madera and nagato's connection

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okay as far as we know about these 2 is that somehow madera know about nagato (can't find link) and earlier it was mentioned with the fight between tobi and konan that tobi gave the rinnigan to nagato this is were i think the connection starts.

As we all know tobi lies alot especially about the case about hes identity like about being madera so the way i look at is that when he talks about his past he was actually talking about madera past. so when tobi said he gave nagato the rinnigan i think the real madera did that.

now i know alot of u r going to say thats impossible because how did madera live that long well we know he survived the fight we hashi and got some of his powers which means with his cells he would expand life span because senju lived longer because they had the so6p body also we don't know when he died so its possible he could of still could've been alive still

All we know about madera death is that before it he got the rinnigan so he must have gave his eyes to nagato when he was near death and told tobi to look after him and told him to carry out the moon eye plan since we know from this link
that madera had a plan before death that plan was the moon eye plan and must have been his original idea. so in this theory i believe that tobi is his own character and met madera later in his life and thats how he know so much about madera.
 

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Madara had his eyes in his head when he died because Edo Tensei revives the person to the state they were in right before they died....

So that means that Madara did not personally give Nagato his eyes because how could Madara have given him his eyes and still be alive and get Edo'd with his eyes....

I think Tobi and Madara are working together in some way that is unclear because I dont think Tobi is lying when he told Konan that he gave Nagato those eyes

Tobi must have been instructed by Madara to take his eyes out after he died and implant them into Nagato

and Madara must have known about this plan because he knows about Nagato
 

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Are you hearing this kishi?...write this down xd tobi is a liar
 

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Madara had his eyes in his head when he died because Edo Tensei revives the person to the state they were in right before they died....

So that means that Madara did not personally give Nagato his eyes because how could Madara have given him his eyes and still be alive and get Edo'd with his eyes....

I think Tobi and Madara are working together in some way that is unclear because I dont think Tobi is lying when he told Konan that he gave Nagato those eyes

Tobi must have been instructed by Madara to take his eyes out after he died and implant them into Nagato

and Madara must have known about this plan because he knows about Nagato

i also believe that tobi could of have given madera's eyes to nagato
 

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okay as far as we know about these 2 is that somehow madera know about nagato (can't find link) and earlier it was mentioned with the fight between tobi and konan that tobi gave the rinnigan to nagato this is were i think the connection starts.

As we all know tobi lies alot especially about the case about hes identity like about being madera so the way i look at is that when he talks about his past he was actually talking about madera past. so when tobi said he gave nagato the rinnigan i think the real madera did that.

now i know alot of u r going to say thats impossible because how did madera live that long well we know he survived the fight we hashi and got some of his powers which means with his cells he would expand life span because senju lived longer because they had the so6p body also we don't know when he died so its possible he could of still could've been alive still

All we know about madera death is that before it he got the rinnigan so he must have gave his eyes to nagato when he was near death and told tobi to look after him and told him to carry out the moon eye plan since we know from this link
that madera had a plan before death that plan was the moon eye plan and must have been his original idea. so in this theory i believe that tobi is his own character and met madera later in his life and thats how he know so much about madera.


Who is Madera???
 

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I'm sorry there is no character called, "madera"
 

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i like your theory but i think madara died first then tobi took out his eyes and gave it to nagato or else he wouldn't be edo tensei'd with them back. like sasuke taking itachi's eyes after he died, and that if shisui gets edo tensei'd he might not have his eyes because they were both got taken out.
 

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What I dont get is IF madara implanted the rinnegan in nagato, how does nagato awaken them as we saw when his parents got killed i believe (someone correct me if im wrong). Clearly the method he used to give the rinnegan must be different and not implanted like kakashi's sharingan or else he would have the eyes before awakening them if they were implanted.
 

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What I dont get is IF madara implanted the rinnegan in nagato, how does nagato awaken them as we saw when his parents got killed i believe (someone correct me if im wrong). Clearly the method he used to give the rinnegan must be different and not implanted like kakashi's sharingan or else he would have the eyes before awakening them if they were implanted.

thats a good point i just going off the point of view that it was given to him by madara or tobi
 

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Only problem i see with this theory is that, if that were true that Madara with a little bit of Senju DNA could survive until Nagato's around 10 yrs old then Hashirama would have lived well past that and seeing as how Jiraiya trained Nagato near his teenage years that seems unlikely. And remember Nagato had the rinnegan when he was training with Jiraiya
 

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Madara had his eyes in his head when he died because Edo Tensei revives the person to the state they were in right before they died....

So that means that Madara did not personally give Nagato his eyes because how could Madara have given him his eyes and still be alive and get Edo'd with his eyes....

I think Tobi and Madara are working together in some way that is unclear because I dont think Tobi is lying when he told Konan that he gave Nagato those eyes

Tobi must have been instructed by Madara to take his eyes out after he died and implant them into Nagato

and Madara must have known about this plan because he knows about Nagato


if you must know, kabuto stated that madara was a special edo ... kabuto said he brought him to his prime.... make sense now?
 

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okay as far as we know about these 2 is that somehow madera know about nagato (can't find link) and earlier it was mentioned with the fight between tobi and konan that tobi gave the rinnigan to nagato this is were i think the connection starts.

As we all know tobi lies alot especially about the case about hes identity like about being madera so the way i look at is that when he talks about his past he was actually talking about madera past. so when tobi said he gave nagato the rinnigan i think the real madera did that.

now i know alot of u r going to say thats impossible because how did madera live that long well we know he survived the fight we hashi and got some of his powers which means with his cells he would expand life span because senju lived longer because they had the so6p body also we don't know when he died so its possible he could of still could've been alive still

All we know about madera death is that before it he got the rinnigan so he must have gave his eyes to nagato when he was near death and told tobi to look after him and told him to carry out the moon eye plan since we know from this link
that madera had a plan before death that plan was the moon eye plan and must have been his original idea. so in this theory i believe that tobi is his own character and met madera later in his life and thats how he know so much about madera.

How does madara know Nagato??? He mentioned that "nagato kid managed to grow up" or sumthin but didnt he die after battling the first hokage??? Confusing!!:confused::confused::confused:
 
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