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Right this is not a theory thread, but a rebuttal against the argument that the rinnegan is the evolution of the sharingan, I know that atm it is the current common opinion, but just read as to why this can not be assumed
I won't use many pictures, I'll just address each reason behind why people think it is and explain why I doubt the validity of these reasons.
Firstly the one that everyone has been talking about.
Kabuto said what awaits beyond the sharingan is the rinnegan
Firstly I am not going to nit pick over the definition of evolution, but I do not know why that word was used for this phenomenon.
What awaits beyond the sharingan means what is there when you go past it, the power of a dojutsu that exceeds the sharingan.
It is the next level of dojutsu but it is not an evolution of the sharingan, the rinnegan does not have to be accessed through the sharingan.
Kabuto also was not an uchiha and his theory should not be held in high esteem as he can not read the uchiha tablet which holds the secrets of the dojutsu of their clan.
Madara confirms that kabuto knows the secrets of his body, which saves some of the credibility of kabuto's statement but he never confirms that the rinnegan can only be awakened through the sharingan.
That part did not require pictures because it was simply addressing text, I will address the next three reasons simultaneously
1.Madara stated that he awakened the rinnegan before his death
2.Madara has the rinnegan
3.Nagato has the rinnegan because tobi implanted it into him
1. Madara stated that he awakened the rinnegan correct, but awakening the rinnegan barely supports the position that the rinnegan is an evolution of the sharingan.
After all is the sharingan an evolution of the eye just because it is awakened, is the byakugan an evolution of the normal eye just because it is awakened.
When speaking of the MS and EMS we say they "obtained the power of"when speaking of the sharingan, byakugan and rinnegan we say awakened because these are separate dojutsu.
2. Madara having the rinnegan does not mean it is an extension or evolution of the sharingan.
You can see here he switches between the two.
This was after he was pulled from his susanoo, instead of summoning another, he changes his eyes to the rinnegan, causing his susanoo to fade, sharingan and rinnegan can not be used simultaneously as they are different dojutsu.
You can tell he has just activated the rinnegan because naruto is shocked that he has it.
3.Nagato awakened the rinnegan himself as shown here.
Tobi gave him the means to do so (that is if he is telling the truth), but it is not confirmed that he awakened it himself then implant the eyes into nagato, nor is that theory supported by logic well.
It is possible that with the knowledge of the tablet tobi was able to see potential for the rinnegan in various shinobi and attempt to awaken it in them.
Hence why nagato's eyes does not go from sharingan to rinnegan but from normal eyes to rinnegan.
Finally probably the hardest one to argue against
I believe that the rinnegan requires both uchiha and senju DNA, as it takes huge amounts of stamina and powerful chakra to use.
Nagato was an uzumaki tobi gave him uchiha DNA, Madara was an uchiha it is possible that during numerous battles he knew that he had to take things to the next level and begun attempting to awaken the rinnegan within himself.
Notice how the sage is always depicted with the rinnegan and not the sharingan, it is because the sharingan is only one half of his blood line.
The younger brother had the body to sustain the sages power and the elder had the means to access it, to achieve his eyes truly both his DNA lines are required
I won't use many pictures, I'll just address each reason behind why people think it is and explain why I doubt the validity of these reasons.
Firstly the one that everyone has been talking about.
Kabuto said what awaits beyond the sharingan is the rinnegan
Firstly I am not going to nit pick over the definition of evolution, but I do not know why that word was used for this phenomenon.
What awaits beyond the sharingan means what is there when you go past it, the power of a dojutsu that exceeds the sharingan.
It is the next level of dojutsu but it is not an evolution of the sharingan, the rinnegan does not have to be accessed through the sharingan.
Kabuto also was not an uchiha and his theory should not be held in high esteem as he can not read the uchiha tablet which holds the secrets of the dojutsu of their clan.
Madara confirms that kabuto knows the secrets of his body, which saves some of the credibility of kabuto's statement but he never confirms that the rinnegan can only be awakened through the sharingan.
That part did not require pictures because it was simply addressing text, I will address the next three reasons simultaneously
1.Madara stated that he awakened the rinnegan before his death
2.Madara has the rinnegan
3.Nagato has the rinnegan because tobi implanted it into him
1. Madara stated that he awakened the rinnegan correct, but awakening the rinnegan barely supports the position that the rinnegan is an evolution of the sharingan.
After all is the sharingan an evolution of the eye just because it is awakened, is the byakugan an evolution of the normal eye just because it is awakened.
When speaking of the MS and EMS we say they "obtained the power of"
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2. Madara having the rinnegan does not mean it is an extension or evolution of the sharingan.
You can see here he switches between the two.
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This was after he was pulled from his susanoo, instead of summoning another, he changes his eyes to the rinnegan, causing his susanoo to fade, sharingan and rinnegan can not be used simultaneously as they are different dojutsu.
You can tell he has just activated the rinnegan because naruto is shocked that he has it.
3.Nagato awakened the rinnegan himself as shown here.
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Tobi gave him the means to do so (that is if he is telling the truth), but it is not confirmed that he awakened it himself then implant the eyes into nagato, nor is that theory supported by logic well.
It is possible that with the knowledge of the tablet tobi was able to see potential for the rinnegan in various shinobi and attempt to awaken it in them.
Hence why nagato's eyes does not go from sharingan to rinnegan but from normal eyes to rinnegan.
Finally probably the hardest one to argue against
The elder brother inherited the eyes of the father, the elder brother is the uchiha ancestor
I believe that the rinnegan requires both uchiha and senju DNA, as it takes huge amounts of stamina and powerful chakra to use.
Nagato was an uzumaki tobi gave him uchiha DNA, Madara was an uchiha it is possible that during numerous battles he knew that he had to take things to the next level and begun attempting to awaken the rinnegan within himself.
Notice how the sage is always depicted with the rinnegan and not the sharingan, it is because the sharingan is only one half of his blood line.
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The younger brother had the body to sustain the sages power and the elder had the means to access it, to achieve his eyes truly both his DNA lines are required
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