Woah this has to be to worst thread i've seen in a while, Kisame weak? he was beaten by 7 gated Guy because he didnt use chakra just after being injured by Naruto, Kisame could perform 3 clones and cast water prison technique with just 30% of his chakra and still keep fighting Gai. Kisame performed a mega water shark bomb against Gai, that technique only lost because he didnt know Gai's was just Taijutsui and didnt use any chakra. By pure strenght he was outlasting Gai with nunchakus with one hand and beat Asuma with both his arms too. Kisame is a chakra/strenght/ninjutsu monster easily top 5 of Akatsuki.
PS: If you take away Samehada he WILL be weaker, but that happens to all ninjas. If you take away Minato's Kunai, he is fodder, a part 1 Naruto using rasengan.
Woah this has to be to worst thread i've seen in a while, Kisame weak? he was beaten by 7 gated Guy because he didnt use chakra just after being injured by Naruto, Kisame could perform 3 clones and cast water prison technique with just 30% of his chakra and still keep fighting Gai. Kisame performed a mega water shark bomb against Gai, that technique only lost because he didnt know Gai's was just Taijutsui and didnt use any chakra. By pure strenght he was outlasting Gai with nunchakus with one hand and beat Asuma with both his arms too. Kisame is a chakra/strenght/ninjutsu monster easily top 5 of Akatsuki.
PS: If you take away Samehada he WILL be weaker, but that happens to all ninjas. If you take away Minato's Kunai, he is fodder, a part 1 Naruto using rasengan.
so part one naruto can beat water dome and get out with his puny rasengan, no he would choke and die. he would also get wrecked by his water shark jutsu or even water prison.
he had enough chakra to turn the whole area into a lake and use it to his advantage. and he has his final jutsu he used against gai which itself is very strong and absorbs chakra u think part 1 naruto can beat that lol
you're underrating kisame so much its funny please reread parts of kisame and realize how much of a monster he actually is even without his samehada
Yes i believe part1 Naruto can beat him. Don't forget he can summon Gamabunta. He has even beaten Shukaku. And don't also forget that part1 Naruto was already able to use 4tails from Kyubi. With that, he beat Kisame without Samehada without efforts
Yes i believe part1 Naruto can beat him. Don't forget he can summon Gamabunta. He has even beaten Shukaku. And don't also forget that part1 Naruto was already able to use 4tails from Kyubi. With that, he beat Kisame without Samehada without efforts
4 tails kyubi is not something he can control. it was triggered by oro taunting and threatening him. and i dont think that was part 1 very sure its part two and yamato was there
Yes i believe part1 Naruto can beat him. Don't forget he can summon Gamabunta. He has even beaten Shukaku. And don't also forget that part1 Naruto was already able to use 4tails from Kyubi. With that, he beat Kisame without Samehada without efforts
You're obviously underestimating Kisame. Do you really think Naruto will just walk out onto the field and summon Gamabunta right away? No. He wouldn't even get the chance to..
If somehow he summoned Gamabunta, Kisame could use a giant shark bomb to at least knock him down and deal a great amount of physical damage :|. If not, he could also use
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to knock Naruto off Gamabunta + as a means of transportation to hit Naruto .-.
Naruto 4 tails doesn't just happen at will. There needs to be an emotional trigger for it to happen. Kisame doesn't have personal knowledge on Naruto, so it definitely wouldn't happen.
Don't say "He wouldn't have the chakra to do that".. Kisame has huge chakra reserves regardless of Samehada, all that does is replenish his chakra (and various other things when morphed). Does Kisame preform the jutsu? Is he still standing after it's over? Both of those answers are yes. :|
You're obviously underestimating Kisame. Do you really think Naruto will just walk out onto the field and summon Gamabunta right away? No. He wouldn't even get the chance to..
If somehow he summoned Gamabunta, Kisame could use a giant shark bomb to at least knock him down and deal a great amount of physical damage :|. If not, he could also use
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to knock Naruto off Gamabunta + as a means of transportation to hit Naruto .-.
Naruto 4 tails doesn't just happen at will. There needs to be an emotional trigger for it to happen. Kisame doesn't have personal knowledge on Naruto, so it definitely wouldn't happen.
Don't say "He wouldn't have the chakra to do that".. Kisame has huge chakra reserves regardless of Samehada, all that does is replenish his chakra (and various other things when morphed). Does Kisame preform the jutsu? Is he still standing after it's over? Both of those answers are yes. :|
Why couldn't he summon Gamabunta from the start? He has already shown that when he knows he is in danger, he uses it. For example, when he met Itachi and Naruto, he was about to use summoning, right?
For the giant shark bomb, like i've said, he needs water source to do that. It doesn't appear from nowhere. And even if he creates his dome, Gamabunta is huge enough to get out of there without problems.
You also forget, Gamabunta is a suiton user too and avoid attacks pretty well:
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About the 4tails, yes it's emotional, but it's a part of the fight. When Naruto is in difficulties, Kyubi helps him. Kyubi won't let him die without interfering
Why couldn't he summon Gamabunta from the start? He has already shown that when he knows he is in danger, he uses it. For example, when he met Itachi and Naruto, he was about to use summoning, right?
For the giant shark bomb, like i've said, he needs water source to do that. It doesn't appear from nowhere. And even if he creates his dome, Gamabunta is huge enough to get out of there without problems.
You also forget, Gamabunta is a suiton user too and avoid attacks pretty well:
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About the 4tails, yes it's emotional, but it's a part of the fight. When Naruto is in difficulties, Kyubi helps him. Kyubi won't let him die without interfering
Kisame is able to indeed make water without a water source =\ If you looked at the link I put in my last post it clearly says
"The user spits out a great volume of water from their mouth, swallowing up and crushing the enemy with the advancing surge."
and
"even a dry wasteland can become a small ocean."
Go ahead, let Gamabunta use suiton based moves while Kisame is using
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. It would only power up the attack. And don't say "Gamabunta wouldn't use suiton against the shark bomb" he would, he has no knowledge of it, so he'd attempt to weaken it by using his own jutsu.
Even if Gamabunta somehow manages to dodge it, he's left in the air completely vulnerable to any attack. Or maybe (speculating a bit here) Kisame has a good grip on the shark bomb and can bend it (turn it around) at his own will.
I admit Gamabunta is very resistant to physical attacks.
But Kisame could use "
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" to aid him. Let me explain a bit, yes the jutsu is used as a way to help him move around while morphed with Samehada.
He could also use it to make it harder for someone to stand on the floor (Like Gamabunta for example), plus he does have the ability to travel underground without Samehada, it just wouldn't be as fast.
How many times has the Kyuubi voluntarily aided Naruto in part one? On top of that, if used to a certain extent, it could easily kill him. If Naruto is exhausted as it is, then turns into the tails for a long time as well, he could easily be dead by the time it's over. But again, Kyuubi probably wouldn't help him. I mean, doesn't the Kyuubi want to be free of a human body? (Guessing, I could be wrong)
