Nagato awakened the rinnegan

[UchihaEye]

Y'all dumb, I really have to say... If his Nagato's eyes were implanted and he couldn't shut 'em off... How come his Rinnegan wasn't still activated when he was practicing wiv Jiraiya, Konan and Yahiko huh?!

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Y'all dumb, I really have to say... If his Nagato's eyes were implanted and he couldn't shut 'em off... How come his Rinnegan wasn't still activated when he was practicing wiv Jiraiya, Konan and Yahiko huh?!

Well it was so... yh, puts and end to what you say doesn't it.

 

[WoodElementUser]

Idk.....

What about Madara?
I dont understand your post but let me put this into perspective.

Sage- has rinnegan + juubi
power split EQUALLY between 2 sons:
Elder Son (ES) - has eyes
Younger son - has body

Seeing as the ES got the eyes and powerful chakra, it can be assumed that he possessed a watered-down version of rinnegan (that spiral looking thing). YS got the body and great amounts of chakra. Stamina is not a problem as powerful chakra and amount of chakra equal out, as i said in my post before.

The manga has stated that it is possible for rinnegan to be achieved by "evolving/upgrading" sharingan. Whether Senju DNA is needed is still up for debate.
Using common sense, we can infer that:
If you are a descendent of ES, you need the body, in form on DNA, which is what you are missing from your genes to unlock rinnegan.
If you are a descendent of YS, you need the eyes, which is what you are missing from your genes to unlock rinnegan.

Seeing as Nagato is an Uzumaki which branched from Senju, it can be inferred that he is missing the eyes. Logically, the only way for him to get rinnegan is through implanting eyes, as i stated above why. More proof of this is:
1. never seen nagato with rinnegan dis-activated, which has been a sign of implantation throughout the series via Kakashi
2. madara uchiha seems to have known who he was
3. Tobi said so (he doesnt ALWAYS lie, plus why would he lie to someone he was about to kill?)
4. As blaze release said, nagato was most likely chosen for his chakra supplies

Using this information, it can proved that his eyes were implanted, most likely from Uchiha Madara.
If there is any holes in this, please point them out, as i tried to be a thorough as possible.

Why i wasted time to make this when it was already obvious, i know not....

well respect bro kool..i live in nassau bahamas bro so i need to find fan out there who can teach and share opinion .

 

[Thane]

Even though we have reason to believe Nagato had Madara's eyes, I will choose to wait and see before I make assumptions.

Not only has Tobi lied before, but one might be able to awaken the Rinnegan without Uchiha/Senju cells. I mean, The Sage of the Six Paths presumably unlocked the Rinnegan without the Sharingan.

 

[-Logic-]

For those who are still not sure go read Blaze Release's post. That guys intelligence can be scary sometimes >.>

 

[narutokage99]

Didn't Madara said that he transplanted rinnegan to Nagato?

 

[Hipster Madara]

For those who are still not sure go read Blaze Release's post. That guys intelligence can be scary sometimes >.>

if you STILL don't get that, then read mine which explains why he would have to have his eyes implanted. if you STILL don't get it...... :|

 

[Tosen]

The leader i take it you are trolling?. Anyway the manga has made it very clear that nagato's rennigan was transplanted. He didnt activate it. First of all there is no such thing as activating the rinnegan to begin with, its a step from the sharingan therefore in order to activate the rennigan you must first have the sharingan and go up the stages;

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First of all nagato didnt activate the rennigan, it was given to him by madara. How do i know this. Firstly Tobi speaking as madara said it here;

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He speaking as madara prior to his fight with konan said that nagato was supposed to use rin tensei for him;

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So basically tobi talking as madara said that he gave nagato the rennigan, but also nagato was supposed to use rin tensei for him.

Now madara has clarified what tobi says. When madara first came out,the first person's name he said was nagato. He then said that it would appear that nagato had grown. This speak volumes. Madara gave nagato the rennigan, so that nagato would revive him later on, and thats exactly what tobi has said;

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Secondly how do i know that nagato's rennigan is transplanted. Well firstly because nagato didnt activate the rennigan. When nagato was a child, his hair had always covered his eyes. We never got to see his eyes, until when he beat that rock chunnin, during his training with jiraiya, did we see that he had the rennigan. He always had the rennigan, but didnt show it until the rock chunnin scenario.

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Also the rule with implanted dojutsu is still consistent if the member isnt an uchiha. For example, have you ever seen nagato turn off the rennigan?. Have you ever seen nagato do this;

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Sharingan;

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Rennigan;

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The fact that nagato cannot revert back and fort from the rennigan should tell you that it was transplanted. It a doujutsu has been transplanted and at the moment its transplanted it had the rennigan activated, thats the eye that would be transplanted and remain. No different to how the sharigan was at the time of transplant was activated therefore, thats what the receiver of the eye gets. This is constant with kakashi. At the time of of his transplant obito's eye was the sharigan therefore thats what remained consistent and kakashi cannot deactivate the sharigan no different to how nagato cannot deactivate the rennigan.

The next issue is why did madara give nagato the rennigan and i believe the kakashi and danzo scenario says it all. We know that if a non uchiha gains their eyes, because they do not have the body if they allow the sharigan to remain viisble it completely drains their chakra and thats why both kakashi and danzo have their sharigan eyes covered, to reduce the chakra drained.

Nagato on the underhand doesnt seem to have this problem because he is an uzumaki. Nagato has the powerful chakra that you could say rivals an uchiha for his rennigan eye to stay constant and not drain his chakra like kakashi and danzo who cover their sharigan. Basically here.
Kushina's powerful chakra;

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Nagato's powerful chakra;

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Thats what im saying. Madara gave the rennigan to someone with powerful chakra, because that is what is needed for such a doujutsu like the rennigan. If kakashi had the rennigan, id guarantee he'd run out of chakra in a minute xd.

Also note that madara has also been said to have very powerful chakra, even for uchiha standards;

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This was first said by kurama, who also compared sasuke's chakra to madara's;

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So basically madara gave nagato the rennigan because nagato like himself (madara), had powerful chakra, chakra powerful enough to withstand the rennigan

Lies who told u I was trolling though I did my job and have gotten this thread to the hottest section. God people are suckers for catchy threads

Anyhow the rinnegan being a stage of the sharingan is just a hypethesis of Kabuto, the rinnegan has senju like charatristics like utlizing powerful life force tech and requiring large amounts of stamina. Also the so6p might not have had the sharingan.

madara uchiha without senju cells can still use the rinnegan. he had enough chakra to fight a battle to the death with hahsi. he used chakra to control the kyubbi and he had enough chakra use PS and other techs. there is no proof suggesting that one needs senju dna to use the rinnegan.

He had powerful chakra no doubt but he lacked Nagato or senju stamina.

 

[WoodElementUser]

Didn't Madara said that he transplanted rinnegan to Nagato?

Tobi said that ...like i explain...it was like.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Lies who told u I was trolling though I did my job and have gotten this thread to the hottest section. God people are suckers for catchy threads

Anyhow the rinnegan being a stage of the sharingan is just a hypethesis of Kabuto, the rinnegan has senju like charatristics like utlizing powerful life force tech and requiring large amounts of stamina. Also the so6p might not have had the sharingan.



He had powerful chakra no doubt but he lacked Nagato or senju stamina.

You was trolling yh right :sy: realised you was wrong more like

 

[Hipster Madara]

Lies who told u I was trolling though I did my job and have gotten this thread to the hottest section. God people are suckers for catchy threads

Anyhow the rinnegan being a stage of the sharingan is just a hypethesis of Kabuto, the rinnegan has senju like charatristics like utlizing powerful life force tech and requiring large amounts of stamina. Also the so6p might not have had the sharingan.



He had powerful chakra no doubt but he lacked Nagato or senju stamina.

So you made a retarded thread just for attention?

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Or did you just realize that you failed and couldn't get enough people to support your lame theory?

 

[arv993]

The leader i take it you are trolling?. Anyway the manga has made it very clear that nagato's rennigan was transplanted. He didnt activate it. First of all there is no such thing as activating the rinnegan to begin with, its a step from the sharingan therefore in order to activate the rennigan you must first have the sharingan and go up the stages;

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First of all nagato didnt activate the rennigan, it was given to him by madara. How do i know this. Firstly Tobi speaking as madara said it here;

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He speaking as madara prior to his fight with konan said that nagato was supposed to use rin tensei for him;

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So basically tobi talking as madara said that he gave nagato the rennigan, but also nagato was supposed to use rin tensei for him.

Now madara has clarified what tobi says. When madara first came out,the first person's name he said was nagato. He then said that it would appear that nagato had grown. This speak volumes. Madara gave nagato the rennigan, so that nagato would revive him later on, and thats exactly what tobi has said;

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Secondly how do i know that nagato's rennigan is transplanted. Well firstly because nagato didnt activate the rennigan. When nagato was a child, his hair had always covered his eyes. We never got to see his eyes, until when he beat that rock chunnin, during his training with jiraiya, did we see that he had the rennigan. He always had the rennigan, but didnt show it until the rock chunnin scenario.

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Also the rule with implanted dojutsu is still consistent if the member isnt an uchiha. For example, have you ever seen nagato turn off the rennigan?. Have you ever seen nagato do this;

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Sharingan;

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Ems;

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Rennigan;

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The fact that nagato cannot revert back and fort from the rennigan should tell you that it was transplanted. It a doujutsu has been transplanted and at the moment its transplanted it had the rennigan activated, thats the eye that would be transplanted and remain. No different to how the sharigan was at the time of transplant was activated therefore, thats what the receiver of the eye gets. This is constant with kakashi. At the time of of his transplant obito's eye was the sharigan therefore thats what remained consistent and kakashi cannot deactivate the sharigan no different to how nagato cannot deactivate the rennigan.

The next issue is why did madara give nagato the rennigan and i believe the kakashi and danzo scenario says it all. We know that if a non uchiha gains their eyes, because they do not have the body if they allow the sharigan to remain viisble it completely drains their chakra and thats why both kakashi and danzo have their sharigan eyes covered, to reduce the chakra drained.

Nagato on the underhand doesnt seem to have this problem because he is an uzumaki. Nagato has the powerful chakra that you could say rivals an uchiha for his rennigan eye to stay constant and not drain his chakra like kakashi and danzo who cover their sharigan. Basically here.
Kushina's powerful chakra;

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Nagato's powerful chakra;

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Thats what im saying. Madara gave the rennigan to someone with powerful chakra, because that is what is needed for such a doujutsu like the rennigan. If kakashi had the rennigan, id guarantee he'd run out of chakra in a minute xd.

Also note that madara has also been said to have very powerful chakra, even for uchiha standards;

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This was first said by kurama, who also compared sasuke's chakra to madara's;

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So basically madara gave nagato the rennigan because nagato like himself (madara), had powerful chakra, chakra powerful enough to withstand the rennigan

+rep
u really went all out but dont bother some people wont change.
And the prt about the reason why nagato was given the rinnegan makes sense. But another reason why i think its given to him is so that tobi can still lurk in thee shadows and go on with his plan

 

[Tosen]

You was trolling yh right :sy: realised you was wrong more like

not rly wasn't trolling i actually believe in this fact U_U :flaw:

sometimes the truth isn't the popular view

So you made a retarded thread just for attention?

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meh not really been saying it for months now that nagato awakened the rinnegan

 

[Thane]

I'm still going with my "wait-and-see" approach. Wouldn't it be nasty if three people all had Madara's eyes? Euh...

Seriously though, people who are utterly convinced Nagato has Madara's eyes (no, I'm not arguing against it), do you believe TOBI gave Nagato the eyes, or do you think Madara did it himself? Or are Tobi and Madara the same guy?

 

[Hipster Madara]

not rly wasn't trolling i actually believe in this fact U_U :flaw:

sometimes the truth isn't the popular view


meh not really been saying it for months now that nagato awakened the rinnegan

if he did awaken the rinnegan:
1. how would that move the plot forward at all? It would probably regress the plot, actually.
2. kishi just plainly screwed up.
3. no one would really care since he is sealed and gone now, only reason it matters atm is because now sasuke can get rinnegan (do not want). U_U

 

[Tosen]

I'm still going with my "wait-and-see" approach. Wouldn't it be nasty if three people all had Madara's eyes? Euh...

Seriously though, people who are utterly convinced Nagato has Madara's eyes (no, I'm not arguing against it), do you believe TOBI gave Nagato the eyes, or do you think Madara did it himself? Or are Tobi and Madara the same guy?

Despite the thread title I am of this opinion though leaning on the nagato awakened the rinnegan part

and I believe if Nagato recieved the rinnegan than it was from Tobi has Madara died shortly before gaining the rinnegan.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

3. no one would really care since he is sealed and gone now

This point right here is so true.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Despite the thread title I am of this opinion though leaning on the nagato awakened the rinnegan part

and I believe if Nagato recieved the rinnegan than it was from Tobi has Madara died shortly before gaining the rinnegan.

how is that possible? xd

 

[Tosen]

if he did awaken the rinnegan:
1. how would that move the plot forward at all? It would probably regress the plot, actually.
2. kishi just plainly screwed up.
3. no one would really care since he is sealed and gone now, only reason it matters atm is because now sasuke can get rinnegan (do not want). U_U

1st bolded part: how so?

2nd bolded part: Tbh this is true and I also do not want though i'd rather have Sasuke get the rinnegan than Naruto.

This point right here is so true.

Atleast his more important then any hyuuga just sayin xd (though I wish the hyuuga were taken a lil more seriously by kishi)

 

[leafninja23]

It wasnt given to him. Its a mutation he is a direct descendant of so6p who also got his threw mutation