Does the Rinnegan require Senju DNA - Yes or No + Reason.

[Cerox0]

aren't senju and uzumaki practically the same??
And if not, it's been started that they're related do wouldn't they have the "Ys" dna?

They're not, they'e distant cousins. And regardless it is not the same as Senju.


That's like saying the Hyuga are the same as the Uchiha.

 

[Naruto the wind]

Yes rinnegan requires senju dna
People says that rinnegan is next step of ems awakend in the near death situvation then why didnt rinnegan not activated while madara fighting with first and why madara from leaf choose nagato a little kid from amagakure why didnt he gave it to someone else

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

no man ems doesn't evolve into rinnengan Madara had senju dna that is why he has rinnengan because if ems could evolve into rinnengan Itachi would have rinnengn

Itachi never had EMS.

 

[Hipster Madara]

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What books are you guys reading?

well, when you "progress" to get EMS, new eyes are required. so to "progress" sharingan into rinnegan, senju dna is necessary.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

While it is plausable that because Madara awakaned the Rinnegan conveniently after he got Hashirama's senju DNA, IMO I don't think so.

A Senju could not have the EMS as we have not seen one with it

He said it himself "It's what awaits beyond the EMS", nothing about Senju DNA.

Plus Nagato was not a Senju and he had the Rinnegan.

agree completely.

and nagato had it cause it was implanted not cause he awakened it

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Personally I believe it is necessary for an EMS to be able to evolve into the Rinnegan. Why else would Madara want Hashirama's DNA? I think he found out how to unlock the dojutsu by looking at the Uchiha tablet, and this is what motivated him into challenging Hashirama in the VOTE battle. I also think it is fitting that the Rinnegan requires both the Uchiha and Senju DNA because the So6P, who had the Rinnegan, was both Uchiha and Senju. Just my take on things so far.

Makes sense I am going with this for now. Madara had EMS so he could possible read more then anyone else that we know. Maybe if sasuke read the tablet now he might see something about this.

 

[Cerox0]

well, when you "progress" to get EMS, new eyes are required. so to "progress" sharingan into rinnegan, senju dna is necessary.

Is this the way it has to be? Must you chose to oppose me? Lol D:

The same way Sharingan progresses into MS, EMS etc the Rinnegan is the next step of EMS.

I said it was plausable that he conveniently had Senju DNA while unlocking Rinnegan but that doesn't prove it.

As for Nagato he was Implanted with it so he does not count.

You guys forget Tobi has the rinnegan, and it is not stated he is a senju but had sharingan in both eyes so it can be assumed he is an Uchiha.


In other words we have seen an Uchiha with Rinnegan
But not a Senju with the Rinnegan

Nowhere was it stated you need senju DNA, but it wa sstated that EMS turns into the Rinnegan. With that logic we can assume no senju is required for what we know.


But this is just my opinion.

 

[Rosco Wellington]

I don't think so. Uchihas need powers from another clan to evolve their kkg? It doesn't make sense to me personally. So does this mean a senju receives the rinnegan if they take a uchihas eyes?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Basically we don't know and we will have to wait and see

I thought maybe I missed something but the truth is only kishi knows

We can believe what we like for now but people s top stating things in other threads

and start the sentence with "I believe" or "I think"

 

[Maunten]

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I think so...

 

[Munboy]

When Kabuto said the Sharingan can get to the Rinnegan, Madara felt the need to bring up the secrets of his body. Likely this was the Hashirama face he had on his chest. A lot of things point to Senju DNA combined with Uchiha being vital.

Six Paths power is power of the Six Paths - the Rinnegan. To obtain that you need Uchiha and Senju DNA. It is clear that the author wants us to think that the Rinnegan requires Uchiha and Senju powers.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Personally I believe it is necessary for an EMS to be able to evolve into the Rinnegan. Why else would Madara want Hashirama's DNA? I think he found out how to unlock the dojutsu by looking at the Uchiha tablet, and this is what motivated him into challenging Hashirama in the VOTE battle. I also think it is fitting that the Rinnegan requires both the Uchiha and Senju DNA because the So6P, who had the Rinnegan, was both Uchiha and Senju. Just my take on things so far.

Yes rinnegan requires senju dna
People says that rinnegan is next step of ems awakend in the near death situvation then why didnt rinnegan not activated while madara fighting with first and why madara from leaf choose nagato a little kid from amagakure why didnt he gave it to someone else

These are the best points I have seen. +rep for you both

 

[Disquiet]

I agree there's no solid proof either way, but I believe it doesn't. Will edit this post.


Here, Kabuto "Hypothesizes" that rinnegan is the next step after sharingan. This hypothesis is confirmed is what Kabuto is saying. The rinnegan is without a doubt a tech of the Uchiha clan.

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In this scan, Kabuto states that he did something to Madara's body. Note that Madara isn't surprised about having the rinnegan as he stated he unlocked shortly after his death.

But...He goes on to use God-like techniques, which Kabuto claims he gave him.

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Here, Kabuto tells Madara that he knows about his surviving the battle, and "gaining" a portion of Hashirama's strength.

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Now, immediately after Kabuto tells him that he "gained" his strength, Madara check under his clothes. Remember the part where Kabuto states he did something to his body.

Gained his actual dna, but never used it on himself? I think that's likely. Also, let's not forget Tobi, who has senju DNA. And is a partner of Madara. He could have used it solely for him.

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Now here, after Madara discovers Hashirama's DNA, he says he wants to try Mokuton. This implies that he didn't know about Hashirama's DNA being inside his body.

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Here Kishi confirms that he has Hashi's DNA. Several chapters later. Which Kabuto implanted in him. It seems to me as he's separating the two. Senju DNA, and the rinnegan.

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Also, if senju+uchiha= rinnegan. Then Madara should have suspected right away that Kabuto hypothesis was senju+uchiha=rinnegan. And not be surprised that Hashi's DNA was implanted into him. But he wasn't, he continued on to use the rinnegan. And then the mokuton after Kabuto revealed it to him. It seems he wan't aware that he even had Hashi's DNA in his body, lol.


In short, they were both separated. There's Madara (Uchiha) and rinnegan, and then there's Hashirama (Senju) and Mokuton, and his other abilites.

 

[Netsui]

Basically we don't know and we will have to wait and see

I thought maybe I missed something but the truth is only kishi knows

We can believe what we like for now but people s top stating things in other threads

and start the sentence with "I believe" or "I think"

But the "I believe" or "I think" shows that it's our opinion. There's nothing wrong with sharing our opinion on this thread, right? This is a thread that was made before, but oh well. The OP wanted an answer, and everybody gave their opinion. We add the "I believe" or "I think" to show that it's our opinion, and that we don't believe that it's a fact. And we know that Kishi is the only one that knows, but we can at least put our opinion. Just like you, I put down my opinion on the matter, and then I also believe I stated that I would wait and see if somebody else gets the Rinnegan, and hopefully that will show which side is right.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

When Kabuto said the Sharingan can get to the Rinnegan, Madara felt the need to bring up the secrets of his body. Likely this was the Hashirama face he had on his chest. A lot of things point to Senju DNA combined with Uchiha being vital.

Six Paths power is power of the Six Paths - the Rinnegan. To obtain that you need Uchiha and Senju DNA. It is clear that the author wants us to think that the Rinnegan requires Uchiha and Senju powers.

Great points I however will just wait for kishi on this one.

 

[Champ]

No Kabuto said EMS evolves into the Rinnegan

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

But the "I believe" or "I think" shows that it's our opinion. There's nothing wrong with sharing our opinion on this thread, right? This is a thread that was made before, but oh well. The OP wanted an answer, and everybody gave their opinion. We add the "I believe" or "I think" to show that it's our opinion, and that we don't believe that it's a fact. And we know that Kishi is the only one that knows, but if we wait for the answers then what's the point of having opinions and predictions?

True, but I am just talking about this topic not others, I have seen so much on both sides that I actually got confused I thought I missed something. For this topic I will just wait for kishi. I was saying in other post give your opinions by starting with I think or I believe not just saying this is how it is. This show be done so people show know it is what they believe and not how it is.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Is this the way it has to be? Must you chose to oppose me? Lol D:

The same way Sharingan progresses into MS, EMS etc the Rinnegan is the next step of EMS.

I said it was plausable that he conveniently had Senju DNA while unlocking Rinnegan but that doesn't prove it.

As for Nagato he was Implanted with it so he does not count.

You guys forget Tobi has the rinnegan, and it is not stated he is a senju but had sharingan in both eyes so it can be assumed he is an Uchiha.


In other words we have seen an Uchiha with Rinnegan
But not a Senju with the Rinnegan

Nowhere was it stated you need senju DNA, but it wa sstated that EMS turns into the Rinnegan. With that logic we can assume no senju is required for what we know.


But this is just my opinion.

alright, here we go.
the elder son never had rinnegan, so how is it possible that uchiha can unlock something that has always been missing from their genes?
no. the need the other half of so6p's dna ---> younger son ----> senju/uzumaki

the reason in which senju have never gotten rinnegan is simply because they have never implanted ems into themselves, as ems is rare and the wielders too powerful as well as the fact that the only senju powerful enough to get it (hashirama), wasn't greedy enough to take madara's eyes.

to support this, nagato was given madara's eyes and thus unlocked rinnegan because uzumaki are distantly related to senju/younger son so now he had the requirements for rinnegan.

 

[Naruto9001]

These are the best points I have seen. +rep for you both

What about mine? Did you read mine?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I think you either need to be related to a uchiha or a senju to have the rinnegan since Tobi gave it to Nagato, Why would Tobi give it to a random kid? My theory that Nagato is compatable to the rinnegan since his a uzumaki.

Good point, but this is basically saying that you do need senju dna to acquire rinnegan. Of course you have to be related to the uchiha or senju this is obvious.