Kisame is still >=< EMS Madara.

[narutownsyouall]

Case and point.. Hype boy.

Thanks, it's hot in here. Hype boys like to flame.

Madara makes normal susanoo and throws yata magmata, and Kisame absorbs it then he turns into final and he cuts Kisame in half

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Case and point.. Hype boy.

Thanks, it's hot in here. Hype boys like to flame.

calling me a hype boy will convince everyone to say that kisame wins
if that is what you want go ahead and call me
*sees how many agrees with him on this thread* :sy:

 

[Nikes]

Madara makes normal susanoo and throws yata magmata, and Kisame absorbs it then he turns into final and he cuts Kisame in half

If you want to be specific like that...... Kisame makes a clone comes up behind Madara and bits his jugular and kills him. Doesn't work like that buddy.

Susanoo can be absorbed by Shark Bullet. Kisame knows how dangerous Uchihas are, he isn't dumb. Susanoo would be taken out as soon as possible.

 

[RockLee X Zabuza]

One word GENJUTSU case closed....

 

[Nikes]

One word GENJUTSU case closed....

Samehada disrupts chakra. Three words. Case continued.

 

[Raito]

Kamui is a Mangekyo jutsu. That is obviously a mistake. It says there is three there is over three.

Tsukuyomi is genjutsu..

Yeah you're right on that one. But without Susanoo there is no swing. Shark Bullet absorbs it.

Kakasi doesn't count here, he isn't even an Uchiha. All Uchihas we have seen in action are using the Susanoo with their Mangekyou, this includes the mastery of Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu (according to Itachi, according to the databook, a confirmed fact).

And yes, Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu but is to fast. Since Tsukuyomi takes only one second in the reality, Samehada won't even have the time to react or free him from it and Madaras Genjutsus are at least on Itachis level, since he was the one who fully controlled the Kyuubi with the Sharingan.

One eye contact kills him, one glance kills him.
Not mentioned Susanoo. Look how huge Susanoo is, huger than the meteors. The huge Jinton which managed to destroy the 25 Susanoos, was nothing against his perfect one - Oonoki gave up when seeing Susanoo stabilize its chakra.

+Madara is faster.

 

[Blaze Release]

You most likely trolling anyway but there you go;

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"The stronger my opponent, the stronger i become myself. I never tire and never fail"

On a more serious note, no kisame wouldnt pose much of threat for either ems madara or edo madara. If edo madar was to summon a meteor that is kisame done i dont believe he can regenerate from that because in order to regenerate he has to be still alive and i dont believe he would be after the meteor.

Secondly kisame has a 2.5/5 for genjutsu and thats basically the same stat as naruto who has been trolled enough by genjutsu. What im saying is that genjutsu is kisame's weakness and onces madara either edo mor ems does what he did to A with a sharingan genjutsu that is kisame there for the taking.

However being partnered with an uchiha illusionist and even telling deidora that he lost the moment he looked into itachi's eyes, kisame obviously wouldnt fight an uchiha whilst looking in their eyes. Kisame is one of the few people who can counter madara's extreme katon jutsu's with his own suiton techniques. If he fuses with samahada he will prolong the inevitable which is his defeat either to ems madara or edo madara

 

[Nikes]

Kakasi doesn't count here, he isn't even an Uchiha. All Uchihas we have seen in action are using the Susanoo with their Mangekyou, this includes the mastery of Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu (according to Itachi, according to the databook, a confirmed fact).

And yes, Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu but is to fast. Since Tsukuyomi takes only one second in the reality, Samehada won't even have the time to react or free him from it and Madaras Genjutsus are at least on Itachis level, since he was the one who fully controlled the Kyuubi with the Sharingan.

One eye contact kills him, one glance kills him.
Not mentioned Susanoo. Look how huge Susanoo is, huger than the meteors. The huge Jinton which managed to destroy the 25 Susanoos, was nothing against his perfect one - Oonoki gave up when seeing Susanoo stabilize its chakra.

+Madara is faster.

Shisui had Komo Atakjdafkjsdio, that's a whole separate technique different than Tsukuyomi. And Obitos eye was destined for S/T Kakashi had nothing to do with it. It was a mistake, it says three techniques is what the Mangekyo has but obviously there is 4 right here. I'm not saying Kishi is wrong but I think he meant mastery of the double Mangekyo and Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu is Sasukes and Itachis.

Oonoki also can't absorb chakra. No matter large Susanoo is its still chakra. Shark bullet grows as it absorbs chakra.

 

[RockLee X Zabuza]

Samehada disrupts chakra. Three words. Case continued.

hmm...you are absolutely rite i have no counter argument +rep thread

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Kisame > Rikudo Sennin, simple as that

 

[Nikes]

You most likely trolling anyway but there you go;

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"The stronger my opponent, the stronger i become myself. I never tire and never fail"

On a more serious note, no kisame wouldnt pose much of threat for either ems madara or edo madara. If edo madar was to summon a meteor that is kisame done i dont believe he can regenerate from that because in order to regenerate he has to be still alive and i dont believe he would be after the meteor.

Secondly kisame has a 2.5/5 for genjutsu and thats basically the same stat as naruto who has been trolled enough by genjutsu. What im saying is that genjutsu is kisame's weakness and onces madara either edo mor ems does what he did to A with a sharingan genjutsu that is kisame there for the taking.

However being partnered with an uchiha illusionist and even telling deidora that he lost the moment he looked into itachi's eyes, kisame obviously wouldnt fight an uchiha whilst looking in their eyes. Kisame is one of the few people who can counter madara's extreme katon jutsu's with his own suiton techniques. If he fuses with samahada he will prolong the inevitable which is his defeat either to ems madara or edo madara

EMS Madara. Edo Madara would be obvious troll.

But, like you said he knows better than to look in his eyes. And his chakra levels are on par or greater than Madaras and with that scan he doesn't run out.

Fighting on a large body of water is a great advantage as well, 1000 sharks would do Madara in.

 

[Raito]

Shisui had Komo Atakjdafkjsdio, that's a whole separate technique different than Tsukuyomi. And Obitos eye was destined for S/T Kakashi had nothing to do with it. It was a mistake, it says three techniques is what the Mangekyo has but obviously there is 4 right here. I'm not saying Kishi is wrong but I think he meant mastery of the double Mangekyo and Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu is Sasukes and Itachis.

Oonoki also can't absorb chakra. No matter large Susanoo is its still chakra. Shark bullet grows as it absorbs chakra.

That Shisuis eyes were able to create Kotoamatsukami, the most powerful Genjutsu, doesn't mean he wasn't able to use the Mangekyous main techniques. Or do you want to tell me at this point, that both of Shisuis eyes awake the same technique and are working only one time for 10 years? Where would be the logic behind this? Kotoamatsukami is definitely a bonus. Above we don't know which techniques Obito, a bloody Uchiha would awake, perhaps the same as the other Uchihas, since these are the Mangekyous main techniques. Kakashi is not an Uchiha, thus we cannot compare him with them.

What is your point? You contradict Kishimoto. No matter which technique the Sharingan can awake, Itachi said and more important, the databook confirms, that Susanoo can only be used if Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu are mastered. So no matter what you are talking about, Madara can use these two techniques since he has mastered Susanoo as well.

And besides, Samehada isn't a Biju which react on its Jinchuriki who is in a Genjutsu. Samehada is just a stupid, living thing Kisame is wearing as his sword. Madaras Genjutsus don't take much time, one eye contact paralyzes him immediately, so there is no need for Samehada after all.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Kisame > Rikudo Sennin, simple as that

Ugh... Look at this fanboy disgusting. ^

Anywho back on topic OP's logic does make sense... I don't know about you guys But I've tried fighting water... its really tough to inflict any serious damage towards the water. One of Kisame's speciality is water

 

[Icelerate]

Madara would win mid diff at the very maximum.

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

Madaras susanoo t-bags Kisame to death

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^this I mean have yu seen his susanoo

 

[Sir Blades]

unfortunately kisame looses this fight.

 

[6pathofpain]

I hate double posting, but actually he wouldn't need to use his sword. He can absorb as much as he wants when he's fused and he has shark bullet that absorbs infinite amount as it grows stronger and larger.

O well. An that may happen if he can even get that attack off in time, an that swing he did with his sword seemed suuuuuuper fast, an we dont know for sure it can absorb as much as it wants

 

[immortal sage]

But he can absorb Susanoo itself. Meaning without Susanoo that attack doesn't exist, get it?

susano wouldnt just stand there and get ubsorbed plus if he just hits the floor all surrounding life would be destroyed including kisame

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

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[Akatsuki wise guy]

Stupid kisame fanboy -rep