Requirements to unlock Rinnegan

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Edit: Please note that whenever I say Senju or Uzumaki it refers to both, meaning Younger Brother Descendants.

Rinnegan is not actually an Uchiha trait. Yes, it seems that EMS is a must, or is it, in order to unlock Rinnegan, but it's only half of the way. Uchiha's need Senju DNA too. From Madara and Kabuto's talk it seems that Madara fought Hashirama in order to get his power (DNA) and thanks to that was later on, near his death, able to progress his EMS towards Rinnegan. This makes Rinnegan as much an Uchiha trait as it is a Senju trait. And Since Nagato, an Uzumaki, was able to use it then it means that any Senju/Uzumaki could use it too. Notice that I said use and not unlock.

I have a theory though, that what Tobi actually implanted on Nagato was a pair of sharingans, and since Nagato is also a descendant from the younger brother, much like when Sasuke first awaken the sharingan, in a traumatic situation Nagato awoke the Rinnegan. Why is this?

Well we all know that the Elder Son of the Sage wrote down the secrets of the Sharingan and the Rinnegan in the Uchiha's Stone. It's also stated that these secrets are not visible to all, in fact each time you progress in Sharingan you unlock some more info on the rock. My theory is that Madara only learned how to unlock Rinnegan with the info he got from the stone with the EMS, hence why he was so surprised how Orochimaru and Kabuto knew so much about the stone and what took to unlock the Rinnegan since no one else had the eyes to unlock that knowledge, and he kinda like was the only one with EMS.

So with EMS Madara was able to learn from the stone that Sharingan could progress into Rinnegan. Then he goes after Hashirama's DNA, coincidence? I Think not. Uchiha got the eyes and the chakra but they lacked the body to truly incorporate all of what made the Sage of Six Paths. That body are the Younger Brother's descendants. I think that is what Madara learned from the stone with his EMS.

At this point we assume that in order to unlock Rinnegan, if you are an Uchiha, you need both Senju DNA and EMS. Which is true because without EMS you can't find out the info on the Stone. But from a logical point of view you don't actually need the EMS in order to get Rinnegan. Maybe all you need is MS and Senju DNA? Granted Madara had EMS but is only an extended MS, a safer one let's say.

So assuming this is true, then we have Tobi implanting a pair of Sharingans in Nagato. Nagato then later witnesses his parents being slaughtered, causing him great pain. In theory that is what takes to unlock MS, if you have a Sharingan. As it happened in a body that descends from the Younger Brother it automatically turned to a Rinnegan, bypassing all the sharingans.

It makes sense to me because it accounts for every aspect that is known to us. It also explains why while not being Madara Tobi could implant the Rinnegan in Nagato, only that he did so much implanted the grown Doujutso as he planted the seeds set the stage and then waited for it to grow coming later to harvest it. Tobi had access to loads of Sharingans as we've seen so it's possible.

What do you think?
 

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My goodness I thought this thread was going to be like one line lol
 

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You first need EMS, then you must experience strong emotional pain. Or you just need the Rinnegan gene to be able to unlock it, but still need that emotional pain - Nagato for example.
 

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My goodness I thought this thread was going to be like one line lol

Who read it???

You first need EMS, then you must experience strong emotional pain. Or you just need the Rinnegan gene to be able to unlock it, but still need that emotional pain - Nagato for example.

It's only a theory but I'd like your input on it.
Sory for the wall of text, I tried to break it down as much as I could, but the fact is I don't bother to creat a thread if I don't have anything to say. And when I do have something to say it usually takes more than a lone to say it. :)
 

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Hmm sounds like an ok theory

Thanks for actually reading it. It's a pain in the ass when you take the time to think about something and write it down and then people don't read it. Thanks.
 

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Nice theory, but abit edgy when you're suggesting EMS is not so different to MS. Also, I question whether Tobi only planted sharingan into Nagato's eyes. What happened to Madara's Rinnegan? He knew Nagato by name, and Tobi claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Logically, we can assume Nagato's Rinnegan and Madara's Rinnegan are the same pair of eyes.
 

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Nice theory, but abit edgy when you're suggesting EMS is not so different to MS. Also, I question whether Tobi only planted sharingan into Nagato's eyes. What happened to Madara's Rinnegan? He knew Nagato by name, and Tobi claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Logically, we can assume Nagato's Rinnegan and Madara's Rinnegan are the same pair of eyes.

Said perfectly. I can't be bothered to type right now
 

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Possible. Very nice theory!


Nice theory, but abit edgy when you're suggesting EMS is not so different to MS. Also, I question whether Tobi only planted sharingan into Nagato's eyes. What happened to Madara's Rinnegan? He knew Nagato by name, and Tobi claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Logically, we can assume Nagato's Rinnegan and Madara's Rinnegan are the same pair of eyes.

And Tobi has never lied before?
 

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Nagato awakened the rinnegan naturally, Tobi is just pulling your legs.
 

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Nice theory, but abit edgy when you're suggesting EMS is not so different to MS. Also, I question whether Tobi only planted sharingan into Nagato's eyes. What happened to Madara's Rinnegan? He knew Nagato by name, and Tobi claimed to have been the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Logically, we can assume Nagato's Rinnegan and Madara's Rinnegan are the same pair of eyes.

Agreed, could be but then there was something bothering me. We clearly saw that Nagato awoke the Rinnegan, as it was not active and then went active, and then went dormant. If we take Kakashi he can't make his Sharingan go off and the same seems to be valid for Tobi. As for Uchihas and other native Doujutso users they seem to be able to go on and off with no problem. Assuming this isn't a trait by blood one would have to suppose that the reason they are able to do this is because they once had the same eyes without the Doujutso hence why they can go back. This is corroborated by the fact that to our knowledge Nagato does not have Uchiha blood. So I'd think that this going back and forth should have something to do with the fact that the Doujutso first awoke in him. Meaning that it was maybe the small eyes of an Uchiha child that was implanted in Nagato when he was little.

As for not being much of a difference between MS and EMS what I meant there was that the basics are there, the building blocks per say. Obviously EMS is more powerful then MS but is it a matter of power here? Or is it about the creation of certain conditions, the union of both halfs, younger and older brothers in order to set the stage. It's still only a theory though.
 

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2 Requirements you need to awakening the Rinnegan!!

-your last name has to be Uchiha or Uzamaki

-your first name has to be Madara or Nagato
 

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seems some what true
 

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Nagato awakened the rinnegan naturally, Tobi is just pulling your legs.

I also thought that, but when Madara right after being summoned by the first time by Kabuto starts talking about Nagato I got my doubts. The fun part about it is that the fact that Madara knows Nagato means that he died at best like 30 maybe 35 years ago. Which means that he was alive for many, many years after Hashirama died. Also the conditions are not present in Nagato's body in order for him to awaken the Rinnegan unless we assume that he had also Uchiha blood, and has we have no information pointing towards that we must assume that either like my theory said sharingans were implanted or Tobi actually gave Nagato Madara's Rinnegans.
 

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2 Requirements you need to awakening the Rinnegan!!

-your last name has to be Uchiha or Uzamaki

-your first name has to be Madara or Nagato

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Possible. Very nice theory!




And Tobi has never lied before?

So what happened to Madara's eyes? What Tobi has said fits perfectly with the story.

Agreed, could be but then there was something bothering me. We clearly saw that Nagato awoke the Rinnegan, as it was not active and then went active, and then went dormant. If we take Kakashi he can't make his Sharingan go off and the same seems to be valid for Tobi. As for Uchihas and other native Doujutso users they seem to be able to go on and off with no problem. Assuming this isn't a trait by blood one would have to suppose that the reason they are able to do this is because they once had the same eyes without the Doujutso hence why they can go back. This is corroborated by the fact that to our knowledge Nagato does not have Uchiha blood. So I'd think that this going back and forth should have something to do with the fact that the Doujutso first awoke in him. Meaning that it was maybe the small eyes of an Uchiha child that was implanted in Nagato when he was little.

As for not being much of a difference between MS and EMS what I meant there was that the basics are there, the building blocks per say. Obviously EMS is more powerful then MS but is it a matter of power here? Or is it about the creation of certain conditions, the union of both halfs, younger and older brothers in order to set the stage. It's still only a theory though.

We did not see Nagato activate it because we never saw his eyes prior to that moment. We only saw his fringe. Also, if Nagato's Rinnegan originated from the Sharingan, he should be able to use basic sharingan abilities. He's shown none. Remember, those who have had dojutsu implanted cannot turn it on and off, as you stated. Nagato hasn't shown the ability to turn his Rinnegan on and off; if it is as you say, he should be able to turn the Rinnegan off but he should be unable to turn his 'Sharingan' off. If he was originally implanted with Sharingan, he should be able to willingly switch between 3 tomoe and Rinnegan. The fact that he has not or cannot switch off his Rinnegan suggests that this was the dojutsu he was implanted with originally, not a pair of sharingan.

The difference between EMS and MS is the same as 3 tomoe and EMS. It is more than just 'power'. A whole new dojutsu is born.
 

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You only need one requirement to unlock Rinnegan: The whim of Kishi.
 
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