Kishi ruined the manga

Sukalotta Kok

Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2012
Messages
185
Reaction score
3
No, but apparently they can be immortal if their death would mess up the plot.

And they are sent to die as soon as they've done what they had to do, if their death is tragic enough to bring a meaning to the series.

Just like Jiraya going on a suicide mission as soon as Naruto is trained enough to go on his own...

It's kind of like in Skyrim where every NPC that is required for the plot is marked as "essential" and can't die no matter what you throw at him, so that it doesn't mess up the game.

In Naruto, the Konoha 11 + Sasuke are basically the essentials..

Obviously Jiraya didnt think it was a suicide mission if he went. Nor when Tsunade assigned him to it. Jiraya died but he gave information to Konoha of Pain. Since he died it gave Naruto a better reason to fight. They dont die for no reason fool. U_U
 

KazekageDaichi

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Feb 24, 2011
Messages
1,057
Reaction score
26
Thats how every story ends dumbass :nexus:

How stupid would if be if Naruto died? Those characters u named off are called Supporting Characters. They help the plot get better, and they help the Main character get better. Nub :sy:

Go cry somewhere else :flaw:

Show some respect.It's his opinion.Are you offended because he said that about the manga? Kid,please...
 

Yveltal

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Messages
5,497
Reaction score
523
Imo: Kishi is like losing his drive,or motivation, I hope he gets his drive back over the break
 
Last edited:

Zohaku

Member
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
120
Reaction score
4
I agree with what they say but no naruto hasnt become a dbz like because for one thing you see madara and hes still kicking ass compared to the other characters madara has been known as a god now the thing i dont like is that no name characters have been dieing but you dont see no important characters die. Now for Sasuke he has been my favorite character and always will be and whether or not how this show will end its still have a good plot.
Now you cant judge on how the show/manga is going to end because if anything kishi could pull a twist and make both character sasuke and naruto die or make sasuke kill naruto and changes sasuke view on the world because of the lost of a friend. It can always change and some prove watch code geass when you actually see the hole name it has the main characters name in the title and the main character ends up dieing at the end so the title doesnt really matter. So anything can happen just the only thing that i dont like is that no important character have really died in this war yet and if they get rid of madara without him takin out at least one of the kages then i will be kinda disappointing.
 

-Haku Yuki-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 4, 2011
Messages
21,841
Reaction score
952
Am I the only one who, by now, only reads the manga because it would be too bad to quit after going through all of it?

And for this precise reason : all the great characters have died. Most of the shinobi left alive for the war are boring, except for a few.

I mean ok, Madara + Tobi, Naruto, Kabuto and the Kages, they may have cool jutsu. But what do they fight for, besides "peace" and "world domination"?

Jiraya, Itachi, Nagato, Konan, the Akatsuki, Orochimaru, Hiruzen, and who else.. most of which died because the plot required them to. They had their individual beliefs and were much less generic than the remaining ones.

We all know that Madara and Tobi will be done by a main-character no jutsu even though they're completely overpowered by now. And we also all know the plot between Naruto and Sasuke will end exactly like Goku and Vegeta in Dragonball Z. This isn't Sasuke Shippuden.

your saying sauske gonna knock naruto out go fight tobi die and anruto will later finish tobi off with the help of dead sasuke? :confused: taht what i get by your ending. because in dbz vegaaeta tricked goku and went to go stop buu himself and died later he helped goku defeat buu but vegata was dead ( and tehres no dragon balls in naruto)

also they are suppsoed to become over pwoered end of the manga equals epic fight and for the fight to be epic enough the people fighting need to be Op as hell
 
Last edited:

Zohaku

Member
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
120
Reaction score
4
no sasuke and naruto are goin to defeat tobi its a no brainer think about what naruto said before with sasuke and naruto being the perfect teammates because of their chakra natures.
And again this is not like dbz if anything Bleach which use to be a good show then it became more like dbz and got to the point in which if i really wanted to watch dbz i would just watch that because even dbz is that way i its still a good show and will never get old
 

Yondaime Namikaze

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Oct 25, 2011
Messages
1,398
Reaction score
88
I partially agree with you, i dont read naruto as often as before and now i can go with a episode or 2 without ever looking at it
None the less it is a good show
There are lots of trolls here , WORD OF ADVICE (IF YOU HATE IT THEN JUST DONT READ IT AS MUCH OR EVER )
 

-Haku Yuki-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 4, 2011
Messages
21,841
Reaction score
952
no sasuke and naruto are goin to defeat tobi its a no brainer think about what naruto said before with sasuke and naruto being the perfect teammates because of their chakra natures.
And again this is not like dbz if anything Bleach which use to be a good show then it became more like dbz and got to the point in which if i really wanted to watch dbz i would just watch that because even dbz is that way i its still a good show and will never get old

Naruto has always been good. yes kishi has made mistakes like how did hiruzen defeat hashirama and tobirama if they are so strong, but who doesn't make mistakes. kishi still had teh deceit naruto vs kakazu he fooled him with shadow clones. and as we reach the end of the manga people want to see epic world shattering fights for us thats madara vs five kages. just enjoy the manga your reading for free and like it or stop reading doesn't affect kihsi he's not making money off of you anyway since you read his manga online for free which is illegal :| we're lucky to read it at all i have enjoyed every chapter just because i loved the seris so much. i don't go

**** you kishi for making jirya die no i cried and enjoied it. i didin't say i'm done reading the manga forever when we thought hinata was dead :| no i read the manga and enjoyed it its what kishi wants he wrote it deal with it.
 

EnvyMyApex

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Apr 22, 2012
Messages
2,234
Reaction score
466
The only thing I miss is his old drawing style, it was way more unique in my opinion.

You must be registered for see images
 

Zohaku

Member
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
120
Reaction score
4
Naruto has always been good. yes kishi has made mistakes like how did hiruzen defeat hashirama and tobirama if they are so strong, but who doesn't make mistakes. kishi still had teh deceit naruto vs kakazu he fooled him with shadow clones. and as we reach the end of the manga people want to see epic world shattering fights for us thats madara vs five kages. just enjoy the manga your reading for free and like it or stop reading doesn't affect kihsi he's not making money off of you anyway since you read his manga online for free which is illegal :| we're lucky to read it at all i have enjoyed every chapter just because i loved the seris so much. i don't go

**** you kishi for making jirya die no i cried and enjoied it. i didin't say i'm done reading the manga forever when we thought hinata was dead :| no i read the manga and enjoyed it its what kishi wants he wrote it deal with it.

What are you trying to say?
What you jsut wrote has nothing to do with what i just type. seriously Im not saying that its a bad show or any of that all i was saying is that it still isnt done and many things can happen this show has been known to show twists so i dont understand what your trying to say for my previous comment.
 

Redd

Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
340
Reaction score
12
Awwwww poor you naruto sucks now. STFU if you dont like it dont read it, who cares if you liked it before, if its that bad dont read it.
Kishi does but I thought that would've been obvious.
 

nateduece

Member
Joined
Apr 27, 2009
Messages
193
Reaction score
15
Its HIS manga. He's letting the story unfold the way he wants.
 

~WastelandSociety~

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 14, 2011
Messages
5,164
Reaction score
353
Kishi didn't ruin the manga. If you don't like it then don't read it. Simple.
 

Zavage10

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 12, 2012
Messages
3,801
Reaction score
269
Shit if you don't like it don't read it.
 

Sephy100

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Apr 3, 2012
Messages
1,909
Reaction score
131
In part 1 all the enemies were overpowered but then the main characters overcame them with training, hard work, struggling as well as plot no jutsu. People need to grow up and evolve their powers. Minato is overpowered but no one ever complains about him or takes anything away from him during vs battles while they take away something the uchihas are born with. My point is that you have to be better than the last generation. And in DBZ the new generation was weaker than the old generation.
 

eyesofthekyuubi44

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jun 14, 2009
Messages
3,984
Reaction score
392
We've been wanting to know who Tobi is for HOW long now?

Around... Five years?

And yet we STILL have yet to find out who he is. I'd say he is the biggest mystery in the manga. We've had five years of Tobi theories, and the moment his mask is removed you best believe you aren't going to want to visit Narutobase for about two months due to the "I KNEW IT!" threads that will be made.
 

Mante

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Dec 21, 2010
Messages
6,613
Reaction score
399
I don't think manga is ruined. But anime is ruined because of the fillers. In-between every 20 episodes we have 1256948243 filler episodes lol
 
Joined
Apr 11, 2012
Messages
194
Reaction score
6
dude stop reading Naruto manga if you dont like it. dont waste ur time reading and complaining something that you eventually realised how you actually dislike it. just drop it already
 
Top