Hiruzen is the strongest Kage to exist thus far

[MsEdwards]

Lol Gaara has that type of power to change the area and this was part 1 Gaara

Gaara was completely depleted just by moving enough sand to cover his village if you think that is enough change of the area for the world maps to be redrawn I think you better go enroll in a geography class

 

[Breed]

First of all, in the databook Jiraiya has 35.5 total points while Naruto has 26 total points, does it make any sense? A (Jiraiya) < B (Six Paths of Pain) and C (Naruto) > B (Six Paths of Pain) ==> C (Naruto) > A (Jiraiya).

This demonstrates that the databook is non-sense. Figure it out yourself, just because of some databook bullcrap it doesn't mean you can put this character above the Kages of the third generation.

Stop posting outdated information you noob. Part 1 Neji > Naruto at some point. So THAT MEANS NEJI > NARUTO NOW? IS THAT YOUR LOGIC? HASHIRAMA WOULD EAT THAT OLD FART AND SHIT HIM OUT. Wow, idiots on here, seriously :sy:​

Actually this guy is right, outdated information. The plot of a story changes with the time, the characters change, so everything is relative and remains that way.

 

[MsEdwards]

Also another thing I noticed in the anime of part one during the battle between the 3rd hokage and oro is that oro applied hand signs in order to get the edo kage to move. This to me shows that the binding of those edo's was much stricter then the one we see in the manga today and could raise argument that if oro was strictly controlling the 1st and 2nd hokage during that battle oro may not of had the capabilities or knowledge to unleash their full power. Just something to think about for all those people who think that little patch of trees is seriously the extent to the 1st hokages power and that the 3rd actually beat the first and second with a doton, a summon, shadow clones, an impressive sense of smell..., and the RdS

 

[lnvalid]

Hiruzen has beatn hashirama and tobirama already..nuff said
U might argue that hashirama didn't use all his KNOWN jutsus..but then how many did hiruzen use?..hiruzen countered all d attacks hashirama and tobirama used accordingly..he knew what they were capable of..If hashi used 5 jutsus,hiruzen countered it with 5 adequate jutsus..IF hashi went ahead to use 10 jutsus in that fight,hiruzen would have countered with 10 adequate jutsus too..
Hashi used wood,hiruzen countered with enma
Tobirama used suiton,hiruzen countered with doton
Tobirama used used genjustu,hiruzen counterd with keen sense of smell...

Go back to bed fanboy...

 

[YellowFang]

Tsunade can be good match against Hiruzen, coz others are just too much for him....

 

[Omnislash X SageMode]

OMG

he dosnt stand a chance against Ay the fourth raikage or the third raikage OR The gold and silver brothers OR Harshima OR Minato Or Garaa And the Mizukage Guy Who Uses Genjutsu Hiruzen cant even defeat Orochimaru Or Kabuto

The Odds of him defeatingg anyone of them are slim Very Very Very Slim-_-

:sy:
it...DOESNT help that your a fan of your avatar either....

Anyways
nah....gaara isnt seeing hiruzen...at least not his prime...gaara is just gaara...he is only at his top notch power in the desert...
otherwise no i dont see the hokage losing to him but i wouldnt doubt gaara cant fight him...hiruzen>gaara=medium difficulty

If orochi had to duel hiruzen without that 'barrier and didnt use 'edo tensei than orochi would lose..thats actually just how it is....hiruzen was at a huge
disadvantage and i cant believe ppl base that fight on EQUALITY....huge disadvantage on the hokages part...3 on 1 in a barrier

 

[Sarutobie]

Go back to bed fanboy...

Dude that's a logical explanation for that fight..guess you are too daft to comprehend it..

 

[Hipster Madara]

Hashirama > Hiruzen xd
/thread

 

[LeEvilTongue]

The Naruto.wikia is not written by the author but by people like you and me.

 

[Koibito]

Stop posting outdated information you noob. Part 1 Neji > Naruto at some point. So THAT MEANS NEJI > NARUTO NOW? IS THAT YOUR LOGIC? HASHIRAMA WOULD EAT THAT OLD FART AND SHIT HIM OUT. Wow, idiots on here, seriously :sy:​

I dont think that logic works in this situation but yeah, Hashi>Hiruzen

 

[KingHashirama]

The Naruto.wikia is not written by the author but by people like you and me.

Its more reliable then you and me.. ;]

 

[KingHashirama]

Nope he beat them
Technically twice with the paper bombs also

And Iruka said people reconize Hiruzen as the strongest Hokage and God of shinobi

If you read about Hiruzen you actually see the databook said he was still strongest at his time of death also

I have already read the data book... He was known as the strongest Kage of HIS TIME.. this was not his time but instead past it.

And also, Iruka stated that he is said to be the strongest Hokage konoha has seen.

And also, Hashirama has regeneration.. and tobirama could use water way better then what he showed..

Both of them just stood there taking hits instead of finishing of Sarutobi.. when oro started talking they had to stop and wait.. instead of just killing him. ;].

Also the winner is only the one who survives Oro survived.

 

[edgarmagician]

OMG

he dosnt stand a chance against Ay the fourth raikage or the third raikage OR The gold and silver brothers OR Harshima OR Minato Or Garaa And the Mizukage Guy Who Uses Genjutsu Hiruzen cant even defeat Orochimaru Or Kabuto

The Odds of him defeatingg anyone of them are slim Very Very Very Slim-_-

Now this is the dumbest thing I have ever read in here. None of those Kages stand a chane vs Hiruzen.

 

[Cronos]

Gaara was completely depleted just by moving enough sand to cover his village if you think that is enough change of the area for the world maps to be redrawn I think you better go enroll in a geography class

ehhh... Gaara had just been hit by mini bombs by Diedara, also he wasn't depleted, he moved all that sand in an instant and the only why he was defeated was because Diedara had minibombs in his sand...

 

[MsEdwards]

ehhh... Gaara had just been hit by mini bombs by Diedara, also he wasn't depleted, he moved all that sand in an instant and the only why he was defeated was because Diedara had minibombs in his sand...

I'm not arguing how Gaara was defeated, my argument is that it cost a great deal of chakra for Gaara to move all that sand over the village. Which it did because he was breathing heavy afterwards. (for the record the bombs hit Gaara after he saved the village, saving the village was his downfall in the fight because it cost himso much chakra and exhausted him) so the
Point of me stating that is that on the world map villages are unseen so Gaara could not cause enough damage to the terrain for the world maps to be redrawn. Madara and hashi can

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

fail lol

 

[Ryu sannin]

pls just look at my link!

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, is this enough!

Looks pretty damn fake to me. There is no indication that this is real. But even if we assume this to be real, Kishi says that yondaime and sandaime share the no 1 spot...

 

[minatoisagod]

don't know why you bring this up since most people will still have an opinion different you simply registered to the author centered reading of the manga. Other will go by reader response and some textual centered criticism. It kinda doesn't matter cause every criticism will have merit.

 

[Ryu sannin]

don't know why you bring this up since most people will still have an opinion different you simply registered to the author centered reading of the manga. Other will go by reader response and some textual centered criticism. It kinda doesn't matter cause every criticism will have merit.

so true

 

[tobikillnaruto]

just but it this way am the strongest kage thus far LOL