Nagato awakened the rinnegan

[Sephy100]

lol give an Uchiha without senju dna and edo stamina and they will fail at using 2 shinra tensei because there stamina is shitty. The rinnegan is has much as it is Uchiha has i is a Senju trait.

Prove it that the Rinnegan is a trait of the Senju. UNless you can prove it using the manga then your whole thread is pointless.

 

[Styles]

if it wasnt implanted it would have turned off when he ran out of chakra/died :|

this and since he is an uzumaki and had high chakra that's maybe why he was able to have it for so long but one thing is that he never or could not revert it back to his normal eyes

 

[Seraphiel]

Prove it that the Rinnegan is a trait of the Senju. UNless you can prove it using the manga then your whole thread is pointless.

You guys are just ****ing idiots. The Senju came from the SO6P who had the Rinnegan, right? And the Uzumaki are related to the Senju, right? Which makes them related to the SO6P, right? I guess that would mean that the Uzumaki and the Senju have the genetic potential to awaken the Rinnegan. Just because Kabuto said that the Rinnegan comes after EMS, does not mean that the Rinnegan can't be acquired through genetics - Nagato being the example for this. We actually saw him awaken it when he got pissed for his parents death. It's usually not a matter of Manga but a matter of thinking.

 

[Tosen]

because hes not uchiha,he didnt go through the natural process of awakening the rinnegan, he cant go back down the ladder of dojutsu just like he cant turn off it off, thats what happens when you have the eye implanted it cant revert to a previous form, usually meaning it cant revert to normal eyes like kakashi and his sharingan, but in nagato it means it cant revert to any of its precious forms nor does it have access to those forms abilities

We see Madara using susano in the rinnegan form and thats a eally bad reason of why Nagato couldn't use Susano and the other abilites.

That sir is rude.

Whatever

his eyes werent his..... if he awakened them he woulda know about it when his parents died instead he blacks out.... how do you black out with all seeing eyes..... why does tobi lie about giving him the eyes and nagato is a uzumaki which are like descendants of senju who recieved the body/chakra of sage not his eyes.... why is rinnegan the next evolution of ems?

:| he lies about many things.

Prove it that the Rinnegan is a trait of the Senju. UNless you can prove it using the manga then your whole thread is pointless.

Like I said before the rinnegan takes stamina that the Uchihas lack to utilize it. Can you honestly look me in the eye and tell me that an ave Uchiha has the stamina to use the rinnegan like Nagato did.

 

[Ryuu..]

The thing is, the idea of Madara's eyes being Nagato's fits perfectly with what has been shown/said so far in the manga. That is to say, it is by far the most likely conclusion we can reach.

 

[Tosen]

You guys are just ****ing idiots. The Senju came from the SO6P who had the Rinnegan, right? And the Uzumaki are related to the Senju, right? Which makes them related to the SO6P, right? I guess that would mean that the Uzumaki and the Senju have the genetic potential to awaken the Rinnegan. Just because Kabuto said that the Rinnegan comes after EMS, does not mean that the Rinnegan can't be acquired through genetics - Nagato being the example for this. We actually saw him awaken it when he got pissed for his parents death. It's usually not a matter of Manga but a matter of thinking.

+ rep exactly bro, these people can not think outside of the box and enjoy being lied to by a liar like Tobi.

All am saying is people there is a possibility that Nagato awakened the rinnegan by himself.

 

[Seraphiel]

its common sense, dojutsu require chakra to be maintained, unless theyre some how stuck in that state of activity, like what happens when theyre implanted

Common sense, really? You are thinking of the Sharingan. The Rinnegan is a completely different doujutsu.

 

[Tosen]

The thing is, the idea of Madara's eyes being Nagato's fits perfectly with what has been shown/said so far in the manga. That is to say, it is by far the most likely conclusion we can reach.

It does I can't lie however in my opinion so does Nagato awakening the rinnegan, I mean we saw him clearly awakening it when he got pissed.

 

[Ryuu..]

No-one saw Nagato awaken it, because you didn't see his eyes before that moment. They were covered by his fringe. So you cannot say his eyes were 'normal' before that moment, because you didn't see them.

 

[-Logic-]

*Checks username*

Who ya calling a fool, wipe the uchiha cum out of your ass and listen to other opinion noob :sy:

Haha, so you jump at an insult straight away, not the most intelligent of humans... I have no problem listening to anyone's opinions, as long as they aren't stupid

 

[Hatake Senju]

What reason would Tobi have to lie about Nagato? Nagato is dead, he doesn't really matter anymore. Why would Madara have some inkling on to who Nagato was even tho he never really 'met' Nagato?

Tobi may not be the ACTUAL Madara, but that doesn't mean he a habitual liar. I will believe what he says until I see otherwise. Everyone knows the truth always comes to light...

 

[Vision]

--No flaiming and stay on topic--​

 

[Seraphiel]

No-one saw Nagato awaken it, because you didn't see his eyes before that moment. They were covered by his fringe. So you cannot say his eyes were 'normal' before that moment, because you didn't see them.

Are you being serious? So Tobi implanted his eyes into Nagato a few minutes before his family got killed? I guess that's what happened...

 

[Invsblphntm]

It has NOT been proved that Nagato's Rinnegan was implanted. It is a very possible theory, but think about this shit, a proven liar said that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan and Madara showed he knew Nagato. Nowhere does that prove anything. Also, the Rinnegan hasn't been proven to be a natural evolution, that is Kabuto's hypothesis, and if you've been through the 4th grade, you should know hypotheses aren't always right. Madara never said "I unlocked the Rinnegan naturally, its what waits after the EMS." He said he awakened shortly before his death which could very possibly mean that he unlocked it off the Senju DNA that he stole from Hashirama.

 

[Tosen]

No-one saw Nagato awaken it, because you didn't see his eyes before that moment. They were covered by his fringe. So you cannot say his eyes were 'normal' before that moment, because you didn't see them.

The atmosphere and the way he reacted seemed like he awakened it, and like wise I can say that who knows if he had the rinnegan under his hair but the way it was presented was like he awakened it.

All I am stating in this thread is that there is a possibility that Nagato Uzumaki could have unlocked the rinnegan.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

We see Madara using susano in the rinnegan form and thats a eally bad reason of why Nagato couldn't use Susano and the other abilites.

so did it ever occur to you why madara could use ms techs in rinnegan form? because theyre different levels of the same dojutsu

and if you dont like the reasoning take it up with kishi

 

[Seraphiel]

so did it ever occur to you why madara could use ms techs in rinnegan form? because theyre different levels of the same dojutsu

and if you dont like the reasoning take it up with kishi

He was only shown using Susano'o. He actually had to switch back and forth to be able to use some Sharingan techs. You don't see Sasuke using Amaterasu with his 3-Tomoe Sharingan, now do you? And 3-Tomoe is a different level of the Sharingan.

 

[Ryuu..]

Are you being serious? So Tobi implanted his eyes into Nagato a few minutes before his family got killed? I guess that's what happened...

I did not give you a time frame of when they were implanted. Can you show me a picture of Nagato with normal eyes? Yes or No? I'm not saying you're wrong, i'm saying you cannot prove it.

The atmosphere and the way he reacted seemed like he awakened it, and like wise I can say that who knows if he had the rinnegan under his hair but the way it was presented was like he awakened it.

All I am stating in this thread is that there is a possibility that Nagato Uzumaki could have unlocked the rinnegan.

As I said to the post above, i'm not saying you're wrong, but you cannot prove it with the manga, whereas the Madara theory has some valid evidence. That's all i'm saying bro.

 

[Tosen]

It has NOT been proved that Nagato's Rinnegan was implanted. It is a very possible theory, but think about this shit, a proven liar said that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan and Madara showed he knew Nagato. Nowhere does that prove anything. Also, the Rinnegan hasn't been proven to be a natural evolution, that is Kabuto's hypothesis, and if you've been through the 4th grade, you should know hypotheses aren't always right. Madara never said "I unlocked the Rinnegan naturally, its what waits after the EMS." He said he awakened shortly before his death which could very possibly mean that he unlocked it off the Senju DNA that he stole from Hashirama.

Exactly bro

so did it ever occur to you why madara could use ms techs in rinnegan form? because theyre different levels of the same dojutsu

and if you dont like the reasoning take it up with kishi

There different doujutsu :| that happened to devolve|evolve both ways

And besides that was Kabutos hypotheses and we still don't know yet if he needed the hashi cells to awaken the rinnegan.

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

He was only shown using Susano'o. He actually had to switch back and forth to be able to use some Sharingan techs. You don't see Sasuke using Amaterasu with his 3-Tomoe Sharingan, now do you? And 3-Tomoe is a different level of the Sharingan.

@bold: and which techs were these :|



your point about sasuke makes no sense, its just like you wont see madara using preta path with his mangekyou, i dont see what youre trying to say

im saying you cannot revert the form of your dojustu when its implanted .madara can because he went through the full process, he can slide in and out of ms and rinnegan at will,

and clearly you misunderstand ms since the 3 tomoe abilities are still active when one is using ms, the eye is still able to see chakra and break down situations like 3 tomoe can, and madara's rinnegan can still summon susanoo even though its an ms ability

Exactly bro

There different doujutsu :| that happened to devolve|evolve both ways

And besides that was Kabutos hypotheses and we still don't know yet if he needed the hashi cells to awaken the rinnegan.

you call it de-evolution, i call it dilution of the traits/genes resulting in a lower weaker form of the original dojutsu

and for all we know senju dna is necesary because it is understood madara stole some of hashi's dna from their fight at the valley of end, and awoke the rinnegan much later, but if thats true just like madara didnt have the senju capacity by himself to awake rinnegan no senju/uzumaki would have the eye capacity to awaken rinnegan