One Shot Genjutsu yeahhh

[Chojuro Sama Kun]

KA sucks, u miss, ur dead

 

[Οdin]

KA sucks, u miss, ur dead

Miss? This is not Mind Transfer Jutsu you're talking about.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Dude why are you making lame threads. Just awhile back you wrote one about Itachi.

If you dont like my lame threads dont comment on them save yourself and myself a lot of trouble

to both i'll tell you why , Because One Time of pooping isn't enough for him to bother us :')

Thread-maker dude : i see you have a point in KA, but you are Totally mistaken in Tsukuyomi part : i'll tell you why :


by the link you gave us : Itachi said you can Resist the Tsuk. Illusion with your Sharingan but you can't break through it , only Sasuke could break through this.
And do i recall bee having a sharingan ?? i guess not :') which makes him Incapable of combatting Tsuk.

Ps: Itachi Never used Tsuk. on bee.

Itachi said my illusion genjutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be broken and yet the technique was broken by bee.This proves that Tsukuyomi as a technique can be beaten and Itachi was wrong also Itachi did not test Tsukuyomi like someone stated on every single person in the narutoverse but besides that its been proven that the technique as whole can be broken.

The strength of genjutsu depends on the user.
Also, the thing about Tsukuyomi is that the genjutsu happens in such a short amount of time that it is almost impossible for someone to counter. Sharingan helps realize its effect and stop it faster, which is what I believe Itachi meant.

@Celestial Tera Blast
This thread got me really irritated because of all the grammatical errors xd
nagato fanboy is nagato fanboy :|

read the rest of my posts xd then you will find my answer ..fangirl

 

[blackstar9]

I disagree !!
Your first idea that any good sensory type could detect shisuis jutsu is wrong. C of the hidden cloud didnt detect it! He is considered a good sensor . More important the manga doesnt say or show how the jutsu was broken . We just see mifune no longer affected. Your assuming how it was broken.

Where does it say Sasuke has tsukiyomi ? Have you ever seen sasuke say tsukiyomi? We have seen him say amaterasu ,susanoo while performing the jutsu! Danzo pointed out that sasuke genjutsu was weak compared to Itachis .Because Itachi could control the time tsukiyomi last.Just because its a ms sharingan genjutsu doesnt make it tsukiyomi! Sasuke doesnt have tsukiyomi so Bee never broke it! Itachi said only a Uchiha could break it . Sasuke is the only one to break it so far!

 

[Hipster Madara]

If you dont like my lame threads dont comment on them save yourself and myself a lot of trouble


Itachi said my illusion genjutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be broken and yet the technique was broken by bee.This proves that Tsukuyomi as a technique can be beaten and Itachi was wrong also Itachi did not test Tsukuyomi like someone stated on every single person in the narutoverse but besides that its been proven that the technique as whole can be broken.


read the rest of my posts xd then you will find my answer ..fangirl

i read the entire thread so no you didnt :|

 

[Kira was Righteous]

I disagree !!
Your first idea that any good sensory type could detect shisuis jutsu is wrong. C of the hidden cloud didnt detect it! He is considered a good sensor . More important the manga doesnt say or show how the jutsu was broken . We just see mifune no longer affected. Your assuming how it was broken.

Where does it say Sasuke has tsukiyomi ? Have you ever seen sasuke say tsukiyomi? We have seen him say amaterasu ,susanoo while performing the jutsu! Danzo pointed out that sasuke genjutsu was weak compared to Itachis .Because Itachi could control the time tsukiyomi last.Just because its a ms sharingan genjutsu doesnt make it tsukiyomi! Sasuke doesnt have tsukiyomi so Bee never broke it! Itachi said only a Uchiha could break it . Sasuke is the only one to break it so far!

Any good chakra sensor would be able to see different changes in chakra just like Ao because thats how it works sensing pressure and changes among other things

If were going by your logic Danzo should of said release before Mifune snapped himself out of it.Ao told Mifune he was in genjutsu then Mifune acted normally considering the whole genjutsu relys on the victim not knowing their in genjutsu...

Its stated in the official databook to have Susnaoo you must have tsukuyomi and amateseru.Sasuke as well uses his MS and starts bleeding when he uses it go figure wheter he used it.

Itachi said no one can break his illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi yet he was proven wrong by bee and thats all there is to it

 

[true enigma]

A couple of points id like to go into that proves that Uchiha Genjutsu can be broken ill start with the the so called Ultimate Genjutsu Koto Amatsukami.This technique allows the user to manipulate the victim without them knowing creating false experiences.This is a very very dangerous technique and if it hits home it is basically a one shot..yeahhh well almost.This technique was used on Mifune to manipulate him with his eye covered which was detected by Ao who claimed to know this technique through surviving a fight with Shisui Uchiha

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Ao even states he saw through the illusion

There is one important point about Mifune that i would like to make that makes Koto Amatsukami not a one shot yeahhh but rather a very dangerous technique that can be countered by very high level ninja.If KA is as dangerous as many uchiha fanboys make it out to be then why was Mifune snapped out of it by telling him he was in genjutsu? I believe any great Sensory type Ninja would be able to detect this as Ao was able to detect it through the colour of chakra and realise they are under its affects...My point being is that it can be broken through Normal means if you know you are under genjutsu Mifune proved this.
Mifune under the influence of genjutsu

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Mifune told he is being manipulated by KA

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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Tsukuyomi aka the uchiha fanboys dream was stated by uchiha Itachi himself to be unbreakable while this is a biast manga quote talking about himself.There are some grounds for believing it as its only been used on Sasuke after Kakashi and he broke it the 3rd Time.The question is how does one break Tsukuyomi?The key is in the wording if we are to take this biast quote as evidence you must not selectively quote parts and add your own twist.

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My illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be beaten is not referring to his own version but the jutsu Tsukuyomi.The wording is clear and this is not true as others such as Bee have broken Tsukuyomi and even danzo stated that it was weaker compared to Itachis but this proves that it can be broken(The official handbook stated that Sasuke has to have had Tsukuyomi as well).Another thing to point out is that Itachi had never fought a tailed beast user or a Rinngean user but regardless it was broken so the technique as a whole can be broken... however that doesn't mean they can break it quick enough to respond to a attack.

In conclusion for those who are skimming through

KA broken by Mifune by being told he was in genjutsu and seen through by Ao with Byakagun who saw the genjutsu

Tsukuyomi broken by Bee,Itachi through a bias stated his illusionary technique justu Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken but proven wrong

Thoughts? if you agree don't forget to link this for Uchiha fanboys xd

U mad bro?? Itachi > everybody u like:scorps:

 

[Helikido]

A couple of points id like to go into that proves that Uchiha Genjutsu can be broken ill start with the the so called Ultimate Genjutsu Koto Amatsukami.This technique allows the user to manipulate the victim without them knowing creating false experiences.This is a very very dangerous technique and if it hits home it is basically a one shot..yeahhh well almost.This technique was used on Mifune to manipulate him with his eye covered which was detected by Ao who claimed to know this technique through surviving a fight with Shisui Uchiha

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Ao even states he saw through the illusion

There is one important point about Mifune that i would like to make that makes Koto Amatsukami not a one shot yeahhh but rather a very dangerous technique that can be countered by very high level ninja.If KA is as dangerous as many uchiha fanboys make it out to be then why was Mifune snapped out of it by telling him he was in genjutsu? I believe any great Sensory type Ninja would be able to detect this as Ao was able to detect it through the colour of chakra and realise they are under its affects...My point being is that it can be broken through Normal means if you know you are under genjutsu Mifune proved this.
Mifune under the influence of genjutsu

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Mifune told he is being manipulated by KA

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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Tsukuyomi aka the uchiha fanboys dream was stated by uchiha Itachi himself to be unbreakable while this is a biast manga quote talking about himself.There are some grounds for believing it as its only been used on Sasuke after Kakashi and he broke it the 3rd Time.The question is how does one break Tsukuyomi?The key is in the wording if we are to take this biast quote as evidence you must not selectively quote parts and add your own twist.

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My illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be beaten is not referring to his own version but the jutsu Tsukuyomi.The wording is clear and this is not true as others such as Bee have broken Tsukuyomi and even danzo stated that it was weaker compared to Itachis but this proves that it can be broken(The official handbook stated that Sasuke has to have had Tsukuyomi as well).Another thing to point out is that Itachi had never fought a tailed beast user or a Rinngean user but regardless it was broken so the technique as a whole can be broken... however that doesn't mean they can break it quick enough to respond to a attack.

In conclusion for those who are skimming through

KA broken by Mifune by being told he was in genjutsu and seen through by Ao with Byakagun who saw the genjutsu

Tsukuyomi broken by Bee,Itachi through a bias stated his illusionary technique justu Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken but proven wrong

Thoughts? if you agree don't forget to link this for Uchiha fanboys xd

]http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/459/15[/URL]
Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA [URL=


O.P you have failed miserably. KA is a one shot genjutsu. so was never hit with KA. He only witnessed other people getting controlled by it, while he also needed the help of the byakigan to be able to distinguish it. Why do you think kishi put a 10 year time limit on it? It was that haxed. all your points are empty.

And for tsykiyomi you cannot use sasukes as an example. Danzo said that it was miles weaker than itachis. So of course killer bee can break out of. But guess what?

Itachis tsykiyomi cannot be broken by outer chakra disruptions. or the disruption of the chakra flow of the victim. Look at kabuto, he got tsykiyomied and released his edo WHILE his chakra is constantly changing because of sage mode.

Itachi himself said that an uchiha with his own eyes (MS) is required to break his genjutsu. He was only toying with sasuke half blind, which is why sasuke broke out.

Conclusion is that your just hating on uchihas, with no valid points that you cannot make.

 

[MangekyouJ]

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OMFG...I couldn't stop laughing upon seeing this ^^^^ and 10 minutes later I'm still laughing...lol

 

[destined 2 win]

I disagree !!
Your first idea that any good sensory type could detect shisuis jutsu is wrong. C of the hidden cloud didnt detect it! He is considered a good sensor . More important the manga doesnt say or show how the jutsu was broken . We just see mifune no longer affected. Your assuming how it was broken.

Where does it say Sasuke has tsukiyomi ? Have you ever seen sasuke say tsukiyomi? We have seen him say amaterasu ,susanoo while performing the jutsu! Danzo pointed out that sasuke genjutsu was weak compared to Itachis .Because Itachi could control the time tsukiyomi last.Just because its a ms sharingan genjutsu doesnt make it tsukiyomi! Sasuke doesnt have tsukiyomi so Bee never broke it! Itachi said only a Uchiha could break it . Sasuke is the only one to break it so far!

lolz dude if sasuke has amatersu , susanoo and why on earth he wont have tsukyomi ????? wasnt it tuskuyomi that sasuke casted on killer bee and he failed???? and why on earth u are so sure that only a uchihaa can break a tsukuyomi ??? is it just bcoz itachi said it. then u also should believe itachi is the greatest dumbass and troll on earth bcoz he has said it a millions times how he failed. dont take others word for granted.there are many users who has different clams about them selves and others but most of them are wrong as the story porceeds.itachi himself was amazed bcoz he truely believed sasuke wont break tsukuyomi . so its a fact itachi was wrong.

tsukyomi isnt such a one hit k.o jutsu like most of u guys believe. it was just a jutsu in early manga to creat a mysterious cults image of itachi. i believe taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu and fuinjutsu are all equal and deadly and it depends on users intelligence and noob opponets stupidity .

 

[destined 2 win]

U mad bro?? Itachi > everybody u like:scorps:

u mad bro shi sui >>>>>>> itachi . even a dead shisui's eye casted kotoamatsukami on itachi and saved his ass.

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hehe kabuto said shi sui >>> itachi's jutsu:flirty1:
shisui faster than itachi shi sui body flicker :scorps:
shisui healthier than itachi bcoz shi sui not an aids victim like itachi:scorps:
shisui strongest genjutsu than itachi. k.A one shot kill itachi and make him suicide.:emperor:
shi sui >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itachi:izuna:

 

[destined 2 win]

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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[destined 2 win]

I disagree !!
Your first idea that any good sensory type could detect shisuis jutsu is wrong. C of the hidden cloud didnt detect it! He is considered a good sensor . More important the manga doesnt say or show how the jutsu was broken . We just see mifune no longer affected. Your assuming how it was broken.

Where does it say Sasuke has tsukiyomi ? Have you ever seen sasuke say tsukiyomi? We have seen him say amaterasu ,susanoo while performing the jutsu! Danzo pointed out that sasuke genjutsu was weak compared to Itachis .Because Itachi could control the time tsukiyomi last.Just because its a ms sharingan genjutsu doesnt make it tsukiyomi! Sasuke doesnt have tsukiyomi so Bee never broke it! Itachi said only a Uchiha could break it . Sasuke is the only one to break it so far!

shisui>>>>>itachi>>>>>> sasuke. :sy:

 

[MangekyouJ]

shisui>>>>>itachi>>>>>> sasuke. :sy:

.....just no......U_U

 

[teetooktier]

A couple of points id like to go into that proves that Uchiha Genjutsu can be broken ill start with the the so called Ultimate Genjutsu Koto Amatsukami.This technique allows the user to manipulate the victim without them knowing creating false experiences.This is a very very dangerous technique and if it hits home it is basically a one shot..yeahhh well almost.This technique was used on Mifune to manipulate him with his eye covered which was detected by Ao who claimed to know this technique through surviving a fight with Shisui Uchiha

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Ao even states he saw through the illusion

There is one important point about Mifune that i would like to make that makes Koto Amatsukami not a one shot yeahhh but rather a very dangerous technique that can be countered by very high level ninja.If KA is as dangerous as many uchiha fanboys make it out to be then why was Mifune snapped out of it by telling him he was in genjutsu? I believe any great Sensory type Ninja would be able to detect this as Ao was able to detect it through the colour of chakra and realise they are under its affects...My point being is that it can be broken through Normal means if you know you are under genjutsu Mifune proved this.
Mifune under the influence of genjutsu

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Mifune told he is being manipulated by KA

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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Tsukuyomi aka the uchiha fanboys dream was stated by uchiha Itachi himself to be unbreakable while this is a biast manga quote talking about himself.There are some grounds for believing it as its only been used on Sasuke after Kakashi and he broke it the 3rd Time.The question is how does one break Tsukuyomi?The key is in the wording if we are to take this biast quote as evidence you must not selectively quote parts and add your own twist.

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My illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be beaten is not referring to his own version but the jutsu Tsukuyomi.The wording is clear and this is not true as others such as Bee have broken Tsukuyomi and even danzo stated that it was weaker compared to Itachis but this proves that it can be broken(The official handbook stated that Sasuke has to have had Tsukuyomi as well).Another thing to point out is that Itachi had never fought a tailed beast user or a Rinngean user but regardless it was broken so the technique as a whole can be broken... however that doesn't mean they can break it quick enough to respond to a attack.

In conclusion for those who are skimming through

KA broken by Mifune by being told he was in genjutsu and seen through by Ao with Byakagun who saw the genjutsu

Tsukuyomi broken by Bee,Itachi through a bias stated his illusionary technique justu Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken but proven wrong

Thoughts? if you agree don't forget to link this for Uchiha fanboys xd

What you say about mifune and KA only applies when it's not one on one. Checking out the vs. threads, it seems like they're almost always 1 on 1. So yeah, when people on Narutobase say KA is a oneshot, they are right most of the time.

Itachi's Tsukoyomi can really only be broken for sure by Sasuke, Tobi, and Madara atm, as well as possibly perfect Jinchuuriki. Against anyone else, it really is a one-shot. If Kakashi gets put in the hospital for weeks by it, then I'm pretty much certain that nobody can take one without giving Itachi a fatal opening. So again, versus the vast majority of characters taking Itachi's Tsukoyomi ends the fight.

This has already been addressed in the manga; when fighting Uchiha, if it's one on one run away.

 

[destined 2 win]

.....just no......U_U

admit it bro. shi sui got the best genjutsu in whole world. shi sui can even pawn edo madara. kotoamatsukami edo madara and make him believe he is servent of shi sui and make him his slave. too easy.xd

 

[Helikido]

so u adimit it bro shisui >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itahi uchihaa.
k.A one shot kill

You dimwit I never said it wasn't. Get the hell out you god damn troll

 

[Helikido]

A couple of points id like to go into that proves that Uchiha Genjutsu can be broken ill start with the the so called Ultimate Genjutsu Koto Amatsukami.This technique allows the user to manipulate the victim without them knowing creating false experiences.This is a very very dangerous technique and if it hits home it is basically a one shot..yeahhh well almost.This technique was used on Mifune to manipulate him with his eye covered which was detected by Ao who claimed to know this technique through surviving a fight with Shisui Uchiha

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Ao even states he saw through the illusion

There is one important point about Mifune that i would like to make that makes Koto Amatsukami not a one shot yeahhh but rather a very dangerous technique that can be countered by very high level ninja.If KA is as dangerous as many uchiha fanboys make it out to be then why was Mifune snapped out of it by telling him he was in genjutsu? I believe any great Sensory type Ninja would be able to detect this as Ao was able to detect it through the colour of chakra and realise they are under its affects...My point being is that it can be broken through Normal means if you know you are under genjutsu Mifune proved this.
Mifune under the influence of genjutsu

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Mifune told he is being manipulated by KA

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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Tsukuyomi aka the uchiha fanboys dream was stated by uchiha Itachi himself to be unbreakable while this is a biast manga quote talking about himself.There are some grounds for believing it as its only been used on Sasuke after Kakashi and he broke it the 3rd Time.The question is how does one break Tsukuyomi?The key is in the wording if we are to take this biast quote as evidence you must not selectively quote parts and add your own twist.

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My illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be beaten is not referring to his own version but the jutsu Tsukuyomi.The wording is clear and this is not true as others such as Bee have broken Tsukuyomi and even danzo stated that it was weaker compared to Itachis but this proves that it can be broken(The official handbook stated that Sasuke has to have had Tsukuyomi as well).Another thing to point out is that Itachi had never fought a tailed beast user or a Rinngean user but regardless it was broken so the technique as a whole can be broken... however that doesn't mean they can break it quick enough to respond to a attack.

In conclusion for those who are skimming through

KA broken by Mifune by being told he was in genjutsu and seen through by Ao with Byakagun who saw the genjutsu

Tsukuyomi broken by Bee,Itachi through a bias stated his illusionary technique justu Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken but proven wrong

Thoughts? if you agree don't forget to link this for Uchiha fanboys xd

BTW you fail because once you are caught in tsykiyomi and you are not an uchiha you are screwed horribly. Don't ask why, because all it takes is 1 second foe Itachi to mind rape you. You will never have enough time to disrupt your chakra.

 

[ucHIHA mADaRa DouGs]

itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>nagato

hehehehe am i right???

thats why nagata is masturbating inside itachi's gourd

poor nagato

itachi>>>>nagato and minato

nagato>>>minato

poor minato so weak

 

[Nidaime Pupil]

A couple of points id like to go into that proves that Uchiha Genjutsu can be broken ill start with the the so called Ultimate Genjutsu Koto Amatsukami.This technique allows the user to manipulate the victim without them knowing creating false experiences.This is a very very dangerous technique and if it hits home it is basically a one shot..yeahhh well almost.This technique was used on Mifune to manipulate him with his eye covered which was detected by Ao who claimed to know this technique through surviving a fight with Shisui Uchiha

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Ao even states he saw through the illusion

There is one important point about Mifune that i would like to make that makes Koto Amatsukami not a one shot yeahhh but rather a very dangerous technique that can be countered by very high level ninja.If KA is as dangerous as many uchiha fanboys make it out to be then why was Mifune snapped out of it by telling him he was in genjutsu? I believe any great Sensory type Ninja would be able to detect this as Ao was able to detect it through the colour of chakra and realise they are under its affects...My point being is that it can be broken through Normal means if you know you are under genjutsu Mifune proved this.
Mifune under the influence of genjutsu

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Mifune told he is being manipulated by KA

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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Tsukuyomi aka the uchiha fanboys dream was stated by uchiha Itachi himself to be unbreakable while this is a biast manga quote talking about himself.There are some grounds for believing it as its only been used on Sasuke after Kakashi and he broke it the 3rd Time.The question is how does one break Tsukuyomi?The key is in the wording if we are to take this biast quote as evidence you must not selectively quote parts and add your own twist.

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My illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be beaten is not referring to his own version but the jutsu Tsukuyomi.The wording is clear and this is not true as others such as Bee have broken Tsukuyomi and even danzo stated that it was weaker compared to Itachis but this proves that it can be broken(The official handbook stated that Sasuke has to have had Tsukuyomi as well).Another thing to point out is that Itachi had never fought a tailed beast user or a Rinngean user but regardless it was broken so the technique as a whole can be broken... however that doesn't mean they can break it quick enough to respond to a attack.

In conclusion for those who are skimming through

KA broken by Mifune by being told he was in genjutsu and seen through by Ao with Byakagun who saw the genjutsu

Tsukuyomi broken by Bee,Itachi through a bias stated his illusionary technique justu Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken but proven wrong

Thoughts? if you agree don't forget to link this for Uchiha fanboys xd

Seriously you're gonna make this thread again. Mifune didn't break KA, Danzo stopped controlling him because he'd been found out.

Tsukuyomi has never been used on Bee inb4 that ***** shit genjutsu used by Sasuke.

How many times can you fail and keep trying the same shit.