Asuma vs Sound four

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Asuma was able to kill nine Otogakure ninja, who were stated to be of chūnin-level. Do you think He can beat sound four?
 

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if hes not suicidal than sakon could beat him. kidomaru happened to meet his worst matchup and i cant see asuma breaking his gold armour/webs.

sound 5 are oros elite bodyguards and can all go CS2. theyve beaten off two jounins before
 

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Any of the Sound 4 could solo, while I like Asuma they are largely underestimated because their rank is low. With any of them it's a stomp.
 

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Are you guys kidding me, Asuma would win low difficulty
 

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Any of the Sound 4 could solo, while I like Asuma they are largely underestimated because their rank is low. With any of them it's a stomp.

Okay wut is this crap. Come on now.

2 tokubetsu jonin almost killed all the Sound 4. Do you think 1 jonin who as OP said was soloing chunin-level ninja like nothing when rank was of heavy importance will be solo'd by 1 genin ninja?
 

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I think Asuma could beat any of the Sound Four one on one, but definitely not all four at once.
 

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One on one, he can take em. Four on one, I don't think so.
 

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Okay wut is this crap. Come on now.

2 tokubetsu jonin almost killed all the Sound 4. Do you think 1 jonin who as OP said was soloing chunin-level ninja like nothing when rank was of heavy importance will be solo'd by 1 genin ninja?

You're trolling the sound 4. It's a common condition. By "almost killed" you mean got raped (by the way those two guys had ftg which puts them on Asuma's level). When Asuma was soloing that was when rank started to deteriorate. When a Konoha jonin solos nine sound chunin in a second that means ranks are used to show how strong others are-- this guy can beat so many chunin so he's strong-- instead of actually meaning something.

Now I addressed hype but also when we go by actual feats it's clear any of the sound 4 could solo Asuma. Jirobo crushes him with a boulder, or puts him inside a mound to suck away his chakra. Kidomaru hides and plugs him with spikes, or summons a bigass spider and dozens of smaller ones to wrap him in webs. Sakon and Ukon fake him out and doubleteam him, or merely enter his body. Tayuya kills him with ogres or puts him in genjutsu. They probably don't even need their curse marks, ignoring their erroneous, self-depreciating words in favor of actual abilities.
 

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You're trolling the sound 4. It's a common condition. By "almost killed" you mean got raped (by the way those two guys had ftg which puts them on Asuma's level).
What do you mean ? They were exhausted. Those were 2 Tokubetsu Jonin who have little to no screentime. Asuma is straight Jonin. They forced them into CS2, TWO of them. And you think ANY of the sound 4 can SOLO Asuma? Wtf is this?
When Asuma was soloing that was when rank started to deteriorate. When a Konoha jonin solos nine sound chunin in a second that means ranks are used to show how strong others are-- this guy can beat so many chunin so he's strong-- instead of actually meaning something.
I like how it coincidentally "starts deteriorating" as Asuma performs this feat. Rank has always mattered. Guess what? It didn't deteriorate when 2 tokubetsu jonin pushed the sound to their limits.
Now I addressed hype but also when we go by actual feats it's clear any of the sound 4 could solo Asuma. Jirobo crushes him with a boulder, or puts him inside a mound to suck away his chakra. Kidomaru hides and plugs him with spikes, or summons a bigass spider and dozens of smaller ones to wrap him in webs. Sakon and Ukon fake him out and doubleteam him, or merely enter his body. Tayuya kills him with ogres or puts him in genjutsu. They probably don't even need their curse marks, ignoring their erroneous, self-depreciating words in favor of actual abilities.
I'll have to elaborate later since I have to go, but it was already broken through by far weaker attacks. Asuma makes ****ing laser swords 2 feet long that slice through anything, and his taijutsu craps on any of the sound 4 easily. I never said he'd beat all 4, but THEY DONT EVEN NEED THEIR CURSE MARKS? Let's go buddy, I'm up for that debate.

I would elaborate but I'm short on time if you reply I'll elaborate later when I get back. Asuma isn't getting solod by any of the sound 4, that's BS.
 

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What do you mean ? They were exhausted. Those were 2 Tokubetsu Jonin who have little to no screentime. Asuma is straight Jonin. They forced them into CS2, TWO of them. And you think ANY of the sound 4 can SOLO Asuma? Wtf is this?

They were tired not from fighting but because they used cs2, which drains the body. Like I said, those jonin have ftg. And if we go by your dubious assertion that ranks matter then they are on the level of Asuma and with two of them are better than him. This is what I meant by raped, no offense to the ftg squad:

I like how it coincidentally "starts deteriorating" as Asuma performs this feat. Rank has always mattered. Guess what? It didn't deteriorate when 2 tokubetsu jonin pushed the sound to their limits.

It is a prime example of the deterioration. No, rank does not matter, even if it once did. Naruto is a genin, remember? Are you saying he is on the level of Udon or something? Because I really don't know what to say to that. Anyway, rank was already gone when the jonin got beaten by the sound 4. And, like I said, the sound 4's exhaustion came from cs2, not from the fighting.

I'll have to elaborate later since I have to go, but it was already broken through by far weaker attacks. Asuma makes ****ing laser swords 2 feet long that slice through anything, and his taijutsu craps on any of the sound 4 easily. I never said he'd beat all 4, but THEY DONT EVEN NEED THEIR CURSE MARKS? Let's go buddy, I'm up for that debate.

I would elaborate but I'm short on time if you reply I'll elaborate later when I get back. Asuma isn't getting solod by any of the sound 4, that's BS.

Those are both short range skills. Now put him against Kidomaru and he's done. Asuma does have ash cloud, which you probably should've mentioned but I'll bring up as a courtesy. However, seeing as how he burned himself with this and was relatively okay, the sound 4 can tank it easily, if not avoid it with even more ease.

Now, I'll give you that soloing without curse marks depends on the conditions. If Asuma has no knowledge, or if this is a forest like the one Kidomaru and Tayuya fought in, then yes they can. Without one of these perhaps not. But they can still solo with cs2. And putting all four of them against Asuma at once is just overkill.
 

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They were tired not from fighting but because they used cs2, which drains the body. Like I said, those jonin have ftg. And if we go by your dubious assertion that ranks matter then they are on the level of Asuma and with two of them are better than him. This is what I meant by raped, no offense to the ftg squad:
Yeah, and this panel proves you wrong. They knew against 2 ninja of that caliber they were screwed.
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And they are tokubetsu jonin might I remind you. They were put to a point of death, sound 4 were pushed to their limis.
Just those 2 can't use FTG, and in case you didn't know Tokubetsu Jonin is inferior to Jonin

It is a prime example of the deterioration. No, rank does not matter, even if it once did. Naruto is a genin, remember? Are you saying he is on the level of Udon or something? Because I really don't know what to say to that. Anyway, rank was already gone when the jonin got beaten by the sound 4.
Yep, this is the only thing people on the opposing side of the relevance of rank can say. "WELL NARUTO ISH GENIN". Naruto and Sasuke are obviously the exception to the rule, I'm baffled people try and bring this up, although I understand why one might do so. Anything else that doesn't include characters who couldn't rank up even if they wanted to because it's obvious they'd be promoted to jonin?

And, like I said, the sound 4's exhaustion came from cs2, not from the fighting.
Semi correct, semi incorrect. They had to enter CS2 or they would have been killed.

Those are both short range skills. Now put him against Kidomaru and he's done. Asuma does have ash cloud, which you probably should've mentioned but I'll bring up as a courtesy. However, seeing as how he burned himself with this and was relatively okay, the sound 4 can tank it easily, if not avoid it with even more ease.
Asuma is restricted to moving? He doesn't have to stand long range. It's called closing the distance.

That was actually because Hidan was immortal and reflected the damage, and you know, how it destroyed Kakuzu's mask instantly and all. Let's only talk about the way to downplay it in every way possible.

Now, I'll give you that soloing without curse marks depends on the conditions. If Asuma has no knowledge, or if this is a forest like the one Kidomaru and Tayuya fought in, then yes they can. Without one of these perhaps not. But they can still solo with cs2. And putting all four of them against Asuma at once is just overkill.
That's complete bullshit, they can't do crap. happens to all of them.
 
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