Nagato cannot use Gedo Mazo in Battle

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Ive been lurking through the recent vs threads which is basically about hashirama vs nagato (this is not a thread to discuss that btw) and i keep on seeing people throwing ninjutsu's around with out them fully knowing how a technique works.

Nagato's way of using gedo mazo is very different from tobi's way. To put it simple, nagato cannot use gezo mazo the same way as tobi.

In nagato's case in order to use gedo mazo, black rod's or should i say chakra receivers impale his back. The reason for this is so that, gedo mazo can function with nagato's chakra through the chakra receivers;

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Gedo mazo is the same as the paths to an extent. Both need nagato's chakra to function/to come alive and that is what the chakra receivers are for;
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So if you state that nagato can use gedo mazo you must accept the fact that the chakra transmitters will impale him in his back.

Tobi however, the reason why gedo mazo doesnt impale him is because that gedo mazo has the tailed beasts (shukaku only now because of the paths) sealed in it. The tailed beasts are masses of chakra and that is what provides tobi's gedo mazo to work without it needing to impale him;

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you only proof than in order for nagato to use it he needs to be impale to control it you did not proof that he cannot use it in a battle if anything it is a last resort summoning if he needs it.In which his other summoning can handle a majority of the characters so their is no need to even use GEDO MAZO unless going up against EDO Madara(maybe) with hashi cells,tobi or kabuto because he has edo.
 

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What can gedo mazo do against kyuubi? It's just a statue, and kyuubi seems to be stronger than 1-6 of the bijuu ...

Not to mention that he needed to Capture kyuubi, and the only thing gedo mazo has realy been shown to do is kill with his soul dragon thing.. what's the point?

His best bet was chibaku tensei, .. His only bet was that..

nagato already captured bijuus 1-7 by the time he fought naruto. gedo mazo can obviously fight as its fighting 8-tailed bee and naruto currently. it wouldnt beat the kyuubi but it would help. if the ninetails fully transformed then deva path wouldve been destroyed. actually the phantom dragons seal bijuus when it comes into contact with them, not kill them. it wouldnt be feasible in a real fight between gedo mazo vs kyuubi as it takes days to seal a bijuu.
 

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I didn't read other people's comments but I agree with the OP that Gedo Mazo is not a simple kuchiyose monster that Nagato can throw in every fight.
 

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I first thought this was troll thread looking at the title but than I saw it was Blaze Release who wrote this thread. I was shocked because he is anything but a troll. Then I read it and no this isn't a troll thread at all.
 

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nagato already captured bijuus 1-7 by the time he fought naruto. gedo mazo can obviously fight as its fighting 8-tailed bee and naruto currently. it wouldnt beat the kyuubi but it would help. if the ninetails fully transformed then deva path wouldve been destroyed. actually the phantom dragons seal bijuus when it comes into contact with them, not kill them. it wouldnt be feasible in a real fight between gedo mazo vs kyuubi as it takes days to seal a bijuu.
When the dragon intends to transfer the ENTIRE bijuu's chakra into gedo mazo, it takes days..

When preta is sucking up someones chakra it takes a little while... But the dragon taking the soul was instant

Do you see the difference?

Once again, gedo wouldn't help his case, He needed to capture it
 

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:sy: It seems people just read the title and decided to post.
Whilst nagato might be able to summon it and he has done before it impaled him. He cannot use stuff like the soul removal dragon without it impaling him and in a 1 vs 1 fight, elite ninja's with any form of bunshin's and supplementary techniques could come into play to distract gedo mazo's dragon whilst the original takes advantage of nagato standing mobile.

It also seems like that technique takes quiet a chunk out of him. Him panting rigorously is enough, but also physically will weaken him;
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This is why Hashirama (and others [maybe Itachi inb4 flame]) could win. It is not simply, he has the dragon statue so he automatically wins. There is more strategy here, he COULD win but then Itachi COULD just Tsukuyomi to end the fight. So IMO Nagato fans are a little hasty in this argument.

At least Blaze will understand what I'm saying.
 

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Ive been lurking through the recent vs threads which is basically about hashirama vs nagato (this is not a thread to discuss that btw) and i keep on seeing people throwing ninjutsu's around with out them fully knowing how a technique works.

Nagato's way of using gedo mazo is very different from tobi's way. To put it simple, nagato cannot use gezo mazo the same way as tobi.

In nagato's case in order to use gedo mazo, black rod's or should i say chakra receivers impale his back. The reason for this is so that, gedo mazo can function with nagato's chakra through the chakra receivers;

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Gedo mazo is the same as the paths to an extent. Both need nagato's chakra to function/to come alive and that is what the chakra receivers are for;
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So if you state that nagato can use gedo mazo you must accept the fact that the chakra transmitters will impale him in his back.

Tobi however, the reason why gedo mazo doesnt impale him is because that gedo mazo has the tailed beasts (shukaku only now because of the paths) sealed in it. The tailed beasts are masses of chakra and that is what provides tobi's gedo mazo to work without it needing to impale him;

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Don't you just hate when people nit pick at your theory??

But I know what your talking about. And I used the argument in a ton of Hashirama vs. Nagato threads because I had explained how Hashirama could get past all of Nagato's other techniques and it was there last resort and I told them that if he uses it against a high rank non fodder shinobi then he would lose because If he does not get him he will drain all his chakra and could not fight after that.
 

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When the dragon intends to transfer the ENTIRE bijuu's chakra into gedo mazo, it takes days..

When preta is sucking up someones chakra it takes a little while... But the dragon taking the soul was instant

Do you see the difference?

Once again, gedo wouldn't help his case, He needed to capture it

well gedo mazo can fight regardless like its doing against naruto and bee. it would help, but it wouldnt beat the kyuubi.
 

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well gedo mazo can fight regardless like its doing against naruto and bee. it would help, but it wouldnt beat the kyuubi.

Then what's the point if it gets beaten?
What happens when it gets beaten? if it cracks and breaks or something and all the bijuu fly out or something? , why risk that when he had chibaku tenesi?
 

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Back then, Gedo Mazou impaled the chakra recievers on Nagato since it needed a chakra source to run on. Throughout the years ,after he used Gedo Mazou that way, he has been sealing the Tailed Beasts in it. Now, it runs on Tailed Beast chakra hence the immense raw power it now contains along with the ability to use the Tailed Beasts directly.

I would assume the Nagato would be able to summon Gedo Mazou running on Tailed Beast chakra but I don't think his proficiency is good enough as to keep control of the Tailed Beasts if he were to try to use them. Tobi seems to be more proficient with atleast using Gedo Mazou this effectively. Either way, I think Nagato would be able to atleast summon it and have it attack his opponents itself.
 
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LOL.
Nagato can do what Tobi could do, he just didn't have all those Tailed beasts at the time.
You must think of everything that could happen before jumping to conclusions.
You gave Tobi the Tailed Beasts. You didn't give Nagato that advantage.
If Tobi didn't have the Tailed Beasts, he'd be a Walking Skeleton too.
Good Game.
 

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well gedo mazo can fight regardless like its doing against naruto and bee. it would help, but it wouldnt beat the kyuubi.

Gedo Mazo with 7 Bijuus in it can defeat Kurama.
 

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Gedo Mazo with 7 Bijuus in it can defeat Kurama.

its obvious that kurama is the strongest. pain stated that kurama had to be sealed last or the statue would shatter due to the imbalance.
 
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Ive been lurking through the recent vs threads which is basically about hashirama vs nagato (this is not a thread to discuss that btw) and i keep on seeing people throwing ninjutsu's around with out them fully knowing how a technique works.

Nagato's way of using gedo mazo is very different from tobi's way. To put it simple, nagato cannot use gezo mazo the same way as tobi.

In nagato's case in order to use gedo mazo, black rod's or should i say chakra receivers impale his back. The reason for this is so that, gedo mazo can function with nagato's chakra through the chakra receivers;

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Gedo mazo is the same as the paths to an extent. Both need nagato's chakra to function/to come alive and that is what the chakra receivers are for;
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So if you state that nagato can use gedo mazo you must accept the fact that the chakra transmitters will impale him in his back.

Tobi however, the reason why gedo mazo doesnt impale him is because that gedo mazo has the tailed beasts (shukaku only now because of the paths) sealed in it. The tailed beasts are masses of chakra and that is what provides tobi's gedo mazo to work without it needing to impale him;

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Agreed. If he could I believe he would have at some point, and even send the Gedo Mazo with his paths.
 

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He could use it, but doing so wouldn't be very smart since it would basically kill him.
 

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its obvious that kurama is the strongest. pain stated that kurama had to be sealed last or the statue would shatter due to the imbalance.

That doesn't make it as strong as 7 other Bijuus and a soul ripping, Choji tanking (lol) Gedo Mazo.

That's like saying that Kisame > Minato simply because he has more chakra.
 
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It's for the dragon seal jutsu that he needs a connection with Gedo Mazo. If Tobi wants to do this dragon seal, he will also have to connect himself with Gedo Mazo. It's the only reason why they don't use Gedo Mazo the same way. Nagato at that time wanted to kill them quickly(intend to kill because of his dead friend) and it's why he did that

This --^ rod's pierced him only cuz he used soul dragon technique only.. tobi just rampaged GM, nagato could do the same without getting pierced. So he could use it on fight, i don't see threads point lol.U_U
 

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Nope i read the whole 'post' thanks for your concern

He clearly used Gedo here to attack the soldiers now at this point is Nagato synced with Gedo?

Oh so now its only techniques you say Gedo can you use in battle so Fuuinutsu yeah but Gedo cant move around even though it was attacking soldiers before he synced

Whos Tobi Kishimoto
I don't believe Gedo Mazo attacked anyone. He just summoned him.
 

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Ive been lurking through the recent vs threads which is basically about hashirama vs nagato (this is not a thread to discuss that btw) and i keep on seeing people throwing ninjutsu's around with out them fully knowing how a technique works.

Nagato's way of using gedo mazo is very different from tobi's way. To put it simple, nagato cannot use gezo mazo the same way as tobi.

In nagato's case in order to use gedo mazo, black rod's or should i say chakra receivers impale his back. The reason for this is so that, gedo mazo can function with nagato's chakra through the chakra receivers;

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Gedo mazo is the same as the paths to an extent. Both need nagato's chakra to function/to come alive and that is what the chakra receivers are for;
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So if you state that nagato can use gedo mazo you must accept the fact that the chakra transmitters will impale him in his back.

Tobi however, the reason why gedo mazo doesnt impale him is because that gedo mazo has the tailed beasts (shukaku only now because of the paths) sealed in it. The tailed beasts are masses of chakra and that is what provides tobi's gedo mazo to work without it needing to impale him;

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Agreed
 

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That actually makes a lot of sense that Tobi doesn't need to be impaled because of the Tailed Beasts.

Where is Shukaku? Likely still locked up inside of Gedo Mazo. Shukaku alone is a tailed beast, so it does have a high chakra level (though not on the level of the Kyuub).
 
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