've seen on this pic:
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, Kakashi and Gai were the one who did the great job dealing with swordsmens while Lee was there to protect Sai while he make his drawing to seal them.
Yes, he had a great division behind him, but if you remember, they didn't did that much. They were almost rapped by swordsmen if Kakashi didn't intervened with a good plan to deal against Zabuza and his hidden mist jutsu.
It's like in other battlefields like Gaaras for example. Generally they are only fodders who are there to show the opponent power. Even if they played a roll i personally think, they didn't did that much. That's why i think that the one who did the greatest job were Kakashi and Gai who where fighting in the front, Lee who was protecting Sai and Sai who was there to seal them after they were defeated
I agree lighting can beat sand but ur acting as if it just shredds through the only time we seen gaara fight a lightning user is when he faught sasuke fought tht girl (there's also the possibility gaara can do what he did to tht girl to kakashi) and when he intervened between sasuke and raikage and when he hid his sand in lightning water to bound madara (Mei and gaara combo)
Raikage used a Kick. It's different from Raikiri which pierce through things.
And you also forget his suiton jutsu. Suiton is a bad thing for Gaaras sand. Of course, i'm not saying it would be that easy, but i think Kakashi has great chances to deal with him
You're right and if you read my previous posts, i've never said he had beaten 7swordsmen alone, but i believe he played a great part just when you pay attention of what he said before we skipped into other battlefields. I believe that from what i've seen on this pic:
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, Kakashi and Gai were the one who did the great job dealing with swordsmens while Lee was there to protect Sai while he make his drawing to seal them.
Yes, he had a great division behind him, but if you remember, they didn't did that much. They were almost rapped by swordsmen if Kakashi didn't intervened with a good plan to deal against Zabuza and his hidden mist jutsu.
It's like in other battlefields like Gaaras for example. Generally they are only fodders who are there to show the opponent power. Even if they played a roll i personally think, they didn't did that much. That's why i think that the one who did the greatest job were Kakashi and Gai who where fighting in the front, Lee who was protecting Sai and Sai who was there to seal them after they were defeated
Raikage used a Kick. It's different from Raikiri which pierce through things.
And you also forget his suiton jutsu. Suiton is a bad thing for Gaaras sand. Of course, i'm not saying it would be that easy, but i think Kakashi has great chances to deal with him
I agree kakashi deffinitly could beat all the kages, but they way you went about explianing it should of been better. That way youd get less negative feedback.
