if orochimaru summoned rinnegan madara and shishu would orochimaru have lost, plot

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

if orochimaru summoned madara and shishu do you think the third hokage could have beat them.

the other question is that hiruzen had to seal hashirama and tobirama in order for edo tensai to not be a overkill and making a hokage look bad do you think so.

I don't think hiruzen would win against a genjutsu master at this time and i think it was only to show and seal hashirama ability so is this the reason for hashirama and tobirama being summoned since they owuld make kabuto unstoppable.

it's more of a question that hashirama and tobirama being summoned as edo are worst than edo madara edo tenasi summon.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Yess because RDS beast ALL. And orochimaru did not lose he stabbed a sword through hiruzens back which prevented hiruzen from sealing him

Ask your self who had a funeral and who did we see in part 2

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Yess because RDS beast ALL. And orochimaru did not lose he stabbed a sword through hiruzens back which prevented hiruzen from sealing him

Ask your self who had a funeral and who did we see in part 2

orochimaru didn't lose but it ended for a tie in the hokage fight.

 

[Legendary Broly]

It was in the plot for Madara to be brought back later for a war, if he were to be brought back way back then I don't think there would of been much of a war
(maybe Shisui can still be brought back ! ^.^ .. but nah maybe not )
So yes It was mean't for Hiruzen to also be gotten rid of but die in a heroic way I'm assuming so we could see a new hokage
Dw Kishi knows what hes doing

 

[Rike Senju]

Nope..plot shield --> anybody so even if oro had them they still would have gotten sealed somehow.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Nope..plot shield --> anybody so even if oro had them they still would have gotten sealed somehow.

i mean if kabuto brought them back in the war, who could beat the first and second kokage's together it is too much.

It was in the plot for Madara to be brought back later for a war, if he were to be brought back way back then I don't think there would of been much of a war
(maybe Shisui can still be brought back ! ^.^ .. but nah maybe not )
So yes It was mean't for Hiruzen to also be gotten rid of but die in a heroic way I'm assuming so we could see a new hokage
Dw Kishi knows what hes doing

yea i thought so too.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Because of plot hiruzen would always seal the edo's if not the village would be ****ed. He probably would of held up a fight and sealed them in the end. If not he is a fail hokage so he has to seal them

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Because of plot hiruzen would always seal the edo's if not the village would be ****ed. He probably would of held up a fight and sealed them in the end. If not he is a fail hokage so he has to seal them

even though orochimaru binded them it sstill looked in the first and second hokage victory until the death god and orochimaru didn't know what to do when hiruzen bragged about the jutsu so maybe there was a weakness that orochimaru didn't know.

 

[Joon]

Q1. Plot is Plot. You cannot make changes for something that has already been in place. If we do change it than the Manga is change and none would make sense.

Q2. No

Q3. You could be right, because the only Genjutsu we seen were from Itachi and Kurenai. It was Plot that Hurizen escape Hashirama's Genjutsu. I don't know about that, but the Plot had to progress so Kishi probably made it that way.

Q4. Possible

 

[Rike Senju]

i mean if kabuto brought them back in the war, who could beat the first and second kokage's together it is too much.

yea i thought so too.

I was addressing your first question..and honestly I think it would have been harder to defeat the 2 senju brothers than madara because of their teamwork and not being cocky.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Q1. Plot is Plot. You cannot make changes for something that has already been in place. If we do change it than the Manga is change and none would make sense.

Q2. No

Q3. You could be right, because the only Genjutsu we seen were from Itachi and Kurenai. It was Plot that Hurizen escape Hashirama's Genjutsu. I don't know about that, but the Plot had to progress so Kishi probably made it that way.

Q4. Possible

i know but if he got the dna i don't think hiruzen would have won but you have a point.

i mean that if they were summoned in the current ninja war the hokage would be an overkill

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

I was addressing your first question..and honestly I think it would have been harder to defeat the 2 senju brothers than madara because of their teamwork and not being cocky.

madara has the rinnegan becuase he died with it.

so madara could have used it's abilities.

hiruzen was old so a shinrai tensai would have got him or any move.

 

[Rike Senju]

madara has the rinnegan becuase he died with it.

so madara could have used it's abilities.

hiruzen was old so a shinrai tensai would have got him or any move.

Like I said bro Plot shield --> anything.

 

[Respect Uchiha Madara]

Like I said bro Plot shield --> anything.

ok lol