Nagato outsmarted/overpowered by Itachi

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sharingan > rinnegan because sharingan can switch to rinnegan which mean sharingan have them both. rinnegan like nagato don't have sharingan too. itachi alway surprise.. its true nagato powers is better than itachi. but battle between those two is unknown.
 

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that is what ive been tring to tell these people! Thank you! Doesn't matter about strong. e.g shamiknara impossible to beat hidan but he did! So i thought about itachi same things. sweet!
 

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Nagato might have a very wide range of jutsu but Itachi can easily discern his opponent's jutsu and always finds a way to counter them. Intelligence is also a key factor in battle, not just power. Not to mention, Itachi himself is also powerful.


that is what ive been tring to tell these people! Thank you! Doesn't matter about strong. e.g shamiknara impossible to beat hidan but he did! So i thought about itachi same things. sweet!
 

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Its funny when we have members who accuse others of doing something they themselves are very well known for doing. They arent very smart are they or hypocrites perhaps?.

Op as i said you draw negative attention. Nagato is favourite but a win isnt guaranteed as majority of people think
 

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Then idk, Wiki gets it's facts from databook, and also tobi lies sometimes. :confused:
I'm shaky about using the Naruto wiki as a main source of information. For example the part where Izanagi can apparently be used without Hashirama's power... not a page in the manga can back that up. It doesn't even consider Tobi's clear statement: outright saying Izanagi needs Uchiha and Senju powers to be used.

Tobi lies when need be, in that situation he had no reason to lie.

Because it can be interpreted that he only meant that senju dna is needed to prolong it, cause thats the real usage of it, otherwise its useless in battle, and not wise to use it, and thus it can be complied with what Itachi said. And if izanami doesnt require senju dna then why izanagi does?
It cannot be interpreted as that because Tobi's language is clear in all three scans I gave you: Izanagi needs Senju DNA and Uchiha DNA to even be used.

It is an association fallacy to say "because of Izanagi then Izanami must". Just because Izanagi requires Senju DNA and Izanami doesn't, it doesn't mean that Izanagi doesn't need Senju DNA. It just means Izanami doesn't need Senju DNA, whilst Izanagi does.
 
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I did hear a good point the only chance he has got is izanagi and that is no way out, backed in a corner, last second desperate. Itachi knows his place when he is dead or alive. To his credit he has quite a track record since showing up on the battle field, comperable to only Madara and Naruto. But He just gets overwelmed by Nagato even if itachi was healthy it would be a hell of fight to see fight. Nagato is that man
 

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The strongest Man in the akatsuki read it not now itachi is dead the strongest man in the akatsuki

It says the strongest of all the akatsuki that includes Itachi and Tobi ...know pain
Every post you finish with "know pain" you're the ultimate fanboy and no logic can get through to you. Genjutsu f***** up pains paths before. Itachi can cast genjutsu by just pointing his finger.... KNOW ITACHI
 

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#Junkai
Nagato was immobile. He couldnt even walk on his own. And if he was actually fighting Itachi he would have used shinra tensei right when he sensed it. Just like bee through his sword to make Itachi stop.
?????is that an excuses? because as far as i remember nagato got cought with his super senses by amataresu!. we know he cant walk is all about spaming overmehimn jutsus and that it. not skills a all imply.

Ok even if Nagato gets hit with Amatarasu what happens....it burns for a few seconds....then he brushes it off with Deva Path Ability like he did in the manga...

or he just absorbs it with Preta Path ability......

Itachi's ONLY chance is to hit him with Tsukuyomi at the start of the fight...

Nagato wins 90% of the time....
If you read the manga like we all did, nagato burned not for a few seconds, he burned while itachi was talking about his story.. that took a while.

Nagato was an Edo+regeneration i dont think edos even suffer pain from their wounds they just regenerat it, minutes laters nagato used shinra.. amataresu one more time and thats it... no one will save him.

Jutsus take concentration out of the shinnobis, if nagato get burned he will lose concentration because the pain and sensation of being burned will take all his concentration away to the pain he is suffering. get real!

Preta can not absorb it, we saw that he had to uses shinra.
The idiot is feeling pain! this does not work like that like if nagato were inmune to pain..
can you imagine what feels to be burn, do you think ull be able to peformance a dutie, stuff, math homework, walk with sanity while being burn.. oh my! people needs to get real.

Nagato chibaku at the end of it, he will see 2 sharingan eyes on his back, then realised that all was a genjutsu. that sounds like itachi!..
the thing is not that if itachi use genjutsu at the begining the thing is that, itachi always uses genjutsu, and you get cought in yoyoyomi in a blink of an eye..
 

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I'm shaky about using the Naruto wiki as a main source of information. For example the part where Izanagi can apparently be used without Hashirama's power... not a page in the manga can back that up. It doesn't even consider Tobi's clear statement: outright saying Izanagi needs Uchiha and Senju powers to be used.

Tobi lies when need be, in that situation he had no reason to lie.



It cannot be interpreted as that because Tobi's language is clear in all three scans I gave you: Izanagi needs Senju DNA and Uchiha DNA to even be used.

It is an association fallacy to say "because of Izanagi then Izanami must". Just because Izanagi requires Senju DNA and Izanami doesn't, it doesn't mean that Izanagi doesn't need Senju DNA. It just means Izanami doesn't need Senju DNA, whilst Izanagi does.
Again has I said the manga itself isn't always clear on some statements and contradicts itself therefore it is still open that izanami doesn't require senju DNA. Again tobi himself in that same scan labeled it a Uchiha technique.Why didn't he call it a Senju/Uchiha Tech ?
 

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as long as the writer of this manga is kishi.itachi can beat anyone.kishi doesnt let his favourite character getting beaten by others
 

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I just realized this when re-reading the part when Itachi got out of Kabuto's control and fought Nagato who was fully controlled by Kabuto. He blinded Nagato's summons and found a way to defeat Chibaku Tensei. Itachi even helped Naruto and B break free from Nagato, both are helpless and could have been killed if it weren't for Itachi's presence. Finally, he was the one who sealed Nagato. So I do believe that Itachi could be a very difficult opponent for Nagato and has chances of beating him.xd
Without Naruto and Bee helping him he never would've accomplished that. And it's not that hard to outsmart someone who's being controlled -_-

And in terms of power Nagato>>>>>Itachi. It's really not even close. Itachi would have a chance though, but only through genjutsu. Other than that Nagato has Itachi outclassed.
 
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