preta cant absorb kagebunshins? you have to tell my why

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You realise Naruto made sure none of his Kage Bunshins went against Preta, right? Insofar that he took it on himself to personally tackle Preta Path.
 

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Yes if Preta absorbed the clones chakra through contact it will go poof and if naruto himself went and got all his chakra absorbed he wld die. But the point is the physical body will remain.
 

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I m having doubts that if u understand human laguage or even try to understand what anyone else has to say. Yes i m agreeing that the chakra of trees can be absorbed through contact but what about their physical bodies? They are living things and they are more than just chakra, they have corpral body and have life. After their chakra is absorbed at most they will become dead trees and unless Preta path can absorb previously living bodies they is no chance that the the wood will simply disappear. Do u understand now? I highly doubt that with your attitude u will even think over what i said.
The whole of the wood is chakra. The user moulds their chakra into that form and then manipulated the preterites of the chakra to mimic wood. Wood doesn't just pop out of nowhere you know? That whole thing is made and moulded from chakra.
Adding Life Force doesn't stop it from being absorbed... all chakra contains life force, which is why all living things have chakra. If the Preta Patch absorbs all of the chakra from somebody's body, then they have absorb their life force. With no chakra, they die.
Just because they have life given properties, it doesn't stop them from being chakra.
Like I said before, the tailed beasts are exactly the same. When Minato sealed half of the chakra, he shrunk. Why? Because he is chakra. When a Tailed Beast dies they respawn back in the same form. Why? because they are chakra. They have real bodies but it is still made from chakra, it just has life given properties. Yang release is in chakra, so adding it to an element would not change that element from being chakra.
 

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The whole of the wood is chakra. The user moulds their chakra into that form and then manipulated the preterites of the chakra to mimic wood. Wood doesn't just pop out of nowhere you know? That whole thing is made and moulded from chakra.
Adding Life Force doesn't stop it from being absorbed... all chakra contains life force, which is why all living things have chakra. If the Preta Patch absorbs all of the chakra from somebody's body, then they have absorb their life force. With no chakra, they die.
Just because they have life given properties, it doesn't stop them from being chakra.
Like I said before, the tailed beasts are exactly the same. When Minato sealed half of the chakra, he shrunk. Why? Because he is chakra. When a Tailed Beast dies they respawn back in the same form. Why? because they are chakra. They have real bodies but it is still made from chakra, it just has life given properties. Yang release is in chakra, so adding it to an element would not change that element from being chakra.
He doesnt just "mimic wood". He creates actual wood. A real tree thats capable of living and reproducing after Hashirama dies. If the bolded part is true then Hashirama should be able to disperse the his wood jutsu like clones and they should disappear when he dies.
 

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Hashirama is not using Creation of all things or anything; he's not making something out of nothing. He has to make his wood out of something. Guess what that something is?
 

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I would assume it would absorb the chakra put into the Kagebunshins but not the entire solid being itself.

Pretty much the way it absorbed SM Naruto Sage chakra and Killer Bee's Tailed Beast chakra when it made contact with them. Otherwise Preta Path would be able to absorb an entire being on contact but that's not the case.

It would take a while to absorb the chakra out of the Kagebunshin so it would dissapear depending on how much chakra was put into it. If they wouldn't have chakra, then they wouldn't be able to perform jutsu.

Susanoo is a chakra Titan so my opinion is that Susanoo would be absorbed. As for Mokuton, chakra is used to create a living form. Preta Path won't be able to absorb the wood altogether but would rather absorb the chakra out of it and the wood would remain.
 

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ANYTHING which is chakra based will be absorbed. Senjutsu (chakra attacks), Bijuu chakra, Kekkei Genkai (Mokuton and such) and even Kekkei Touta (like Jinton) can be absorbed; they're all chakra. Kage Bunshins are clones composed of chakra.

It isn't hard to understand: they're absorbent.
 

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The whole of the wood is chakra. The user moulds their chakra into that form and then manipulated the preterites of the chakra to mimic wood. Wood doesn't just pop out of nowhere you know? That whole thing is made and moulded from chakra.
Adding Life Force doesn't stop it from being absorbed... all chakra contains life force, which is why all living things have chakra. If the Preta Patch absorbs all of the chakra from somebody's body, then they have absorb their life force. With no chakra, they die.
Just because they have life given properties, it doesn't stop them from being chakra.
Like I said before, the tailed beasts are exactly the same. When Minato sealed half of the chakra, he shrunk. Why? Because he is chakra. When a Tailed Beast dies they respawn back in the same form. Why? because they are chakra. They have real bodies but it is still made from chakra, it just has life given properties. Yang release is in chakra, so adding it to an element would not change that element from being chakra.
Great!!!! and u said i was biased and i dont know that i m talking about. Mokuton creates trees and nourish them with soil, water and life force . . . It allows the trees to grow super fast and when left alone grow like regular trees. It is seen that something made from chakra need a steady supply of chakra to sustain itself, then if the trees was all chakra why didnt they disappear when their source was cut? Its cause they are actual living trees. Also Tailed beasts are little different but how was kin and gin was able to eat Kurama's flesh? Cos he had flesh.Also note that Kurama's chakra was sealed not absorbed its totally different things, or kurama would have regenerated the lost chakra already, plus beasts are strange beats not in tune with natural world.
 

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He doesnt just "mimic wood". He creates actual wood. A real tree thats capable of living and reproducing after Hashirama dies. If the bolded part is true then Hashirama should be able to disperse the his wood jutsu like clones and they should disappear when he dies.
It is still made from chakra, the properties of the chakra have just been changed.
Sage used the same technique to make the tailed beasts, yet the tailed beasts are still chakra. When they die, the respawn. When there chakra is sealed, they shrink. Minato sealed half of the Kyuubi's chakra inside the death God and the other half inside Naruto. The Kyuubi is chakra, simlar to how the Mokuton is still chakra. It has just been given life properties.
Naruto's cloak is able to react to Yamato's tree's and the Zetsu clone but it cant to a nature born tree.
Jutsu's are able to live on after the user dies.
 

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It is still made from chakra, the properties of the chakra have just been changed.
Sage used the same technique to make the tailed beasts, yet the tailed beasts are still chakra. When they die, the respawn. When there chakra is sealed, they shrink. Minato sealed half of the Kyuubi's chakra inside the death God and the other half inside Naruto. The Kyuubi is chakra, simlar to how the Mokuton is still chakra. It has just been given life properties.
Naruto's cloak is able to react to Yamato's tree's and the Zetsu clone but it cant to a nature born tree.
Jutsu's are able to live on after the user dies.
Now proven who really does not read here, Creation of All Things and Mokuton are the same in your opinion....... Really this is one of the best LOL moment.

Show which Jutsu remained active after the user died or its chakra source cut?
 
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If petra can absorb anyform of chakra y cant he absorb genjitsu. As genjitsu is a form of chakra used to disrupt an enemy's sense.
Genjutsu (幻術; Literally meaning "Illusionary Techniques") are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.
This is why
Just like tobi could not absorb shikamarus shadow( he used gedo to attack shika instead). Here kakashi states that shikas is yin or yang release.
This could lead people to believe that if wood does have yin chakra in it(life) then it can not be absorbed.
 

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Great!!!! and u said i was biased and i dont know that i m talking about. Mokuton creates trees and nourish them with soil, water and life force . . . It allows the trees to grow super fast and when left alone grow like regular trees. It is seen that something made from chakra need a steady supply of chakra to sustain itself, then if the trees was all chakra why didnt they disappear when their source was cut? Its cause they are actual living trees. Also Tailed beasts are little different but how was kin and gin was able to eat Kurama's flesh? Cos he had flesh.Also note that Kurama's chakra was sealed not absorbed its totally different things, or kurama would have regenerated the lost chakra already, plus beasts are strange beats not in tune with natural world.
Yawn. How many times have I said that the tree's have life given properties? They can grow and do all that, but they are still made from chakra!
Something made from chakra doesn't need a constant supply... I have never heard that.
Tailed beasts are no different at all. Kin and Gin ate the Kyuubi's flesh and in turn gained his chakra. Put two and two together and you will realise that the Kyuubi's flesh is chakra, just as I said. So you are only proving me right. Is the Kyuubi a living beast? Yes. But is he still made from chakra? Yes.
If someone sealed Neji's chakra, do you think he would shrink? No. It is evident they are still chakra and havn't become truly living things.
Tailed beasts are not strange... you must just not understand them. They have flesh, they have bones. But all of this is made from chakra. They can communicate, they can run, use attacks.. but they are still chakra. They have just been given life properties. It is the same thing with Hashirama's trees.
 
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It is still made from chakra, the properties of the chakra have just been changed.
Sage used the same technique to make the tailed beasts, yet the tailed beasts are still chakra. When they die, the respawn. When there chakra is sealed, they shrink. Minato sealed half of the Kyuubi's chakra inside the death God and the other half inside Naruto. The Kyuubi is chakra, simlar to how the Mokuton is still chakra. It has just been given life properties.
Naruto's cloak is able to react to Yamato's tree's and the Zetsu clone but it cant to a nature born tree.
Jutsu's are able to live on after the user dies.
LOL. Dont compare tailed beasts to mokuton. Tailed beasts are living masses of chakra created with the 10 tails chakra. Hashirama's woodstyle creates living trees. Trees which reproduce. They're no longer dependant on chakra after they've been created. Thats what made Hashirama special. No one else can create self sustaining living things apart from him(and the sage ofc)
 

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Now proven who really does not read here, Creation of All Things and Mokuton are the same in your opinion....... Really this is one of the best LOL moment.

Show which Jutsu remained active after the user died or its chakra source cut?
I didn't say they are the same jutsu... I said the sage did the same thing. He used Yang Release to bring the chakra to life. Just like how Hashirama used Yang Release to bring the Mokuton to life.

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LOL. Dont compare tailed beasts to mokuton. Tailed beasts are living masses of chakra created with the 10 tails chakra. Hashirama's woodstyle creates living trees. Trees which reproduce. They're no longer dependant on chakra after they've been created. Thats what made Hashirama special. No one else can create self sustaining living things apart from him(and the sage ofc)
Why not? The Sage of the Six Paths used the Creation of all things (a Yin-Yang type jutsu) to create the tailed beasts. He split the chakra into 9 with the Yin and gave life to the chakra with the Yang.
Hashirama's Mokuton is made from chakra (obviously). He then adds Yang Release (which is the half his clan inherited from the Sage's blood line) to the Wood to bring it to life. This gives it life like properties, being able to grow, reporduce and do all that. But they are still chakra. The only difference between Hashirama's wood and Natural born wood, is that Hashirama's wood is made from chakra. That is all.
 
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I didn't say they are the same jutsu... I said the sage did the same thing. He used Yang Release to bring the chakra to life. Just like how Hashirama used Yang Release to bring the Mokuton to life.

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Usually I wont bother replying further but I got one more argument that will disarm even someone as stubborn as you.
Hashirama's wood is more like the Genesis rebirth technique. Yea thats right Tsunade's tech that allows her to regrow organs using chakra stored on her forehead. So according to you, if edo Madara cuts off Tsunade's glorious chest treasures, and she puts a smile on back on Jiraiya's face by growing them. Edo Madara can at any point in time just suck those delicious melons and make them disappear right? I mean those boobs were made from chakra right?
 
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