Why do people keep saying that Sasuke is no match for current Naruto?

[Gooner4life]

What the arrow lacks in power it makes up for in speed and acurracy so deflecitng a tbb is no problem.

MS genutsu works, it worked on bee because its too fast to escape. Bee only recovered quickly and countered while Sasuke was feeling recoil. Since he has EMS he dosent feel the recoil, he only bleeds.

The raikage can only dodge it because of his reflex, Naruto dosent have those reflexes.

There is no way of knowing but a TBB aimed well is far too much for Sasuke, a susan'o arrow well aimed would also do serious damage to Naruto so :shrug:

Sasuke cannot alter a victim's sense of time so if he actually want to do some damage he will have to have him in the genjutsu for time he wont be allowed.

He dodged the Raikage's fastest attack, something only the fourth has done. really slow reflexes (sarcasm)

 

[Οdin]

What the arrow lacks in power it makes up for in speed and acurracy so deflecitng a tbb is no problem.

MS genutsu works, it worked on bee because its too fast to escape. Bee only recovered quickly and countered while Sasuke was feeling recoil. Since he has EMS he dosent feel the recoil, he only bleeds.

The raikage can only dodge it because of his reflex, Naruto dosent have those reflexes.

1. This one will lead nowhere. You keep your opinion and I'll keep mine.

2. You need eye contact for MS genjutsu to work; Naruto knows not to look into an Uhciha's eyes. Also, recoil or no recoil... genjutsu won't make a difference.

3. Who said Naruto doesn't have reflexes equal or greater than the Raikage? From my understanding... you need very good reflexes if you have the kind of speed that Naruto has.

 

[Ninpou]

When Naruto unlocked bm his reflexes improved, he was able to slap away 5 tbb at point blank in an instant.

Susanoo arrow isn't doing shit tbh.

Intelect isn't a huge deal, Naruto has shown intellect in the way he fights e.g Kakuza, 3rd Raikge and several other moments.

Versatility doesn't matter so much and right now Sasuke is just ems spam.

Give me proof of the first statement, if Naruto can deflect 5 tbb by running past them, a susano arrow can definatly deflect one tbb.

You realise you basically just took what Sasuke had the edge in and said it wasnt relevent?

 

[naruttebayo]

wow hottest thread in no time :|

exactly , say something about sasuke the thread is gonna blow

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Give me proof of the first statement, if Naruto can deflect 5 tbb by running past them, a susano arrow can definatly deflect one tbb.

You realise you basically just took what Sasuke had the edge in and said it wasnt relevent?

Speculation at its best. :sy:

 

[Midday]

Give me proof of the first statement, if Naruto can deflect 5 tbb by running past them, a susano arrow can definatly deflect one tbb.

You realise you basically just took what Sasuke had the edge in and said it wasnt relevent?

If you want proof read the manga, his reflexes are on point. You really think susanoo arrow is going to trouble a tbb?

Right now Sasuke is one power up short of Naruto. when Naruto got km, Sasuke got ems but still hasn't shown much with it. It's not enough to take one bm.

 

[Roofy128]

Speculation at its best. :sy:

lol i know right xd

 

[MidKnight]

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I have already shown how kishi had made sasuke and naruto equal, but right now naruto is in the lead kishi always makes then surpass one another one at a time.

What part of Stonger in terms of PROWESS do you guys not understand? If prowess made you the superior character then please explain how Kakashi, Shikamaru, etc have defeated characters with superior prowess than them. U_U This logic also applies to Naruto vs Sasuke. Just because Naruto is superior in terms of overwelming prowess does NOT mean he can defeat Sasuke.

 

[Οdin]

Lmfao! We're fanboys because we put FACTS and EVIDENCE from the manga on the table instead of insulting the character and not mentioning all of their prowess? Lol.

*Sigh* U_U

-Yes, and regardless it is too fast and will kill naruto before he coould dream of using it

-Yes it will, Bee was caught in it.Releasing and being unaffected are 2 different things

- So your saying naruto will hit him on purpose? Lmao

1. Dream on.

2. Perfect jinchuriki are affected by genjutsu, but their Bijuu will release that genjutsu.

2. *Sigh* Read and interpret. I was explaining to you what Raikage did to Sasuke.

 

[Roofy128]

What part of Stonger in terms of PROWESS do you guys not understand? If prowess made you the superior character then please explain how Kakashi, Shikamaru, etc have defeated characters with superior prowess than them. U_U This logic also applies to Naruto vs Sasuke. Just because Naruto is superior in terms of overwelming prowess does NOT mean he can defeat Sasuke.

in fights naruto has shown he is smart (3rd raikage fight)

 

[Gooner4life]

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1.Regardless enton still worked

2. Okay, when naruto was doing RS training kakashi saw minato by looking at naruto? Does that make him Minato level? No.
2 people of equal speed can dodge each other, 1 dodge does not make one faster.

Again like the manga said. Not even Raikage V2

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And Ninpou

His strongest attack would have been V2 wouldn't it? :shrug: I said he is at least of equal speed. He is not faster than Minato but is at his level of speed, as he has a feat only Minato has. Naruto is not going to let himself be Enton'd is he and he has long range attacks so will not need close combat like the Raikage.

BTW, I am not suggesting Naruto would stomp Sasuke. They are pretty much equal with BM Naruto having the edge, and Sasuke will get a powerup to make this equal again.

 

[Loome]

You said he can handle Kyuubi mode.
How about BIJUU mode?

 

[Ninpou]

There is no way of knowing but a TBB aimed well is far too much for Sasuke, a susan'o arrow well aimed would also do serious damage to Naruto so :shrug:

Sasuke cannot alter a victim's sense of time so if he actually want to do some damage he will have to have him in the genjutsu for time he wont be allowed.

He dodged the Raikage's fastest attack, something only the fourth has done. really slow reflexes (sarcasm)

Bee didnt have time to escape paralysis genjustu so what makes you think Naruto will?
Doding it dosent make him faster.
One could dodge a bullet but that dosent make you faster than it.

1. This one will lead nowhere. You keep your opinion and I'll keep mine.

2. You need eye contact for MS genjutsu to work; Naruto knows not to look into an Uhciha's eyes. Also, recoil or no recoil... genjutsu won't make a difference.

3. Who said Naruto doesn't have reflexes equal or greater than the Raikage? From my understanding... you need very good reflexes if you have the kind of speed that Naruto has.

I dont see Naruto keeping that up. The recoil makes a big difference, in those 5 seconds that Naruto is recovering he could be hit by any of Sasukes atacks and if its Amaterasu its game over no doubt.

Having the seed dosent mean you have the reflex, Kakashis Raikiri required speed but he needed the sharingan to gain the relefex to complete it.

 

[Cerox0]

1. Dream on.

2. Perfect jinchuriki are affected by genjutsu, but their Bijuu will release that genjutsu.

2. *Sigh* Read and interpret. I was explaining to you what Raikage did to Sasuke.

1.Are you now saying Susano'o arrow is not faster then TBB?

2. No shit

3. I don't think you can count, regardless like I said at the end of the day Enton still works

 

[Cerox0]

His strongest attack would have been V2 wouldn't it? :shrug: I said he is at least of equal speed. He is not faster than Minato but is at his level of speed, as he has a feat only Minato has. Naruto is not going to let himself be Enton'd is he and he has long range attacks so will not need close combat like the Raikage.

BTW, I am not suggesting Naruto would stomp Sasuke. They are pretty much equal with BM Naruto having the edge, and Sasuke will get a powerup to make this equal again.

His fastest mode would have been V2 O_O

Nobody would let them self get enton'd, regardless battles are unpredictable and it would probably still happen.

 

[Οdin]

I dont see Naruto keeping that up. The recoil makes a big difference, in those 5 seconds that Naruto is recovering he could be hit by any of Sasukes atacks and if its Amaterasu its game over no doubt.

Having the seed dosent mean you have the reflex, Kakashis Raikiri required speed but he needed the sharingan to gain the relefex to complete it.

1. Game over? You do know that Amaterasu has at least a 4 second charge time?

2. Speed is nothing if you don't have the reflexes. You need reflexes to keep yourself coordinated and to be able to see what you're doing when traveling at such speeds. Honestly... stop talking about speed and reflexes. You don't know anything about Naruto's reflexes. From what I have seen... he can dodge Amaterasu.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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I have already shown how kishi had made sasuke and naruto equal, but right now naruto is in the lead kishi always makes then surpass one another one at a time.

^^^^^ rinnegan would make sasuke a perfect match up.

 

[Gooner4life]

Bee didnt have time to escape paralysis genjustu so what makes you think Naruto will?
Doding it dosent make him faster.
One could dodge a bullet but that dosent make you faster than it.


I dont see Naruto keeping that up. The recoil makes a big difference, in those 5 seconds that Naruto is recovering he could be hit by any of Sasukes atacks and if its Amaterasu its game over no doubt.

Having the seed dosent mean you have the reflex, Kakashis Raikiri required speed but he needed the sharingan to gain the relefex to complete it.

Naruto won't escape it, it will be released before it does any damage. This isn't Itachi we are talking about.

Who dodges bullets in real life anyway? Fair enough, but that whole fight showed that he was on par with the raikage's speed. If you look without bias you will agree. With BM he must be faster.

The sharingan doesn't improve reflexes. You need the sharingan as you need to be able to see counter attacks. You can't dodge what you can't see

 

[MidKnight]

in fights naruto has shown he is smart (3rd raikage fight)

That is irrelevant in this argument. It's obvious to EVERYONE that Sasuke has a far superior intellect than Naruto. But for some reason people seem to think that is not a MAJOR factor when it comes to Naruto vs Sasuke. U_U

 

[Cerox0]

1. Game over? You do know that Amaterasu has at least a 4 second charge time?

2. Speed is nothing if you don't have the reflexes. You need reflexes to keep yourself coordinated and to be able to see what you're doing when traveling at such speeds. Honestly... stop talking about speed and reflexes. You don't know anything about Naruto's reflexes. From what I have seen... he can dodge Amaterasu.

So could Raikage

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