Theirs a reason why Madara keeps saying that Hashirama....

[shogun973]

hashirama>>ems madara

hashirama>ems madara with kyuubi

hashirama=>edo madara

madara said that hashirama can beat him and thats all there is to it. if edo madara fought hashirama then the fight would be much closer than their VOTE fight.

you sound dumb, he the fox didn't do shit. madara has the 1st powers+ is own+ rinnegan now how cn someone with 1/3 of that be stronger?

 

[TheSages456]

I'm not underrating Hashirama, I know he's > EMS Madara.

And where exactly is that in the manga? Don't worry i'll wait.

where was it stated that 40 year old nagato was stronger than 10 year old nagato?

your spewing bs. hashirama stalemated ms madara then years later beats ems madara with kyuubi. he obviously got stronger.

 

[AWSUM SID]

I think that their is a reason why Madara even with all the new power he has gained, still says Hashi is still the only who can stop him even after he has mukton + reningan.....:ice:

....Now that is what we do not know.....

........Definitely hiding something from us don't you guys think?.. :shrug:

Maybe madara slipped on a banana peel and hit his head on a rock... thats how hashi probably won!!

 

[Ryuu..]

U_U The box form which you get your information does not state that he used Kurama in that fight. Why can't you understand that?

P.S. Then why does Madara keep saying that Hashirama can defeat him? Because Hashirama can use Kurama in every fight? Even though he knows that Naruto is Kurama's jinchuriki... he still states that Hashirama can defeat him. You say we fail, but the one who fails is you. U_U

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Believe what you wish, but I guess your approach accurately explains how Hashirama jumped from being = to EMS Madara before VOTE to being superior to both him and the Kyuubi after it

Err what? Madara does not consider the Kyuubi to be a factor when he speaks about Hashirama nowadays, because he does not have it in his possession. He even tried to summon it, but realised it was in Naruto. When he speaks of Hashirama, it's because he knows:

Hashirama > EMS Madara.

If people are on that Hashirama > Edo Madara wave then there really is nothing left for me to say.

 

[TheSages456]

you sound dumb, he the fox didn't do shit. madara has the 1st powers+ is own+ rinnegan now how cn someone with 1/3 of that be stronger?

oh the irony.

obviously this panel showing that the fox is going apeshit means that it did nothing:

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you act as if hashirama couldve suppressed the kyuubi whenever he wanted. madara was there. he wasnt going to just watch hashirama do it.

 

[Ryuu..]

where was it stated that 40 year old nagato was stronger than 10 year old nagato?

your spewing bs. hashirama stalemated ms madara then years later beats ems madara with kyuubi. he obviously got stronger.

I don't know why I chose to argue with the guy who said Hashirama > Edo Madara. Can't win.

 

[Οdin]

Believe what you wish, but I guess your approach accurately explains how Hashirama jumped from being = to EMS Madara before VOTE to being superior to both him and the Kyuubi after it

Err what? Madara does not consider the Kyuubi to be a factor when he speaks about Hashirama nowadays, because he does not have it in his possession. He even tried to summon it, but realised it was in Naruto. When he speaks of Hashirama, it's because he knows:

Hashirama > EMS Madara.

If people are on that Hashirama > Edo Madara wave then there really is nothing left for me to say.

Nah... believe what you want. Whether Hashirama used Kurama in that fight doesn't matter to me. Madara stated that Hashirama can still defeat him. It became a fact the moment he said it.

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[Ryuu..]

Nah... believe what you want. Whether Hashirama used Kurama in that fight doesn't matter to me. Madara stated that Hashirama can still defeat him. It became a fact the moment he said it.

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Ok let me ask you, who is the strongest hokage? Essential for the route I take with you now.

 

[LegendaryAce]

i liked the first page of this...then it got to arguements...possibly hashirama has more hidden abilities or whatever we dont know yet...or something else....noone can prove this so lets leave it at that

ps. TENTEN FOR Hokage!

 

[TheSages456]

I don't know why I chose to argue with the guy who said Hashirama > Edo Madara. Can't win.

madara said that hashirama could beat him. people with common sense see that as a legit reason for hashirama >edo madara.

 

[Anorien16]

What bs are you spewing now?

Kabuto said HE BROUGHT MADARA BACK TO HIS PRIME AGE, beyond his prime age Kabuto said he brought backe him byond his prime, does it not mean it was after his prime when he got Hashi cells? Also only reaction Madara showed at that comment is checking under his shirt. Hashi cells is special of the Edo cos Edo's revive people with their natural powers at the time they died. Dont twist ur words.

(Young body with rinnegan) , This is why he's a special edo


Databook never said Orochimaru created edo tensei, If you don't know what it said, stop spewing bs An old Databook said so


Those are two entirely different scenarios.. They weren't near each other...that was one flashback of hashirama and hiruzen

The other was with tobirama telling him he was going to become hokaage, We see hiruzen actually have a flashback to that moment This is a flash back too no:

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They were being chased by the kin gin hunter nin squad, and needed someone to go stall the 20 ninja, Tobirama offered and told Hiruzen he was going to become hokage ... Ha ha u r the one who is spewing rubbish, Kin Gin attacked 2nd Rai and Ho kage in a peace meeting, read this :

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Sigh , You obviously no little about the manga, what are you doing

Who knows so little about the manga now? See ur knowledge base first b4 u point at anyone. Check the black parts.

 

[Munboy]

your spewing bs. hashirama stalemated ms madara then years later beats ems madara with kyuubi. he obviously got stronger.

I don't think MS Madara ever fought Hashirama.

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These pages seem to suggest that after obtaining this "flawless Mangekyou" - the EMS. With "this power" (EMS), Madara often was pitted against Senju and eventually faced Hashirama.

There is little about MS Madara known. Though one thing is certain: he (MS Madara) never had stalemated fights with Hashirama.

 

[Joki]

Pretty sure Madara keeps saying it because it's true.

I think Madara knows Hashirama more than anyone, and if he considers Hashi stronger then he is.

Plus, he fought Kurama at the same time, I'm sure Kurama makes up for Rinnegan+Mokuton which isn't exactly the most helpful even if he was only in the fight for a few seconds(which is bullshit but hey what can you do).

 

[Οdin]

Ok let me ask you, who is the strongest hokage? Essential for the route I take with you now.

It's obvious that prime Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage. If only Madara had faced Hiruzen(prime), then maybe he would have said that Hiruzen(prime) and Hashirama can still defeat him. And remember that Madara is speaking from his point-of-view. Because he has not faced Hiruzen(prime), he can't compare his power with him, he can't say that Hiruzen(prime) can still defeat him because he has never faced him before.

Just because we have not see what Hiruzen(prime) he can do, doesn't mean that he can't defeat Madara or Hashirama.

 

[Anorien16]

Oh I dunno, perhaps by using Jinchuurikis?

Jink's went on rampages forgot it? Also he didnt sent the Biju's in ready made jinks. Also u seem to forget, villages usually kepts jinks sealed in artifacts till a proper jink was found. Shukaku in a teapot, Hachi in jar, even in a lake. Unless Hashirama had a secret not till now shown power to control biju he either supressed it or sealed it in a artifact.
The 'control' term is relative, so if Hashi takes control of a village he can manipulate them completely?

It's obvious that prime Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage. If only Madara had faced Hiruzen(prime), then maybe he would have said that Hiruzen(prime) and Hashirama can still defeat him. And remember that Madara is speaking from his point-of-view. Because he has not faced Hiruzen(prime), he can't compare his power with him, he can't say that Hiruzen(prime) can still defeat him because he has never faced him before.

Just because we have not see what Hiruzen(prime) he can do, doesn't mean that he can't defeat Madara or Hashirama.

Madara should have known about prime Hizune as he survived Hashi's fight and was alive for a long while. He even faced a young Onoki who too was the third kage of his village like old Saru.

 

[Ryuu..]

It's obvious that prime Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage. If only Madara had faced Hiruzen(prime), then maybe he would have said that Hiruzen(prime) and Hashirama can still defeat him. And remember that Madara is speaking from his point-of-view. Because he has not faced Hiruzen(prime), he can't compare his power with him, he can't say that Hiruzen(prime) can still defeat him because he has never faced him before.

Just because we have not see what Hiruzen(prime) he can do, doesn't mean that he can't defeat Madara or Hashirama.

Hmmm kk.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Hashirama fans resorting to a guessing game. Wow.

 

[Οdin]

Hmmm kk.

So you agree? Or not?

Hashirama fans resorting to a guessing game. Wow.

Guessing?

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Madara should have known about prime Hizune as he survived Hashi's fight and was alive for a long while. He even faced a young Onoki who too was the third kage of his village like old Saru.

Did he face prime Hiruzen?

 

[Owarij]

Who knows so little about the manga now? Check the black parts.

Sigh

Firstly- Stop using Anime pictures, Most of it isn't canon, stick to the anime

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This is when tobirama told Hiruzen that the next day he would become hokage..
When he was going to sacrifice himself to the kin gin hunter ninjas for them to escape

The scan with hiruzen happened long before...





This is the line up of hokages you retard

Hashirama - Tobirama - Hiruzen - Minato- Hiruzen- Tsunade

Hashirama founded konoha then died shortly after,
Tobirama took the title, and founded anbu etc, died in a war

An old Databook said so

Once again, stop talking bs, I've read all databooks 1-3 and have never seen that

 

[TheSages456]

I don't think MS Madara ever fought Hashirama.

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These pages seem to suggest that after obtaining this "flawless Mangekyou" - the EMS. With "this power" (EMS), Madara often was pitted against Senju and eventually faced Hashirama.

There is little about MS Madara known. Though one thing is certain: he (MS Madara) never had stalemated fights with Hashirama.

read the next chapter. it was stated that he had fights with hashirama then after that tobi states that madara stole izunas eyes. tobi also said that izuna gave up his eyes to protect the uchiha clan from threats like the senju.