Nine-Tails Chakra Mode Explanation! +Questions.

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So, as we all know, the Kyuubi's chakra was split into two, Yin (Form) and Yang (Life).

Yin was sealed in Minato, whilst Naruto only got Yang. Minato's excuse was that sealing the entire Kyuubi was impossible as the chakra was too large, and I don't really understand as the Kyuubi had been sealed twice in the manga's recent history, but that's a discussion for another time.

In any case, all other tailed beasts look their normal physical selves when reproduced because they had all of their original Yin chakra to create form, and Yang to breathe life into said form.

Naruto only got Kyuubi's Yang chakra. There is no Kyuubi Yin chakra to create form, so it should only manifest as stamina, which is the tailed beast shroud Naruto unlocked a bit earlier.

So what I think happens when Naruto goes into full tailed-beast mode, is that he shares his chakra resources with Kyuubi in full co-operation.

This means Kyuubi's physical form is created purely using Naruto's Yin chakra. This explains why his tailed-beast mode is translucent, and also highly influenced by Naruto's form (Specifically the stripes running down its body). He is dependent on Naruto to enter this form. Hachibi's case seems to be Killer B going "ok i'll let you out", and Hachibi taking over. Kyuubi has to go "we'll go together".

This has heaps of implications.

1) Unlike the Hachibi, Naruto doesn't take a backseat and relax while the Kyuubi takes over. They function in a cooperation system instead of a replacement system where they merely tag in/out.

2) Naruto has limited yin chakra, so he will not be able to stay in beast mode as long as Hachibi can. I have a suspicion Hachibi can stay in his form infinitely as he's fully self-sustaining. Naruto was stated to be not used to the tailed-beast mode yet so his initial time was only 5 minutes, but I think he might not have an easy a time as Hachibi does.

3) Related to the above line of questions, would Naruto's tailed-beast form change in appearance? It might never become fully tangible like the other tailed beasts because of the Kyuubi's lack of Yin chakra.

4) On a slightly unrelated note, if Minato absorbed the Yin chakra, he should be heaps powerful. Could he have broken free of the death god at some point in time?

5) Will Naruto recover the lost Yin chakra? It was said if the tailed beasts die, the beasts will respawn in mere decades (If i remember correctly). How does one go about recovering part of a tailed beast's chakra?
 
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i agree, but then how do you explain the instances when naruto lost control of the kyuubi and he began transformation into the 9 tails in a way much like the other tailed beasts transform, with their chakra cloaks and even final form which naruto came close too in the pain battle
 
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they could only do 5min because it was their first transformation as a team unlike when naruto tried transforming into kurama when kurama was still in the kage and not giving up his chakra willingly to naruto
 

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yes the kyuubi was sealed twice in history but both the times it wasn't sealed in a baby who was just born

Mito was an adult
kushina was a child but i think her body could act as a container big enough for the kyuubi

but good theory
 

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Seeing as how it was Narutos first transformation into BM it might have looked like that because of the inexperience both Naruto and Kurama in going in to that form. We just don't know how it actually works yet .
 

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i agree, but then how do you explain the instances when naruto lost control of the kyuubi and he began transformation into the 9 tails in a way much like the other tailed beasts transform, with their chakra cloaks and even final form which naruto came close too in the pain battle
This might sound weird, but Maybe because Kurama's hatred is not present anymore. I think that Kurama can't have a physical form unless his hate is present during the transformation.
 

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So, as we all know, the Kyuubi's chakra was split into two, Yin (Form) and Yang (Life).

Yin was sealed in Minato, whilst Naruto only got Yang. Minato's excuse was that sealing the entire Kyuubi was impossible as the chakra was too large, and I don't really understand as the Kyuubi had been sealed twice in the manga's recent history, but that's a discussion for another time.

In any case, all other tailed beasts look their normal physical selves when reproduced because they had all of their original Yin chakra to create form, and Yang to breathe life into said form.

Naruto only got Kyuubi's Yang chakra. There is no Kyuubi Yin chakra to create form, so it should only manifest as stamina, which is the tailed beast shroud Naruto unlocked a bit earlier.

So what I think happens when Naruto goes into full tailed-beast mode, is that he shares his chakra resources with Kyuubi in full co-operation.

This means Kyuubi's physical form is created purely using Naruto's Yin chakra. This explains why his tailed-beast mode is translucent, and also highly influenced by Naruto's form (Specifically the stripes running down its body). He is dependent on Naruto to enter this form. Hachibi's case seems to be Killer B going "ok i'll let you out", and Hachibi taking over. Kyuubi has to go "we'll go together".

This has heaps of implications.

1) Unlike the Hachibi, Naruto doesn't take a backseat and relax while the Kyuubi takes over. They function in a cooperation system instead of a replacement system where they merely tag in/out.

2) Naruto has limited yin chakra, so he will not be able to stay in beast mode as long as Hachibi can. I have a suspicion Hachibi can stay in his form infinitely as he's fully self-sustaining. Naruto was stated to be not used to the tailed-beast mode yet so his initial time was only 5 minutes, but I think he might not have an easy a time as Hachibi does.

3) Related to the above line of questions, would Naruto's tailed-beast form change in appearance? It might never become fully tangible like the other tailed beasts because of the Kyuubi's lack of Yin chakra.

4) On a slightly unrelated note, if Minato absorbed the Yin chakra, he should be heaps powerful. Could he have broken free of the death god at some point in time?

5) Will Naruto recover the lost Yin chakra? It was said if the tailed beasts die, the beasts will respawn in mere decades (If i remember correctly). How does one go about recovering part of a tailed beast's chakra?
Nice this is real nice.. I will come back and comment when I have evaluated everything else for myself.. ;);):eek::eek:
 

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yes the kyuubi was sealed twice in history but both the times it wasn't sealed in a baby who was just born

Mito was an adult
kushina was a child but i think her body could act as a container big enough for the kyuubi

but good theory
It could also be because that Mito used her Clans very very powerful SEALING techniques of the Uzamaki Clan that even Minato didn't have access to. Come on do you think that Mito used Dead Demon Consuming Seal..
 

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It could also be because that Mito used her Clans very very powerful SEALING techniques of the Uzamaki Clan that even Minato didn't have access to. Come on do you think that Mito used Dead Demon Consuming Seal..
the reason minato used RDS may just because he had to split the chakra cause baby naruto wouldnt be able to hold the whole of naruto's chakra

no where does it say that minto didnt know other sealing techs, what kushina says implies he knew other techs as well but chose to go with RDS

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with mito and kushina their bodies were larger than baby naruto and so the need of spliting the chakra wouldnt arise since their bodies would be able to accommodate all the chakra.
there are other sealing techniques that dont take life like RDS yes
 
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i agree, but then how do you explain the instances when naruto lost control of the kyuubi and he began transformation into the 9 tails in a way much like the other tailed beasts transform, with their chakra cloaks and even final form which naruto came close too in the pain battle
I don't understand you're question, but I hope this helps! When Naruto gets pissed off, he falls in anger and his conscience switches to his dark side, a.k.a the Kyuubi. And the Kyuubi doesn't just take Naruto's chakra, he takes his mind too, because chakra is mental power! And by doing so, Kurama's tries to get out of Naruto's body in his physical form. Around, I think, episode 250? Naruto fights his dark side in order to get just the Kyuubi's chakra and not it's physical appearance, so he is way more stronger! I hope I answered your question! :ice:
 

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the reason minato used RDS may just because he had to split the chakra cause baby naruto wouldnt be able to hold the whole of naruto's chakra

no where does it say that minto didnt know other sealing techs, what kushina says implies he knew other techs as well but chose to go with RDS

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Oh I know that he could not seal all of that chakra because he was a baby. I remember when Jiraiya said that the chakra was deteriorating Naruto's body because of all that chakra inside him.

Plus I want to know that if he learned a lot of Fuinjutsu(not all of the Uzamaki Fuinjutsu) from Kushina or he mother(like they proclaimed in the anime) why she couldn't help him with another or tell him about the one that was used either on her or on Mito.

I would never downgrade Minato but I can't say that he knew all the Fuinjutsu from the Uzamaki Clan. Yes I can say that he knew enough to come up with FTG but I doubt if he knew everything, because if he did it woudn't have caused him his soul in order to seal it. You can come any which way you want but the matter of the fact is that Mito sealed Kurama by herself maybe with some help from Hashirama but she did an impeccable job. Also I know that their Sealing was different but they both still had the same sealing and healing abilities..
 

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I don't understand you're question, but I hope this helps! When Naruto gets pissed off, he falls in anger and his conscience switches to his dark side, a.k.a the Kyuubi. And the Kyuubi doesn't just take Naruto's chakra, he takes his mind too, because chakra is mental power! And by doing so, Kurama's tries to get out of Naruto's body in his physical form. Around, I think, episode 250? Naruto fights his dark side in order to get just the Kyuubi's chakra and not it's physical appearance, so he is way more stronger! I hope I answered your question! :ice:
lol, maybe, i guess im going to have to look into just what role the dark naruto plays in narutos trsnformations and how big the hate aspect actually contributes to his physical transformation


That's true, but what I don't understand is why he still had a physical form after his Yin was taken away from him. :shrug:

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that seems weird as well, why kurama didnt immediately go translucent if his ability to give himself form was sealed into minato :shrug:
 

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Oh I know that he could not seal all of that chakra because he was a baby. I remember when Jiraiya said that the chakra was deteriorating Naruto's body because of all that chakra inside him.

Plus I want to know that if he learned a lot of Fuinjutsu(not all of the Uzamaki Fuinjutsu) from Kushina or he mother(like they proclaimed in the anime) why she couldn't help him with another or tell him about the one that was used either on her or on Mito.

I would never downgrade Minato but I can't say that he knew all the Fuinjutsu from the Uzamaki Clan. Yes I can say that he knew enough to come up with FTG but I doubt if he knew everything, because if he did it woudn't have caused him his soul in order to seal it. You can come any which way you want but the matter of the fact is that Mito sealed Kurama by herself maybe with some help from Hashirama but she did an impeccable job. Also I know that their Sealing was different but they both still had the same sealing and healing abilities..
mito was not in the same situation in which minato was.

he had to deal with the kyuubi and also spare some of the power for naruto which is exactly what he did.

mito's job was to completely seal away the kyuubi which she did.
 

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Oh I know that he could not seal all of that chakra because he was a baby. I remember when Jiraiya said that the chakra was deteriorating Naruto's body because of all that chakra inside him.

Plus I want to know that if he learned a lot of Fuinjutsu(not all of the Uzamaki Fuinjutsu) from Kushina or he mother(like they proclaimed in the anime) why she couldn't help him with another or tell him about the one that was used either on her or on Mito.

I would never downgrade Minato but I can't say that he knew all the Fuinjutsu from the Uzamaki Clan. Yes I can say that he knew enough to come up with FTG but I doubt if he knew everything, because if he did it woudn't have caused him his soul in order to seal it. You can come any which way you want but the matter of the fact is that Mito sealed Kurama by herself maybe with some help from Hashirama but she did an impeccable job. Also I know that their Sealing was different but they both still had the same sealing and healing abilities..
That whole scenario was plot. If you look at what's currently happening in the manga, you can see that Naruto is already OP. Kishimoto's plan has always been to make Naruto and Sasuke equal, but that can't happen if Naruto had all of Kurama sealed within him. Naruto having all of Kurama sealed within him would actually make him almost invincible.

I know this all sounds weird, but I think that's why he could only seal half of Kurama within Naruto. Many reasons have been given about why Minato was never able to seal Kurama completely, but all that was most likely said to help the plot.

This is my reason on it.
 
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lol, maybe, i guess im going to have to look into just what role the dark naruto plays in narutos trsnformations and how big the hate aspect actually contributes to his physical transformation




that seems weird as well, why kurama didnt immediately go translucent if his ability to give himself form was sealed into minato :shrug:
Yes that is true and Kishimoto has a lot of sPLaining to do..!!?? He needs to tell us why Naruto's Beast Mode is translucent and if Naruto will ever get Kurama's Yin chakra back..
 
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