preta cant absorb kagebunshins? you have to tell my why

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Mokuton and healing are yang release, Yamatos wood has no leaves because it dosent have any yang release, the only time it had leaves was when Naruto activated his KM which radiates yang chakra. so i think its safe to say that creating/recovering life uses yang chakra.
I know bold is great probability but has no sound proof. BTW yamato's Mokuton is a incomplete at best then why should we consider a incomplete version of Jutsu?
 

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Why do you keep asking me to show you it? Don't you know this stuff already?
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Show me where it says everything made from chakra disappears when the chakra supply is cut. I have already given you an example of ninjutsu which stay even after the user dies.
Yep and that nin jutsu was edo tensei right? Funny how that cant be absorbed as well.:cool:
 

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Why do you keep asking me to show you it? Don't you know this stuff already?
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Show me where it says everything made from chakra disappears when the chakra supply is cut. I have already given you an example of ninjutsu which stay even after the user dies.
No u have not given any ninjutsu that continues even after chakra supply being cut except total physical alterations. Susano is made of chakra and solid does it stays on if the user cuts off the chakra supply? Also u dont need to know why i m picking this up, just answer me if u can.

Maybe it has something to do with the dead bodies which the soul is transfered to being real and not made from chakra :shrug:
Same way the trees as living things has their 'souls' . . . . .
 

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ok the nagato fans are going craty with preta path and post the page where it is say that ANY ninjutsu can be absorbed no matter which form.

preta path got his ass kicked by kagebunshins? why? why preta didnt absorb the kagebunshins when they have touched him and throw to the ground? kagebunshins are a ninjutsu created by using chakra. a form of chakra.

i doubt you can, fools. before you wont give me a reasonable reason why preta couldnt, whe shouldnt debate about preta which such a high meaning.

tell me, cmmon.
to a extend you right and wrong. He could absorb the kagebunshins till run out of chakra and they just dissappear on their own so in a way yes he could absorb them
 

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No u have not given any ninjutsu that continues even after chakra supply being cut except total physical alterations. Susano is made of chakra and solid does it stays on if the user cuts off the chakra supply? Also u dont need to know why i m picking this up, just answer me if u can.
Susanoo is just a type of Ninjutsu that eats away at the users chakra... that doesn't mean all Ninjutsu is like that. Mokuton doesn't eat away at the soul... once the Jutsu has been made, it stays their.
Itachi dies but his Amaterasu was still their burning.
 

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Mate this thread is no longer about that. Its about whether Mokuton or any other solid ninjutsu can be absorbed by Preta Path and people have a hard time believing that. :sy:

Sigh, Moukoton is ninjutsu...

Even if you argue preta can't absorb the wood itself, which is entirely debatable

He will ofc be able to absorb the chakra IN the wood.. Just like he can absorb the chakra IN naruto...once the chakra is drained out, the wood which is a living thing dies..

COMMON SENSE
 

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Same way the trees as living things has their 'souls' . . . . .
The trees are living things but they are still made from chakra. You do realise chakra is capable of living right? The 9 tailed beasts are proof of this. It doesn't mean it isn't chakra anymore though. You can manipulate and change the properties of chakra however you want as long as you have the ability to do so. Hashirama and the sage have the ability to give life to their chakra. Simple.
 
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Sigh, Moukoton is ninjutsu...

Even if you argue preta can't absorb the wood itself, which is entirely debatable

He will ofc be able to absorb the chakra IN the wood.. Just like he can absorb the chakra IN naruto...once the chakra is drained out, the wood which is a living thing dies..

COMMON SENSE
This shit was argued in the first few pages but some thick people wouldnt just get it. :shrug:
 

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Waste of time to argue with people who can't understand such a basic concept such as that.. there are much more puzzling things to argue about
Well should not the dead wood remain then?

The trees are living things but they are still made from chakra. You do realise chakra is capable of living right? The 9 tailed beasts are proof of this. It doesn't mean it isn't chakra anymore though. You can manipulate and change the properties of chakra however you want as long as you have the ability to do so. Hashirama and the sage have the ability to give life to their chakra. Simple.

Well Amaterasu is supposed to burn for a week is it not, so why wont it burn for a week if its nature is to burn for a week. Also for the last time Mokuton is not Creation of All things: Mokuton uses soil nutrients, water and life force to grow trees, COAT creates something out of nothing. The chakra beings needs to be regenerated or else they disappear, or why else did the Sage bother to create living vessels for Jubi chakra? Wouldnt have simple crystals or something sufficed? No bcos if the chakra was kept that way it wld have disappeared so Sage needed living things to maintain it, so that it cld be used for good in later ages. Trees are real trees not chakra beings or Preta path can absorb the Moon if Sage created it using COAT. Plus Biju can be reborn if they are killed, so how can Biju and Hashi Mokuton be the same thing?
 
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If the chakra is what formed it then it very well may crumble, as the very building block of it is taken away
Well the point is the trees are actually real things, not only made of chakra as it is alive and can grow,reproduce and die like normal trees. only such things were the biju who was formed to contain jubi's chakra, they are immoratal, sterile etc and cannot be counted as 'natural'. While the trees are natural tree created using by using chakra to give life and then nutients from earth and water to make them grow super fast. So while they can be killed by taking away the chakra but the physical body will remain, dead and shriveled.
 
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Well Amaterasu is supposed to burn for a week is it not, so why wont it burn for a week if its nature is to burn for a week. Also for the last time Mokuton is not Creation of All things: Mokuton uses soil nutrients, water and life force to grow trees, COAT creates something out of nothing. The chakra beings needs to be regenerated or else they disappear, or why else did the Sage bother to create living vessels for Jubi chakra? Wouldnt have simple crystals or something sufficed? No bcos if the chakra was kept that way it wld have disappeared so Sage needed living things to maintain it, so that it cld be used for good in later ages. Trees are real trees not chakra beings or Preta path can absorb the Moon if Sage created it using COAT. Plus Biju can be reborn if they are killed, so how can Biju and Hashi Mokuton be the same thing?
Honestly I have explained this over and over, yet it seems you are the only person unable to understand it. I really cant be bothered to keep repeating myself to you or I would just be here forever. If you still don't understand, re read all of my past post... the answer would be there. You just contradicted yourself in the very 2 sentences of your post, then go on to talk about something which I have already explained countless of times.
I didn't say Hashirama used the creation of all things, I said he used his Yang chakra (which is clan inherited from the sage) to give life to his chakra. The Sage used his Yang chakra to give life to the 10 Tails chakra which he split into 9. Its not hard to understand...
The 10 tails chakra cannot be destroyed, which is why the Sage split it into 9 tailed beasts. And why the 9 beasts always re spawn after they die.
 
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Honestly I have explained this over and over, yet it seems you are the only person unable to understand it. I really cant be bothered to keep repeating myself to you or I would just be here forever. If you still don't understand, re read all of my past post... the answer would be there. You just contradicted yourself in the very 2 sentences of your post, then go on to talk about something which I have already explained countless of times.
I didn't say Hashirama used the creation of all things, I said he used his Yang chakra (which is clan inherited from the sage) to give life to his chakra. The Sage used his Yang chakra to give life to the 10 Tails chakra which he split into 9. Its not hard to understand...
The 10 tails chakra cannot be destroyed, which is why the Sage split it into 9 tailed beasts. And why the 9 beasts always re spawn after they die.
I ask why 9 Living things? Wont some chakra crystals would heve been better? As it cld be easily hidden and protected. Its bcos u keep avoiding the fact that chakra need to be generated to maintain, or it will be lost. So sage made sure it wont be lost or go back to Jubi. Plus Biju does not comapre to Mokuton. As Hashi perhaps uses only yang to give life then water and soil to make the plant grow, making them natural trees as their genetic materials and physical forms are gift of nature not Hashi's imagination or yin chakra.
Also where did u read that Jubi's chakra is undestroyable or can not be lost? Minato effectively sealed a good portion away.
BTW Yang chakra is not clan inherited, anyone and everyone can use it if anyone knows how to. hashi just had a greater affinity for it.
 

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Well the point is the trees are actually real things, not only made of chakra as it is alive and can grow,reproduce and die like normal trees. only such things were the biju who was formed to contain jubi's chakra, they are immoratal, sterile etc and cannot be counted as 'natural'. While the trees are natural tree created using by using chakra to give life and then nutients from earth and water to make them grow super fast. So while they can be killed by taking away the chakra but the physical body will remain, dead and shriveled.
Have you read anything iSpeak posted?

He thoroughly explained it, and although I agreed from the beginning I now understand it a lot more.
 

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I ask why 9 Living things? Wont some chakra crystals would heve been better? As it cld be easily hidden and protected. Its bcos u keep avoiding the fact that chakra need to be generated to maintain, or it will be lost. So sage made sure it wont be lost or go back to Jubi. Plus Biju does not comapre to Mokuton. As Hashi perhaps uses only yang to give life then water and soil to make the plant grow, making them natural trees as their genetic materials and physical forms are gift of nature not Hashi's imagination or yin chakra.
Also where did u read that Jubi's chakra is undestroyable or can not be lost? Minato effectively sealed a good portion away.
BTW Yang chakra is not clan inherited, anyone and everyone can use it if anyone knows how to. hashi just had a greater affinity for it.
Because the Sage raised the Tailed Beasts to be good and helpful... they wasn't evil to begin with. It was the villages who made them turn evil by hunting them down for power.
Like I said a thousand times the sage did the same thing... he used the Yang from the creation of all things Jutsu to give life to the chakra. Hashirama used his Yang chakra to give life to his Mokuton. At the end of the day, it is still chakra.
If the 10 tails chakra could be destroyed he would have done that, instead of sealing it inside himself. This is why he split the chakra up in the first place... Minato sealed the chakra away but it is still alive. It is just trapped for ever.
The Senju clan inherited the Sage's power Yang chakra, which is why they are so proficient in healing etc. The Uchiha clan inherited the Sage's powerful Yin chakra which is why they are so proficient in Genjutsu etc. Why else would they mention this?
Anyway, I really cant be bothered to keep debating this. It seems most people understand where I am coming from anyway.
 

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I suggest you guys stop spitting that crap from out of your asses. Preta Path absorbs all ninjutsu based techniques. It doesn't matter what jutsu it is... if its a ninjutsu... it will be absorbed.

"Every jutsu, regardless of its chakra properties, is sucked away and rendered ineffective."
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Here you can see it absorbing Jiraiya's oil:
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Let me repeat myself... again. If a jutsu is classified as a ninjutsu, Preta Path will be able to absorb it.
 
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