When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

So after Reading the Who Thread DO you Think Naruto using Kurama is Fair ???

  • YES it is Fair

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  • NO Its Not Fair .

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Anorien16

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I swear u do not know your facts

Well Narutopedia and manga supports my facts, so can u swear against them? if not point out where i m wrong. Then i shall see who is wrong and who is not.

I dont think u can, also so swearing wont work cos:
Manga/Narutopedia >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ur Opinion

If u still doubt pls point out where i m wrong, instead of just swearing and whining only u can be right.
 
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I tried to read this but the grammer was so bad I couldn't finish it. Sorry.
 

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okay its like this naruto and sasuke were both given super talents by fate naruto recieved 9 tails sasuke gets sharingan which by the way lets him unlock much more powers amataresu sussano and lets him learn and master almost any element and control 9 tails well if not now due to 4ths seal all naruto got was a massive charka power up everything else he achieved was through bllod sweat and tears i tend to think that sasuke has the advantage all the real powers sasuke has were handed down to him elements (sharingan easy learn) (sussano amatersu tsukanyo cant spell it ) did not work for it just felt extreme emotion but i guess karin he did work to achieve other than that no
 

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Please keep the Global Rules in mind:

Specifically,

Multi-posting: Posting one post after another in any thread is not allowed. This means making a new post directly below another post of yours (double/triple/multi-posting) will be considered spaming and will be thus treated.

I'm going to fix a few of them for now, but if I see any more in this thread, I will start handing out infractions. I'm half-tempted to close the thread, but you guys are still somewhat on-topic and aren't fighting, so keep it that way.
 

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oh my base sasuke is sasuke with 3 tomoe sharingan, take that away he can't even use chidori, with that sasuke can only do some taijutsu and some fire attack :sy:

and No, Naruto can't throw rasen shuriken in base mode. so he can't use it

The only reason he can throw it in the first place is because of his manipulation of natural energy in SM. Recall Fukasaku's explanation about how senjutsu increases the range of your attacks? That's basically what Naruto does when he throws the FRS; he uses natural energy to propel the attack away from his hand and towards his enemy.

This is why his Kawazu Kumite training was needed before he successfully completed the attack during his senjutsu training. He learned how to attack things from a distance during this training.

This is true but, in base mode Naruto is still able to use such things as the Odon Rasegan, which i think at this point he could pull off a few of them with his clones still in base mode. That alone kind of throws Sasuke's Chidori in the trash, i mean the only reason Naruto and Sasuke always have standoffs when they charge with Rasengan and Chidori is because Naruto doesnt want to kill the emo boy.... (i wish he just would....) So if Sasuke where to step up to the plate with say his Juin Chidori, or even Chidori Nagashi it would be useless. 3 odon rasegan's coming at him... he's bound to miss one (base form people) ..... Take Naruto's strongest base form jutsu vs Sasuke's..... not a chance.

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ok guys if we wanna get technical about this, then in BASE MODE!!!

Naruto's most powerful technique
Odon Rasengan (Which is him just pumping a massive amount of Chakra into a normal rasengan)
Shadow Clone Jutsu!

NOW put those two Jutsu together and im thinking maybe.... 2 clones which makes 3 Giant Rasengans coming at sasuke.

Sasukes most powerful attacks in BASE MODE!!! (no MS)

Chidori Wave (Don't feel like spelling it out)
Chidori....

(ok guys everyone remembers the valley of end fight.... what was naruto's objective in that fight towards the end??? scratching Sasuke's headband, and do you all remember whenever they fought on the roof tops???? Who's attack was stronger????)

NOW! all this in effect without using his sharigan, Sasuke could possibly take out the 2 clones with his chidori wave, but them dropping suck a large amount of chakra wuold create large explotions and without his sharigan he wouldnt be able to focus as much. So when he turned to see a third Odon coming at him... even if he put everything he had into a chidori he would die!!!!

BUT! Naruto doesnt want to kill him guys, if he did he would have done it at the valley instead he scratched his headband.... everytime Naruto and sasuke clash with there Chidori's and rasengan who holds back??? Naruto because??? he doesnt wanna kill the emo kid.

Sorry ****** fanboys but, Base mode sage mode kumaru mode (or whatever) ..... Naruto is stronger... and if you guys try and say "Well maybe Sasuke will be able to use the MS and R at the same time!!!" Hell no Uchiha Madara can't even do that and he's pretty much god.

Sorrry for bursting your bubble's guys XD (BTW Naruto would be stupid enough to pull off at least one close up Rasenshuriken if he had to, and i bet he would have a line of clones ready to pull him away from the blast :) Sasuke = Dead PEACE!!!
 
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Stop with the "If". There is no If in Naruto, the show is as it is, nothing will change even if u cry a river, Naruto and Sasuke are 2 very important pieces in Naruto, talking about one of them without their given power (by Kishi) is nonsence. Now everybody is entitled to their opinion but that doesn't mean every1 should create a new thread every time they want to show it to the world, + most of the ones who start a thread like this one always try to impose their opinion as fact, in the end we are all fanboys.
PS: Sasuke Rocks \m/.
 

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hi i think that even without kurama naruto will beat sasuke anytime anyday for instance naruto in his sage mode would probably destroy sasuke's susanoo with one blow and finish sasuke off with rasenshuriken
 
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hi i think that even without kurama naruto will beat sasuke anytime anyday for instance naruto in his sage mode would probably destroy sasuke's susanoo with one blow and finish sasuke off with rasenshuriken

Ur overrating Naruto.......
 

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Sasuke C2>Naruto 1 tails
Sasuke kirin>4 tails naruto
Sasuke MS=Sage mode
Sasuke EMS=NAruto KCM
Sasuke rinnegan=Biji 2 mode

Kirin > 4 tails? So you're telling me that one tech can out do oro's tech's that couldn't even pierce the 4 tails? GENIUS!!!
 

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i agree to that... remove sharingan and rinnegan sasuke will be useless....
 

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katon,chidori,quilin,masslightning release usage usless?:p
I think this:

Also remember base naruto is not that weak and a good match for sasuke:
1. In base stats naruto still has SM
2. Without Kurama ma and pa can fuse with naruto and indefinately extend SM and also provide sauiton, fuuton, katon, genjutsu techs and can also release genjutsu if naruto falls under it. (Dont complain if sasuke's summons are not that cool)
3. Dont count on kirin, it requires stormclouds to perform. Sasuke needs hell lot of heat to form clouds, two or three katons not gona do the trick. Sasuke need a lot of time before he can use that and naruto can just blow the clouds away with wind release. Personally i would like to see a rasensuriken and kirin clash. (In fight with itachi it was more of an plot no jutsu and also had help from the extreme heat from amaterasu)
4. Naruto in sage mode has a great power boost to all jutsu, speed, endurance and a near 33% chakra boost.
5. Those who complain naruto has no base chakra check out these facts: both Gaara and Kushina had their bijuu removed, but kushina was able to hold down kurama (even tough she was exhausted) with her chakra chains and gaara can still use his sand powers effectively (even seems to be improving). In a nut shell, jinkchuriki's have high chakra even without their biju, so naruto do have high chakra as he held down kurama since birth plus he has uzumaki powers of strong chakra and life force.
6. Yes naruto needs clones to do most of his techs but needs only one for rasengan and two for rasensuriken, i think he can handle at least 3-4 clones in base mode. (Also note that when clones disappear they add their chakra to their user)
7. Without sharingan sasuke has only raiton and katon. Plus his reflexes will slower as he no longer can predict opponent's moves and genjutsu skill will be much reduced.
8. Lee once defaeted Sasuke easily (just before chunin exams), so can he do it now? past is past.

Side note:
1. Dont complain why SM is included in base form but sharingan is not, its cos SM can be LEARNT, sasuke can learn SM but naruto can never LEARN SHARINGAN.
2. B4 u call me or anyone who agrees with me a fanboy or just simply say sasuke can beat naruto bcos he is sasuke, can u prove my points wrong? OR in anyway prove why naruto is not at least an equal (if not greater than) of sasuke, even in base mode?
3. Even if sasuke is allwed to have MS, (Not EMS as the eyes are his brothers not his own) sasuke wld be blind or partially blind.
4. Two/Three tomeo sharingan can be allowed for a even match up. But it doesnt change things much.
5. For proof of my statements:
a. read the manga
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f. Use ur brain and think logically.
 

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the TS is wrong. sasuke has sharingan in his bloodline, kurama was given to naruto. thats like saying an athletic person because of genetics fights someone with slightly more endurance and a weapon. then you say Take away the athletic persons genetics( which is all he has) and take the person with slightly more endurances, weapon away. ITS NOT FAIR, sasuke is meant for greatness naruto was given greatness. Also naruto learned shadow clones from a scroll, he couldn't even do it before that. How would he even get rasengan if he didn't use clones at first. In summary sasuke all uchihas are born with sharingan in their future, and not all uzamikis are born with a freakin bijuu
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the TS is wrong. sasuke has sharingan in his bloodline, kurama was given to naruto. thats like saying an athletic person because of genetics fights someone with slightly more endurance and a weapon. then you say Take away the athletic persons genetics( which is all he has) and take the person with slightly more endurances, weapon away. ITS NOT FAIR, sasuke is meant for greatness naruto was given greatness. Also naruto learned shadow clones from a scroll, he couldn't even do it before that. How would he even get rasengan if he didn't use clones at first. In summary sasuke all uchihas are born with sharingan in their future, and not all uzamikis are born with a freakin bijuu
#BODYBAG

damn ive been waiting to see someone post that forever. plus rep, damn
 

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the TS is wrong. sasuke has sharingan in his bloodline, kurama was given to naruto. thats like saying an athletic person because of genetics fights someone with slightly more endurance and a weapon. then you say Take away the athletic persons genetics( which is all he has) and take the person with slightly more endurances, weapon away. ITS NOT FAIR, sasuke is meant for greatness naruto was given greatness. Also naruto learned shadow clones from a scroll, he couldn't even do it before that. How would he even get rasengan if he didn't use clones at first. In summary sasuke all uchihas are born with sharingan in their future, and not all uzamikis are born with a freakin bijuu
#BODYBAG

he would only have 3 tomoe sharingan without help...itachi gave him ems ....he was helped to get ms ...he couldnt have done it by himself. nor would he have if his brother didnt mess with his life...+ he should have died at the uchiha massacre but WAS given a chance to live by his brother... naruto getting kyuubi has is the same as sasuke is still alive...naruto has to constantly keep kyuubi in place it eats his chakra bit by bit...sasuke is supposed to be blind too.
 

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he would only have 3 tomoe sharingan without help...itachi gave him ems ....he was helped to get ms ...he couldnt have done it by himself. nor would he have if his brother didnt mess with his life...+ he should have died at the uchiha massacre but WAS given a chance to live by his brother... naruto getting kyuubi has is the same as sasuke is still alive...naruto has to constantly keep kyuubi in place it eats his chakra bit by bit...sasuke is supposed to be blind too.

Sasuke killed his brother and had 3 tomeo. He UNCLOCKED MS when he learned the truth about his brother. So no your theory is wrong. And shut the hell up about him not being blind. Naruto should be dead but nooooooo, kurama had to hive him bijuu mode huh? do you know how much more of a power up that is than ems?
 
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