Nagato, Naruto and Sasuke vs Tobi, Minato and Hashirama

[kotoamatsukami]

Thts the thing u dnt get edo madara made two meteor like nothing n it took a while for nagato to make one tht already state tht madara rinnegan is stronger thn nagato.summon are u forgetting tht madara have those paths aswell since nagato rinnegan are his so he can use animal path aswell.if madara n nagato fight it will be a tough battle but at the end madara wins..but this is not a madara vs nagato, wat i said was tht since madara can defeat nagato n madara himself said tht hashi could defeat him thn is just obvious tht hashi can defeat nagato

Madara has those animal paths we don't kno if he can use those things.or do almighty push.

As for the meteor im sure a healthy nagato can throw around a huge meteor like that as well.

 

[Rosco Wellington]

he cant use his legs because of hanzo blowing them pretty much up. And the only reason why nagato was pierced is because of the attack he used which wiped out in entire army. If tobi used the dragon then the same thing would happen.

If that's the case then he would have been pierced upon the activation of his jutsu. However that wasn't the case. He was piecered upon the summoning of gedo mazo. But this is irrelevent seeing as we're talking about his affectivness at using gedo mazo. Which I repeat resulted in his life being sucked out. While tobi uses gedo mazo with no side affects at all

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

Madara has those animal paths we don't kno if he can use those things.or do almighty push.

As for the meteor im sure a healthy nagato can throw around a huge meteor like that as well.

We dnt knw if he can use thm but we knw he has thm..yes a healthy nagato can make a meteor as big as the one tht madara made but he cant make two at the same time..

 

[6pathofpain]

Thts the thing u dnt get edo madara made two meteor like nothing n it took a while for nagato to make one tht already state tht madara rinnegan is stronger thn nagato.summon are u forgetting tht madara have those paths aswell since nagato rinnegan are his so he can use animal path aswell.if madara n nagato fight it will be a tough battle but at the end madara wins..but this is not a madara vs nagato, wat i said was tht since madara can defeat nagato n madara himself said tht hashi could defeat him thn is just obvious tht hashi can defeat nagato

Thats not true, the summons don't come with the rinnegan just like the 6 bodies don't, they have to be collected an madara hasn't gotten any summons. Plus your talking about sick nagato. Since were talking about edo madara I'm talking about edo healthy nagato. An the only timenagato summoned a meteor was against KM naruto I believe an it was a small one an it came quite easily. Not to mention nagato can break 2 giant meteors up easily. I know this thread isn't these to vs. But my point is that nagato can counter anything madara can do cause there's NOONE! More experienced with the rinnegan than him an he can counter all of his sharingun jutsu's aswell. So to say that madara>nagato just because madara said only the 1st can stop me isn't accurate. Espeacially since madara has never even meet someone else with a rinnegan espeacially someone with more experience. He may have said that but it's not accruate because he hasn't met nagato so he doesn't even know what he's capable of.

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

Thats not true, the summons don't come with the rinnegan just like the 6 bodies don't, they have to be collected an madara hasn't gotten any summons. Plus your talking about sick nagato. Since were talking about edo madara I'm talking about edo healthy nagato. An the only timenagato summoned a meteor was against KM naruto I believe an it was a small one an it came quite easily. Not to mention nagato can break 2 giant meteors up easily. I know this thread isn't these to vs. But my point is that nagato can counter anything madara can do cause there's NOONE! More experienced with the rinnegan than him an he can counter all of his sharingun jutsu's aswell. So to say that madara>nagato just because madara said only the 1st can stop me isn't accurate. Espeacially since madara has never even meet someone else with a rinnegan espeacially someone with more experience. He may have said that but it's not accruate because he hasn't met nagato so he doesn't even know what he's capable of.

The thing is madara have all the paths, have susanoo, have tsukoyomi, maybe have amaterusa, have the strongest fire element, have wood release, n his the strongest uchiha ever live thts to much for nagato. It will be a tough fight but madara wins high diff

 

[6pathofpain]

The thing is madara have all the paths, have susanoo, have tsukoyomi, maybe have amaterusa, have the strongest fire element, have wood release, n his the strongest uchiha ever live thts to much for nagato. It will be a tough fight but madara wins high diff

The only thing you just named that could be a problem is the genjutsu, an that's highly unlikely. I think it's they both have a 50% chance of winning. Madara may have a 55% chance of winning. But nagato's rinnegan experience will be key, plus madara's name puts fear in people but I doubt that will work on nagato. That's why madara was kabuto's trump card. It's the fear in the name which is why that was the name of one of the chapter ls. Plus he fused madara with the 1st cells because madara knew him an is the only person revived that could use his powers like that an he also just got the rinngegan.

But then again but this is not what the threads about like you said an I can't even remember how we got in this argument. As much as it pains me to go against my nigga nagato I'ma have to go with team 2

 

[KyoshiroSenju]

The only thing you just named that could be a problem is the genjutsu, an that's highly unlikely. I think it's they both have a 50% chance of winning. Madara may have a 55% chance of winning. But nagato's rinnegan experience will be key, plus madara's name puts fear in people but I doubt that will work on nagato. That's why madara was kabuto's trump card. It's the fear in the name which is why that was the name of one of the chapter ls. Plus he fused madara with the 1st cells because madara knew him an is the only person revived that could use his powers like that an he also just got the rinngegan.

But then again but this is not what the threads about like you said an I can't even remember how we got in this argument. As much as it pains me to go against my nigga nagato I'ma have to go with team 2

I agree wit wat u said im saying madara is going to win but it wont be easy cuz nagato is really strong..n yes team 2 wins

 

[Ryuu..]

Ima have to disagree friend. The most obvious example I can think of is the difference in their ability to use gedo mazo. Tobi uses it no problem while nagato had the life sucked out of him. And if I'm not mistaken the strain gedo mazo put on nagato is also the reason he can't use his legs

- Hanzo blew up his legs
- Tobi is powering Gedo Mazo with Bijuus. If he didn't have the Bijuus, then he'd be in a worse predicament than Nagato if he had to connect to it, seemingly because Nagato has more chakra than him.

 

[siyo]

I'm going with team A.

Naruto, Sasuke and Nagato on the same team?

 

[DeViliShChild]

I wonder, who gets the Gedo Mazda statue in this? Nagato, or Tobi?

 

[Rosco Wellington]

- Hanzo blew up his legs
- Tobi is powering Gedo Mazo with Bijuus. If he didn't have the Bijuus, then he'd be in a worse predicament than Nagato if he had to connect to it, seemingly because Nagato has more chakra than him.

Ok guys i remember hanzo blowing up his legs. Point proven. Turns out i really was mistaken. But continuing to the 2nd part. That's doubtful. Gedo mazo is just that strong of a summon. We haven't seen anything validating your point that the bijuus are the main reason it's that strong.I don't think it's that strong BECUZ of the bijuus. I think it being that strong is WHY it can hold the beasts chakra the way it has. On top of that if nagato can wield it with his chakra alone(let's put the side effects aside for the moment) do you really think tobi would need all those tailed beasts to wield gedo mazo? I think not. But we don't even have to go that route. Let's assume your right. That just further proves my point that he can use it better then nagato. Cuz at the very least you logically have to agree its smarter more efficient way to do it. You can't talk about nagato being superior and then make excuses for why he comes up short. It makes no sense. You defeat the credibility of your own argument.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Nagato>Tobi

Minato>Sasuke

Naruto can beat Hashirama

Naruto is the key here and Nagato can revive Sasuke after Minato kills him.He can fly as well another question who would get Gedo?

 

[a shadow hero]

Naruto would smack Hashirama. He gives a couple of clones to help Nagato finish Tobi. Minato can't solo the rest. Team 1 win.

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look what took naruto to deal with one mokuton move,..
just think about it XD

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

above well spoken..nagato would probably solo hashirama with the help of sasuke blaze realse on susanno. minato to. the only one i see them haveing trouble with is tobi.

wow you really fail on so many levels U_U

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Team two wins. Nagato lacks mobility, narutos cant beat tobi(yet) and sasukes to emo and spoiled for teamwork.

 

[TobisPawn]

Naruto > tobi
Sasuke < hashi
Nagato = minato
Then naruto Finnishes off hashi

Woah there..

Naruto < Tobi
Nagato > Minato
Sasuke < Hashi

Leaving it to Nagato vs Tobi and Hashi?

 

[6pathofpain]

Ok guys i remember hanzo blowing up his legs. Point proven. Turns out i really was mistaken. But continuing to the 2nd part. That's doubtful. Gedo mazo is just that strong of a summon. We haven't seen anything validating your point that the bijuus are the main reason it's that strong.I don't think it's that strong BECUZ of the bijuus. I think it being that strong is WHY it can hold the beasts chakra the way it has. On top of that if nagato can wield it with his chakra alone(let's put the side effects aside for the moment) do you really think tobi would need all those tailed beasts to wield gedo mazo? I think not. But we don't even have to go that route. Let's assume your right. That just further proves my point that he can use it better then nagato. Cuz at the very least you logically have to agree its smarter more efficient way to do it. You can't talk about nagato being superior and then make excuses for why he comes up short. It makes no sense. You defeat the credibility of your own argument.

Didn't read the whole thing cause I was only interested in one part. Nagato had to strain his body because of the chakra dragon not because of the summon. Notice that tobi hasn't used that jutsu...

 

[Ryuu..]

Ok guys i remember hanzo blowing up his legs. Point proven. Turns out i really was mistaken. But continuing to the 2nd part. That's doubtful. Gedo mazo is just that strong of a summon. We haven't seen anything validating your point that the bijuus are the main reason it's that strong.I don't think it's that strong BECUZ of the bijuus. I think it being that strong is WHY it can hold the beasts chakra the way it has. On top of that if nagato can wield it with his chakra alone(let's put the side effects aside for the moment) do you really think tobi would need all those tailed beasts to wield gedo mazo? I think not. But we don't even have to go that route. Let's assume your right. That just further proves my point that he can use it better then nagato. Cuz at the very least you logically have to agree its smarter more efficient way to do it. You can't talk about nagato being superior and then make excuses for why he comes up short. It makes no sense. You defeat the credibility of your own argument.

What on earth are you talking about? Gedo Mazo can work on it's own. Why did Nagato have to connect to it? Because it needed chakra; it had no Bijuu in it. My point was that Tobi doesn't need to connect to it or give it chakra because it has Bijuu powering it.

 

[Microsword57]

The 1st> nagato because madara said the 1st is the only person who can beat him...seriously?

Madara has never even met and or heard of nagato. but i doubt he would beat nagato because anything madara can do with rinnegan nagato can do on a greater scale an with more experience seeing how he's had it waaaaaaaaaaay longer an madara's sharingan stuff is easily countered by rinnegan for obvious reasons. An madara suasnoo wont really help because everything it does is chakra based an nagato can an will absorb it...SO how exactly is madara or the 1st>nagato an actually use logic this time please.

Ik what your saying and what im saying is no matter how smart you are if their are flames covering the battlefield you phyiscally cant avoid it. The arguement on Susanoo speed and minatos i said that Susanoo ribcage is instaneous. For example:

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What you dont seem to understand about this picture is sasuke did not bring up the susanoo while being grabbed it was at the very last second to last second that no one even saw the ribs until afterwards.

Susanoo ribcage speed is instant and comes up that way. Also the sharinghan predicts movement based on muscle movement, Minato moves his muscles when he teleports therefore with the Sharinghan predicting when minato will teleport and Susanoos reliable last min formation speed, sasuke can safely take it down and bring it up to conserve charkra without the fear of being attack by minato.

Sasuke has Far more reaction time than tobi and sasuke has shown to take advtange of Sharinghans feats to predict movements, examples:

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Sasuke is a Fast Ninja and has great reaction time.
Tobi has never shown to have good reaction and has never shown to take advtange of the 3 tomoes sharingan feat to Predict movement.

Simply because tobi is more powerful than sasuke does not mean everything about tobi is superior to everything about sasuke.
A>B>C ,A>C Logic does not work when it comes to ninja, especially when it comes to their feats.

 

[TobisPawn]

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Ik what your saying and what im saying is no matter how smart you are if their are flames covering the battlefield you phyiscally cant avoid it. The arguement on Susanoo speed and minatos i said that Susanoo ribcage is instaneous. For example:

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What you dont seem to understand about this picture is sasuke did not bring up the susanoo while being grabbed it was at the very last second to last second that no one even saw the ribs until afterwards.

Susanoo ribcage speed is instant and comes up that way. Also the sharinghan predicts movement based on muscle movement, Minato moves his muscles when he teleports therefore with the Sharinghan predicting when minato will teleport and Susanoos reliable last min formation speed, sasuke can safely take it down and bring it up to conserve charkra without the fear of being attack by minato.

Sasuke has Far more reaction time than tobi and sasuke has shown to take advtange of Sharinghans feats to predict movements, examples:

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Sasuke is a Fast Ninja and has great reaction time.
Tobi has never shown to have good reaction and has never shown to take advtange of the 3 tomoes sharingan feat to Predict movement.

Simply because tobi is more powerful than sasuke does not mean everything about tobi is superior to everything about sasuke.
A>B>C ,A>C Logic does not work when it comes to ninja, especially when it comes to their feats.

Tobi doesn't have a good reaction time? He turned intangible in time against a point blank V2 A.