Itachi Ultimate Konoha Patriot? or Pawn??

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You cant exclude nagato so you can just have the upper hand in this debate. His attack happened and thats all that matters. Do you think Konoha wouldve been taken down so easily by nagato if the uchiha were in possesion of it?

Nope we do have to exclude him

Itachi had a deal with Tobi and that's why Nagato could not attack the leaf before that.

It was his death that allowed it, meaning that he had taken the precautions to evade such a thing to happen.

And, the Uchiha's would have been extremely weakened, way to much to defeat Nagato
 

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With itachi aiding them Nagato wouldve been pawned hardcore. Konoha full of Uchihas with Itachi vs Nagato and his eight
Itachi > Nagato mid diff
 

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With itachi aiding them Nagato wouldve been pawned hardcore. Konoha full of Uchihas with Itachi vs Nagato and his eight
Itachi > Nagato mid diff

If Itachi never had left, he wouldn't have gotten Tostuka blade or Yata Mirror

If he hadn't sided with the leaf, he would have never helped Shisui, thus not getting MS

He would still had been sick and wouldn't have pushed himself so far, thus woulda been dead by then
 

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What are the chances that he wouldve still gotten totsuka blade or the yata mirror? were talking about itachi here
He helped shisui before he took that mission
the sickness was probably caused by the constant guild trips, nostalgia, depression, regret, and most of all worrying for his younger brother
 

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What are the chances that he wouldve still gotten totsuka blade or the yata mirror? were talking about itachi here
He helped shisui before he took that mission
the sickness was probably caused by the constant guild trips, nostalgia, depression, regret, and most of all worrying for his younger brother

Pretty slim since he wouldn't have been out of the village that much

He helped before he mission, but he had already sided with the leaf, he was acting as a double-agent for them after all

The illness could easily have been a degenerative thing he always had, or a genetic flaw.
 

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alright alright i got myself into a heap of trouble with the Itachi fan base lol but its just something i needed to convince myself too. I couldnt see why Itachi could killed his whole family for someone else. Still not that entirely convince but all i can say is . . . . He has the mentality of the Ultimate Konoha Patriot
 

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They are the same thing but he was used pretty badly by Konoha because nobody in the village likes him.
 

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SEE thats what im saying even Jesus Christ was known for his sacrifice but Itachi was scorned for it.
 

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SEE thats what im saying even Jesus Christ was known for his sacrifice but Itachi was scorned for it.

Jesus Christ didn't sacrifice the life of his own family doing so as far as I know ... wtf is up with that comparison?
 

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He was definiteley a patriot
 

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bear with me here ok if we compare sacrifices then who do you think came out with the short end of the stick here?
 

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bear with me here ok if we compare sacrifices then who do you think came out with the short end of the stick here?

Between who and who?
 

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dude jesus christ and itachi

Well ...wtf is up with that? how can you compare it? true they sacrificed themselves, the circumstances are so different
 

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true they are and well the comparison is uncalled for and downright rotten but im thinking in a hypothetical sense but your right theres really no comparison
 

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true they are and well the comparison is uncalled for and downright rotten but im thinking in a hypothetical sense but your right theres really no comparison

Well on Hypothetical scale... yeah Jesus probably got the good end of it lol
 

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He was a tool, and I mean that in more ways than one. The Uchiha wanted to rule Konoha so they had to die... Funny how Sarutobi never bothered to get Tsunade to be Hokage before his death... Plot hole, perhaps? Evil Sarutobi, hmm? Did he give the information to Tobi about where Naruto was being born so Minato would meet an untimely death? Was he the one experimenting on children, letting his student Orochimaru take the blame for it so he was out of the question for Hokage? I knew he was hiding something behind that grandfatherly mask of his.
 

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He was a tool, and I mean that in more ways than one. The Uchiha wanted to rule Konoha so they had to die... Funny how Sarutobi never bothered to get Tsunade to be Hokage before his death... Plot hole, perhaps? Evil Sarutobi, hmm? Did he give the information to Tobi about where Naruto was being born so Minato would meet an untimely death? Was he the one experimenting on children, letting his student Orochimaru take the blame for it so he was out of the question for Hokage? I knew he was hiding something behind that grandfatherly mask of his.
lmao ok man i see where youre going with this alright so hypothetical questions and answers wont do a damn thing. Everyones got an imagination yo
 

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So bringing back this thread

The deed is done lol
 
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