Orochimaru will take over Madara's Body

[Djokovic]

Orochimaru failed to take over sasuke's body using a technique that the sharingan can counter. However orochimaru came close to taking over sasuke during his fight with itachi, he was always there waiting patiently to take over sasuke. Yes with the curse mark oro lives within his victims and he can overcome madara.

Madara countering edo tensei is a different scenario where he knew the seals. That is completely different to this

Okay, I'll play your little game.


When does Orochimaru starts taking over?

When the curse mark seal has been overused by the victim, right?
Anko is the perfect example why Orochimaru lost interest in her. And ofcourse after fueling the curse mark the victim has to be low on chakra in order for Orochimaru to take over.
None of the 2 factors will ever affect Madara.

Madara will never use the curse mark seal, because he doesnt need its power, nor will he ever run out of chakra in his current state.

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so you're wrong if you think Oro can take over Uchiha Madara.

 

[Rand al'Thor]

awesome theory..makes sense..U_U

 

[siyo]

Lmao bet i got you day dreaming already. Hope kishi breaks your heart though xd



If this isnt the case, id go back to mocking oro so dont accept my opology quiet yet

Nah, it would be awesome though. All I know is, Orochimaro has remained relevant throughout the entire storyline and he is by far the greatest villain but, Kishi deciding not to troll him for minute, or two, would be a nice change of events.

This is idea is still far-fecthed though, Sasuke could’ve received the totsuka sword from Itachi and therefore would be able to release Orochimaro himself it would also explain why Sasuke knew Orochimaro was still alive.

 

[Draegod]

Good Theory Bro, i just (probably minutes after you posted a similar thread) Posted a similar thread on oru. Great Minds think alike i suppose. haha

Glad to see you give him props. I wish more fans weren't stubborn and would be as fair as you are.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Yep highly likely... but somehow I doubt it. Because kishi always screws a lot of things up.

Also,how the fu*k can he take over Madara hes OP as f*k. Plot hax maybe?

 

[Melizzle]

Welcome brother

*embraces you tightly*

I always had faith that'd you'd see the light! Good catch on Madara grabbing his neck! I thought he was just stretching or something cos he's about to do work lol. I never gave up on my boy Oro and let' hope this all comes true!!

 

[Blunt]

Wow great post Blaze, really explained and gave some good details. I support this theory.

 

[Blaze Release]

Okay, I'll play your little game.

When does Orochimaru starts taking over?

When the curse mark seal has been overused by the victim, right?
Anko is the perfect example why Orochimaru lost interest in her. And ofcourse after fueling the curse mark the victim has to be low on chakra in order for Orochimaru to take over.
None of the 2 factors will ever affect Madara.

Actually once the curse seal has been placed on you, the process starts and the moe you release it the more this process increases. Note however that i described 3 ways in which oro's chakra could be in madara. The first was the cm2. The second was through anko's seal which kabuto absorbed to bind him and the third was oro's dna which was somehow added to madara during his enhancement.

Madara will never use the curse mark seal, because he doesnt need its power, nor will he ever run out of chakra in his current state.

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so you're wrong if you think Oro can take over Uchiha Madara.

You have allowed me to hit a stumbling block when you said madar awill never run out of chakra because of his edo state therefore what nearly happened to sasuke when he run out chakra, could not possible happen to madara. But what if i told you that the transformation is in process?;

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Take it you've noticed the weird lines around his eyes. Look at oro's aswell;

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Crazy perhaps but take a closer look at madara's eyes. He has similar marks to oro

Nah, it would be awesome though. All I know is, Orochimaro has remained relevant throughout the entire storyline and he is by far the greatest villain but, Kishi deciding not to troll him for minute, or two, would be a nice change of events.

Kishi always gives a character want he wants in the end, but trolls them when their fanbase gets excited you never know. A plot twist was madara knowing the seals of edo tensei and broke itachi's fanbase's hearts. Only fair oro gets what he wants and he also gets his heart broken

This is idea is still far-fecthed though, Sasuke could’ve received the totsuka sword from Itachi and therefore would be able to release Orochimaro himself it would also explain why Sasuke knew Orochimaro was still alive.

I did think that when itachi told him to look into his eyes he transferred the weapons to him, but that is another theory all together. Also even if sasuke has the sword, do you really think he would let oro out (if he can), or maybe if he is the master of the weapons now he can go and talk to him inside the jar although i doubt he'd be happy to see sasuke let alone corporate xd

 

[Djokovic]

Actually once the curse seal has been placed on you, the process starts and the moe you release it the more this process increases. Note however that i described 3 ways in which oro's chakra could be in madara. The first was the cm2. The second was through anko's seal which kabuto absorbed to bind him and the third was oro's dna which was somehow added to madara during his enhancement.



You have allowed me to hit a stumbling block when you said madar awill never run out of chakra because of his edo state therefore what nearly happened to sasuke when he run out chakra, could not possible happen to madara. But what if i told you that the transformation is in process?;

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Take it you've noticed the weird lines around his eyes. Look at oro's aswell;

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The proces does not proceed, a good example would be Anko. She refused to use it and has not shown the same eye development. I mean, Sasuke has clearly overused it and even with Orochimaru inside, his appeance didn't change.

We don't know if Madara has the seal and we surely can't say anything about his shadow round the eye. So far there is no proof Madara has the cm nor can we prove he can be taken by Oro.

 

[Blaze Release]

The proces does not proceed, a good example would be Anko. She refused to use it and has not shown the same eye development. I mean, Sasuke has clearly overused it and even with Orochimaru inside, his appeance didn't change.

We don't know if Madara has the seal and we surely can't say anything about his shadow round the eye. So far there is no proof Madara has the cm nor can we prove he can be taken by Oro.

You have gotten past the curse mark theory possibly being on madara but thats the only thing you dwell on. As we saw with kabuto the curse mark is not the only way that orochimaru can take over one's body. The enhancements to madara, kabuto could've possibly added oro's dna no different to what he did to himself to madara or the binding technique which required oro's chakra. I do believe oro's chakra is somehow in madara, whether he would succeed in the takeover idk

 

[Ramenamaterasu]

+++++ Good job. This is absolutley a strong and very accurate theory totally agree with you, nice job again!


For those who brings up the Sasuke sharingan vs Oro fight is very esaliy explained. Heres why:

When sasuke ambushed oro first off he wasnt prepared and he was in a weaker state thats why he lost so easily to oro, oh little to easy you think? Second oros preparations of his plan was in all not ready to take grasp on because both he and kabuto were not ready for the revival of Madara also due to their power status they could not conquer madara at such time because as I said he could not dance with sasuke atm. But now both kabuto has considerbarle powers and I think oro will take advantage of it somehow.

Also noticing ( sorry if i missed this in the thread post but wanted to bring it up ) There is a episode were everyone must be fimiliar with is when anko is having a conversation with oro about '' revivial '' and '' the white snake '' and to me it speaks very clearly how this now have a conncention > Anko still alive with curse mark > reviving oro > white snake kabuto > oro supress.

Also I do believe everything is going according to kabutos and oros plan ( just a little more diffrently ) because now sasuke wants to meet oro and because kabuto held anko alive inorder to achieve this plan I think its more possible.

I strongly support this theory again and sorry if i missed something, point me of if i spelled something wrong, Thanks!

 

[Djokovic]

You have gotten past the curse mark theory possibly being on madara but thats the only thing you dwell on. As we saw with kabuto the curse mark is not the only way that orochimaru can take over one's body. The enhancements to madara, kabuto could've possibly added oro's dna no different to what he did to himself to madara or the binding technique which required oro's dna. I do believe oro's chakra is somehow in madara, whether he would succeed in the takeover idk

Since Orochimaru can't overcome Kabuto how will he take over Madara? :shrug: even when Orochimaru was inside Sasuke (normal sharingan) he couldn't take over. You're extremely overrating Orochimaru here. That bastard does not know the meaning of death, but that's all there is to him.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

This seems very possible indeed. But not only did Itachi stop him, but Sasuke with the curse mark was able to stop him, before he even have the MS. He had the power to stop him and to think he could take over Madara..... idk

Besides that it seems very reasonable

But what if the reason why Kabuto or Orochimaru needs Sasukes body is because it could possibly be easier to take over Madaras body that way?

Cause in that ritual Sasuke use a genjutsu last time to stop orochimaru, Madara could probaly do the same thing with a genjutsu too, which is why he needs Sasuke perhaps

But i dont know how he could get Sasuke now though

 

[Simplified]

I always said Oro would be back, glad someone reliable agrees. +Rep for this theory, I'm already craving next week's chapter.

 

[siyo]

Kishi always gives a character want he wants in the end, but trolls them when their fanbase gets excited you never know. A plot twist was madara knowing the seals of edo tensei and broke itachi's fanbase's hearts. Only fair oro gets what he wants and he also gets his heart broken

Speaking of breaking Itachi’s fansbase’s heart, I totally forgot mentioning the fact that I owned you, owaijj and others in the “healthy “Itachi debate. You were so confident in Edo Itachi being a true representation of his living self bar regeneration, despite the databook stating otherwise, you simply wouldn’t listen to reason.

I don’t want to say I told you so but… I told you so .:noc:

Anyway, every villain loses so there’s a chance he will get trolled again; however it can’t be worse than getting sealed right after you use your last energy, transforming into Hydra- a technique stronger than edo tensei .The best scenario would be him killing a few, important, individuals display some much needed feats even mess up some plans before getting stomped/sealed/defeated.

I called the madara incident a regular ass-pull, it’d made sense had he used rinne tensei instead of using something Tobirama, the inventor, didn’t even perform when he was fighting his beloved student. I will not even be surprised be surprised if Tobi is some device Orochimaro created after what Kishi pulled last week.

I did think that when itachi told him to look into his eyes he transferred the weapons to him, but that is another theory all together. Also even if sasuke has the sword, do you really think he would let oro out (if he can), or maybe if he is the master of the weapons now he can go and talk to him inside the jar although i doubt he'd be happy to see sasuke let alone corporate xd

Sasuke don’t give a f..k, he would confidently walk up to Orochimaro and demand some answers like he did against Deidara. Whether it would work (get information), if he even could, is another story since we all know Orochimaro is a very cunning individual.

Sasuke communicating via genjutsu would be very anti-climatic xd

 

[Blaze Release]

Speaking of breaking Itachi’s fansbase’s heart, I totally forgot mentioning the fact that I owned you, owaijj and others in the “healthy “Itachi debate. You were so confident in Edo Itachi being a true representation of his living self bar regeneration, despite the databook stating otherwise, you simply wouldn’t listen to reason.

I don’t want to say I told you so but… I told you so .:noc:

Anyway, every villain loses so there’s a chance he will get trolled again; however it can’t be worse than getting sealed right after you use your last energy, transforming into Hydra- a technique stronger than edo tensei .The best scenario would be him killing a few, important, individuals display some much needed feats even mess up some plans before getting stomped/sealed/defeated.

I called the madara incident a regular ass-pull, it’d made sense had he used rinne tensei instead of using something Tobirama, the inventor, didn’t even perform when he was fighting his beloved student. I will not even be surprised be surprised if Tobi is some device Orochimaro created after what Kishi pulled last week.

My memory might need rebooting but im certain you havent owed me in any discussion about healthy itachi. Id admit my heart was broken when madara said what he did, however i still believe that his illness stunned his stamina one way or another but this isnt the thread for it :noc:.

What actually troubled me was edo madara not going. I believe kishi just pulled something out of his ass to make madara stay. If madara knew of the seals and going by his personality he would've broken free from the very start and even hunted down the person who summoned him. The theory about mu summoning him therefore he would stay made more sense that madara knowing the seals. This also brings up plot holes like tobirama and hashirama not breaking free, but more importantly how does madara know the seals of tobirama's technique

Sasuke don’t give a f..k, he would confidently walk up to Orochimaro and demand some answers like he did against Deidara. Whether it would work (get information), if he even could, is another story since we all know Orochimaro is a very cunning individual.

Sasuke communicating via genjutsu would be very anti-climatic xd

Who knows, sasuke might do what itachi did to kabuto and get info through genjutsu that way. We all know how much oro loves the sharingan and the uchiha

Since Orochimaru can't overcome Kabuto how will he take over Madara? :shrug: even when Orochimaru was inside Sasuke (normal sharingan) he couldn't take over. You're extremely overrating Orochimaru here. That bastard does not know the meaning of death, but that's all there is to him.

Possibly because kabuto and sasuke both knew what was happening because they both absorbed oro on their own free will therefore they know what is going on, madara on the other hand. Also you say im overrating orochimaru?, lmao you dont know me very well if you think this.

 

[siyo]

My memory might need rebooting but im certain you havent owed me in any discussion about healthy itachi. Id admit my heart was broken when madara said what he did, however i still believe that his illness stunned his stamina one way or another but this isnt the thread for it :noc:

I'm pretty certain but fair enough

Who knows, sasuke might do what itachi did to kabuto and get info through genjutsu that way. We all know how much oro loves the sharingan and the uchiha

Don't count on it (perhaps you should).

 

[BloodSeed]

but this is not uchiha shippuden so he cant be the final villain. in a old story orochimaru was killed by susano(mythology). if you remember how orochimaru died from itachi and a small white snake slither his way to escape the fire from amaterasu that flies and burn the trees killed the white snake. it resembles that he cant escape the fire of amaterasu. uchiha will kill him

 

[Lightning Release]

It's a nice theory, but ee'll have to wait and see.. Even if Madara does have a curse mark, why hasn't Oro taken over his body yet? Or Anko's for that matter... Why wait....

 

[Dark Artist]

Finally Orochimaru is coming back

Tobi + Orochimaru > madara