Hashirama vs Tobi

[KazekageGeo]

Kishimoto said in manga )) no one is on the same level as hashriama senju ))

 

[Midday]

Kishimoto said in manga )) no one is on the same level as hashriama senju ))

No he didn't. Tobi low-mid difficulty. Petra path makes mokuton useless, space time makes Tobi very difficult to hit, even if Hashirama surpresses the bijuu do people think Tobi and Gedo Mazo are going to be doing nothing. Also good luck countering the 5/6 bijuu bomb combined.

 

[Exaar]

Kishimoto said in manga )) no one is on the same level as hashriama senju ))

He said no one is on the same level as hashirama senju Anymore.

People need to go back to school and work on their reading and understanding skills.

 

[Joki]

not once has he ever been called that and even if he does, what would those shinobi know? they have never met BM naruto or current tobi or current kabuto. also wouldnt that make oro the EXTRA strongest shinobi ever considering he posssesed hashirama as a summon?

We're not talking BM Naruto or similar, I never said whether Tobi or Hashirama would win anyway.

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Hashirama/Madara already similarly compare to the likes of BM Naruto, but not knowing about him is pretty irrelevant.

Lol, This post Overrates him because he was never called the strongest.

What part of "There isn't anyone on the level of hashirama senju Anymore" is hard to understand?.

He said no one is on the same level as hashirama senju Anymore.

People need to go back to school and work on their reading and understanding skills.

I need to work on teh understanding skills? Saying no one is on his level any more does nothing but prove Hashirama is stronger than any ninja in today's era, why would you even bring that up. It's doesn't discredit any of Hashirama's doings if that's what you thought. It actually helps him

 

[partha420]

Tobi wins and Hashirama is now overrated U_U

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Well remember when Tobi went to talk to naruto about Nagato and yamato made a zone "his territory" I think there may be a way that the wood element can counter it.. Just a thought

And then Tobi just teleported away like nothing happend. As far as we know Hashirama doesn't have any techniques that can counter Tobi's S/T.

 

[KazekageGeo]

He said no one is on the same level as hashirama senju Anymore.

People need to go back to school and work on their reading and understanding skills.

LOL okay anymore )) so Tobi was alive when kabuto said it )) So hashirama>tobi

 

[TheSages456]

kabuto already said that hashirama>tobi.

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[Raito]

No he didn't. Tobi low-mid difficulty. Petra path makes mokuton useless, space time makes Tobi very difficult to hit, even if Hashirama surpresses the bijuu do people think Tobi and Gedo Mazo are going to be doing nothing. Also good luck countering the 5/6 bijuu bomb combined.

What are you talking about? Preta Path makes the Mokuton useless?
The Mokuton isn't pure chakra, Tobi would have to touch it in order to absorb its chakra and I doubt Preta Path would be of use, if we consider the impact the Mokuton can cause - This statement is invalid. But nevertheless Tobis intangibility can counter anything.

 

[Sonin]

And then Tobi just teleported away like nothing happend. As far as we know Hashirama doesn't have any techniques that can counter Tobi's S/T.

He can teleport away but can he solidify within the barrier? The point is Hashi can use his wood to react to tobi solidifying and possible skewer him.. I am just saying Yamato knew tobi's technique and had some kind of deterrent.

 

[Midday]

What are you talking about? Preta Path makes the Mokuton useless?
The Mokuton isn't pure chakra, Tobi would have to touch it in order to absorb its chakra and I doubt Preta Path would be of use, if we consider the impact the Mokuton can cause - This statement is invalid. But nevertheless Tobis intangibility can counter anything.

Petra path wouldn't work? It would either completely absorb the wood just like Jiriya's sage oil or it would make the technique regular trees again. It's a valid counter.

 

[Sonin]

Petra path wouldn't work? It would either completely absorb the wood just like Jiriya's sage oil or it would make the technique regular trees again. It's a valid counter.

Their is no proof tobi can use the renengan to that extent yet.. We have not seen him use it at all really.. Therefore it is all assumption on his abilities which in turn is an invalid argument..

 

[Midday]

Their is no proof tobi can use the renengan to that extent yet.. We have not seen him use it at all really.. Therefore it is all assumption on his abilities which in turn is an invalid argument..

It's a safe assumption that he can use the rinnengan, he's shown he was able to use outer and human path. Just like we're assuming Hashirama's wood techniques are on a similar level as Madara's even though we only saw what he could do in part 1.

 

[Sonin]

It's a safe assumption that he can use the rinnengan, he's shown he was able to use outer and human path. Just like we're assuming Hashirama's wood techniques are on a similar level as Madara's even though we only saw what he could do in part 1.

Yes but Madara's use of Renengan are no where near the ability we saw from Nagato. I am just saying safe assumption or not it is still assumed. Every person's threshold with Renengan has been different thus far so we can assume tobi's will be as well . And part 1 power scaling is way different.. A fire ball in part one was amazing.

 

[Champ]

Can't believe ppl are debatin this Tobi low difficulty

 

[Missing Uchiha]

Maybe tobi but high diff

 

[~MC117~]

I like how people here continuously rant at how overrated Hashirama is, whilst simultaneously ignoring the fact about him repeatedly being credited as the strongest shinobi ever to exist minus Rikudou. A moon buster.

SMH U_U not even going to reply seriously to this U_U

And wow look at the poll, people actually think that hashirama stand a chance :flaw:

 

[Exaar]

I need to work on teh understanding skills? Saying no one is on his level any more does nothing but prove Hashirama is stronger than any ninja in today's era, why would you even bring that up. It's doesn't discredit any of Hashirama's doings if that's what you thought. It actually helps him

Yes, It's Proves that no Current Living Ninja that Kabuto knows of is on Hashirama's level, (he doesn't know of Bm naruto). Plus as far as i know Kabuto hasn't witnessed Tobi's Biiju/jinchuuriki in action.

Just because he is stronger than current living shinobi doesn't make him the strongest ever.
Kabuto using the word Anymore means that at one point in time there were ninja on hashirama's level.

 

[Sonin]

Yes, It's Proves that no Current Living Ninja that Kabuto knows of is on Hashirama's level, (he doesn't know of Bm naruto). Plus as far as i know Kabuto hasn't witnessed Tobi's Biiju/jinchuuriki in action.

Just because he is stronger than current living shinobi doesn't make him the strongest ever.
Kabuto using the word Anymore means that at one point in time there were ninja on hashirama's level.

Also by on his level it could mean MANY things. It could be healing abilities, suppression abilities, chakra levels. It doesn't mean no one can defeat him.. It is all about counters. I mean gai beat kisame but that doesn't make him better you know ?

 

[Raito]

Petra path wouldn't work? It would either completely absorb the wood just like Jiriya's sage oil or it would make the technique regular trees again. It's a valid counter.

So this is your comparison. Where is the different from Jiraiyas sage oil and a Katon technique? Both are Chakra-attacks, while the Mokuton is a physical material, it is life in form of trees, create by using Chakra. Absorbing the trees would be like saying Preta Path can absorb not only the humans Chakra but the human himself. Of course Preta could absord the Chakra out of the trees, but only in the case he'll touch it. And this is, considered the impact the Mokuton causes, impossible. So stop talking nonsense.