[Predictions] Kishi has set the stage for Madara's Death

[2nd hokage]

i think it will take both naruto and sasuke to beat him and maybe he losses his eyes to them or one of them

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Using Izanami will seal away the sharingan that uses it. That would effectively mean that Sasuke would have to sacrifice:

• An Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan eyeball.
• Susanoo - He needs both eyes for this
• Amatera or Tsukuyomi - one or the other
• Blaze release - He needs both eyes for this too

I cant see Sasuke sacrificing all or any of these things all in the name of saving the JSA. Sasuke said the more he remembers his affection for Itachi the more hates Konoha. The JSA wants to kill Sasuke and Sasuke has made his attempts to Kill the Kages of the JSA.

Also, Sasuke is still destined to fight Naruto. Its the Toad sage's prophesy.

Sasuke (with one sharingan) vs Naruto (stronger than he is now)​

Is it just me or does that match-up seem like a joke?

I hear you loud and clear bro. But your making one BIG assumption:

EMS eyes will get sealed when using Izanagi/mi.



This is an ASSUMPTION that Kishi has NOT clarified yet. Again, by definition, EMS will NEVER lose its light. I dont know if this is just going blind OR being sealed, we honestly have never seen a EMS user use a eye kinjutsu.




So.... I ask you.....

...if Sasuke can perform these jutsus without loosing an eye (b/c of EMS), would you still think this is a silly assumption? And if Sasuke doesnt fight and kill Madara, WHO WILL???


Note: If Sasuke will never loose his eye, the fight b/t Sasuke and Naruto would still happen, FYI.

 

[SashaUchiha]

The title of the thread says it all.









THEORY: SASUKE WILL USE IZANAMI ON MADARA TO RELEASE EDO TENSEI










Kishi has shown...


1) Izanami can be used by any Uchiha with a Sharigan

2) Izanami can be used to force someone to end edo tensei

3) Sasuke was present when Itachi performed this jutsu, so he may have learned how to do it plot-no-jutsu

4) Izanami was CREATED for the purpose of "controling" out-of-control power hungry Uchihas (originally to counter Izanagi)

5) The Kages will obviously die without Sasuke's (or someones) help

6) Sasuke will be a criminal and hunted all his life if he doesnt find a way to make up for past mistakes. What better way to make up for trying to kill the Kages by saving their life?

7) Sasuke is the only living person so far that has been shown to know about the existance of Izanami, so only he can use it on Madara (Tobi may know, but i have no reason to believe that he would ever fight Edo Madara)

8) Itachi may have influenced Sasuke to turn on Tobi with his "Still a Konoha Shinobi" speech and headbutt LOL

9) There is currently no counter to Izanami...





Note: It's only fitting that a Uchiha is the only person to defeat the most powerful Uchiha in existance...









-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage




















Special Note on Sauske's EMS:



Sasuke's EMS being sealed... I thought about this also. But think about this:


By definition, EMS will never lose its light. Wether that means "only" going blind... or also includes never being able to be sealed... has yet to be shown by the manga. We have never seen an EMS/Rinnegan user use a Kinjutsu technique and it actually seal away the user's eye. But it is very possible that Sasuke may be able to use Kinjutsu Eye techniques that normally seal eyes away... AND keep his eyes. This way he keeps Susano'o and develops it until it is "Perfect". Just another lame theory of mine I guess LOL

headbutt xd sweet! I didn't read anything else though...

 

[Blunt]

I agree, I also thought the same thing for EMS I believe it would not lose its light/go blind if you use the forbidden techniques Izanagi/Izanami. Also Sasuke is the only character in the show that has FULL chakra and is not worn out.
Therefore it makes perfect sense for him to fight Madara.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

I hear you loud and clear bro. But your making one BIG assumption:

EMS eyes will get sealed when using Izanagi/mi.



This is an ASSUMPTION that Kishi has NOT clarified yet. Again, by definition, EMS will NEVER lose its light. I dont know if this is just going blind OR being sealed, we honestly have never seen a EMS user use a eye kinjutsu.




So.... I ask you.....

...if Sasuke can perform these jutsus without loosing an eye (b/c of EMS), would you still think this is a silly assumption? And if Sasuke doesnt fight and kill Madara, WHO WILL???


Note: If Sasuke will never loose his eye, the fight b/t Sasuke and Naruto would still happen, FYI.

Lol...I dont think its a silly assumption. Even to me, Sasuke really does seem like the best/most suitable person that could aid the Kages, as things stand now. But he lacks motivation (unless he really is changing his mind). The only other solution I can think of is if Naruto sends a clone to aid the Kages. His clones are pretty tough nowadays. Or maybe the Kage's are gonna do a "Jean Claude Van Damme movie" type of comeback on their own (I hope not). You know...Jean Claude gets the shit kicked out of him until there's seemingly no hope left. Then there's one moment of inspiration and he starts making a comeback and then he does that weird kick at the end.

I always assumed that sealing a sharingan and it loosing its light are two different things. And that the "E" in EMS only keeps the eye from slowly deteriorating or "loosing its light/sight". But I'm starting to doubt whether that is true. for me the primary issue is Sasuke's motivation. But still, even if his he could spam Izanami, I really dont think Sasuke would want to help the Kage's. Madara is a neutral character relative to Sasuke. And there's tons of hostility between Sasuke and the Kage's.

But if it turns out that Itachi somehow managed to convert Sasuke, then I'd be convinced that Sasuke would help. I really wanna see Sasuke fight Madara.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

madara knows about izanami, why wouldnt he just turn that jutsu against sasuke? now you will say "blah, Madara cant do that"...and kishi will show us that he can...or he just stops doing the same mistake in that period

Please explain how someone can counter izanami. I'm all ears.

Lol...I dont think its a silly assumption. Even to me, Sasuke really does seem like the best/most suitable person that could aid the Kages, as things stand now. But he lacks motivation (unless he really is changing his mind). The only other solution I can think of is if Naruto sends a clone to aid the Kages. His clones are pretty tough nowadays. Or maybe the Kage's are gonna do a "Jean Claude Van Damme movie" type of comeback on their own (I hope not). You know...Jean Claude gets the shit kicked out of him until there's seemingly no hope left. Then there's one moment of inspiration and he starts making a comeback and then he does that weird kick at the end.

I always assumed that sealing a sharingan and it loosing its light are two different things. And that the "E" in EMS only keeps the eye from slowly deteriorating or "loosing its light/sight". But I'm starting to doubt whether that is true. for me the primary issue is Sasuke's motivation. But still, even if his he could spam Izanami, I really dont think Sasuke would want to help the Kage's. Madara is a neutral character relative to Sasuke. And there's tons of hostility between Sasuke and the Kage's.

But if it turns out that Itachi somehow managed to convert Sasuke, then I'd be convinced that Sasuke would help. I really wanna see Sasuke fight Madara.

Jean Claude Van Damme movie sh*t was funny man. I had thought Madara would show us that EMS users cant get their eyes sealed lol but he wont do it. We dont even know WHAT EMS is even capable of yet and that sucks. I want Madara to fight Sasuke although it seems somewhat unlikely

 

[~MC117~]

Might happen

 

[blake spartan]

I don't think this will happen. Sasuke asked Itachi how to use Izanagi and Itachi never ever explained how to use it. So its obvious that Sasuke has no clue how to use either even after seeing it being used.

i don't wan't to start something but does'nt sasuke have sharingan aka copy wheel eye so itachi won't need to show him anything if he just watched could'nt he learn izanami there and then ........ Note im asking not telling

 

[Awkward Linguist]

The title of the thread says it all.









THEORY: SASUKE WILL USE IZANAMI ON MADARA TO RELEASE EDO TENSEI










Kishi has shown...


1) Izanami can be used by any Uchiha with a Sharigan

2) Izanami can be used to force someone to end edo tensei

3) Sasuke was present when Itachi performed this jutsu, so he may have learned how to do it plot-no-jutsu

4) Izanami was CREATED for the purpose of "controling" out-of-control power hungry Uchihas (originally to counter Izanagi)

5) The Kages will obviously die without Sasuke's (or someones) help

6) Sasuke will be a criminal and hunted all his life if he doesnt find a way to make up for past mistakes. What better way to make up for trying to kill the Kages by saving their life?

7) Sasuke is the only living person so far that has been shown to know about the existance of Izanami, so only he can use it on Madara (Tobi may know, but i have no reason to believe that he would ever fight Edo Madara)

8) Itachi may have influenced Sasuke to turn on Tobi with his "Still a Konoha Shinobi" speech and headbutt LOL

9) There is currently no counter to Izanami...





Note: It's only fitting that a Uchiha is the only person to defeat the most powerful Uchiha in existance...









-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage




















Special Note on Sauske's EMS:



Sasuke's EMS being sealed... I thought about this also. But think about this:


By definition, EMS will never lose its light. Wether that means "only" going blind... or also includes never being able to be sealed... has yet to be shown by the manga. We have never seen an EMS/Rinnegan user use a Kinjutsu technique and it actually seal away the user's eye. But it is very possible that Sasuke may be able to use Kinjutsu Eye techniques that normally seal eyes away... AND keep his eyes. This way he keeps Susano'o and develops it until it is "Perfect". Just another lame theory of mine I guess LOL

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[Hafiz Dembos]

Sasuke does not know Madara has been brought to life by Edo Tensei, even if he knows, he now assumes that all the edo tenseis are dead. The kages will beat Madara without any help.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

I don't think this will happen. Sasuke asked Itachi how to use Izanagi and Itachi never ever explained how to use it. So its obvious that Sasuke has no clue how to use either even after seeing it being used.

Itachi also never explained to Sasuke how to use Amaretsu, but he seems to be doing just fine.

Let me also point out here that Sasuke still has control in the Kabuto situation. If he really wanted to know ANYTHING about the jutsu he currently doesnt already know, he could force Kabuto to tell him VIA another genjutsu.

And lastly, it has already been shown that itachi has the power to give someone his memories. If WATCHING Kabuto do the jutsu isnt enough Itachi could have implanted the memory into him like he did for the last meeting Itachi had with Shisui. #ImJustSaying







-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[kagaekrish]

not just Madara but Tsunade as well My bet is she is going to use the Death deamon seal which the 3rd and 4th used to seal the kubi and oruchimaru's hand before they died.....

 

[Edge]

Unless you can explain how Sasuke can get from point A to point B before Madara toasts the Kages, I doubt it.

 

[Mishima]

hmm i dont think sasuke wants to lose an EMS...

But its possible!

EMS never losses its light.

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

For the last ****ing time (hopefully) he cannot spam either Izanagi or Izanami otherwise he is completely invincible just think about it.

Any Sharingan that uses the kinjutsu loses an eye.

 

[saw2097]

It is an interesting theory but unlikely. Sasuke is to far away to help plus I doubt he would care. He has no motivation to help them. Besides I don't think Madara is going away any time soon. I think the Kage's escape somehow and Madara takes over as main villian after Tobi kicks. I think that Naruto is going to stop him using his ability to change people by talking to them. Remember they showed Shin and Sasori collapse after they changed or found peace. I think Naruto helps Madara do the same later on.

 

[D3A]

The real question WHY would sasuke do something like possibly lose an eye for the sake of the world. He's shown he cares only for his ambition and nothing else, he even betrayed his team to run after Danzo, who he'd never catch up to if it werent for Tobi.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Sasuke does not know Madara has been brought to life by Edo Tensei, even if he knows, he now assumes that all the edo tenseis are dead. The kages will beat Madara without any help.

Sasuke MAY not know that madara has been brought to life via edo tensei. Even if he assumes all Edo's to be dead, THE LAST TWO UCHIHA ON EARTH WILL DEFINETALLY MEET. Kishi will guarantee this. Question is... HOW will they meet. As friends? Or enemies...? I say they will FIGHT.


Oh, and FYI... THE KAGES WOULD HAVE BEATEN MADARA BY KNOW IF THEY COULD. Last we saw of them, their spirits seemed to be broken once he didnt die as an Edo. They know he hasn't even shown his true power yet, he is immortal, he HAS to be sealed, and he as a PERFECT SUSANO'O. Please tell me how the Kage will win without the Reaper Death Seal (which kills the user by the way) which Tsunade has NOT been shown to know how to perform. Hmmmph.

not just Madara but Tsunade as well My bet is she is going to use the Death deamon seal which the 3rd and 4th used to seal the kubi and oruchimaru's hand before they died.....

Again... this would be TOTALLY KISHI'S STYLE OF WRITING... to have a Senju kill Madara, the person who PROBABLY killed her grandfather. But... she has NEVER been shown to even remotely know how to perform the Reaper Deamon Seal jutsu. #IMJUSTSAYIN

Unless you can explain how Sasuke can get from point A to point B before Madara toasts the Kages, I doubt it.

Uh, I'm not saying he will be there in 5 minutes lol. But honestly Madara hasnt been able to kill the kages YET so they may can pull something out of they ASS to stay alive long enough for someone to come help. They will NOT beat Madara unless someone like Naruto/Sasuke comes to their rescue. I'm sure Kishi will take this opportunity to kill off some Kage in the meantime while waiting on Sasuke to arrive on the battlefield. Sasuke will save the Kage but he may not save ALL of them. Kishi is going to kill some Kage or important shinobi SOON.






-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage