What Madara told Onoki last chapter (589)..

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Last chapter, when Onoki sees Madara's current "true full power" and remembers Madara's power from when he and Muu fought against him long ago, Onoki realizes Madara was toying with them and he asks Madara why and Madara answers, "Would an adult ever seriously fight with a child/pebble?"

This is really interesting to me...

I makes me think back to his minor bout with Naruto earlier in the war. Everyone thought Naruto pushed Madara into using Rinnegan so fast, but obviously that isn't the case, Madara didn't "need" Rinnegan to counter that attack, he was only toying with Naruto. FACT. Also, sadly, this means if Sasuke is the next "child" to face Madara and "defeat" him, it will be because Madara toyed with lord Sasuke and therefore "allowed" him to win. FACT.

I'm done.
 

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madara is just tooo strong.
now i want to see him toy around with tobi, and see how it goes for him.
 

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Something else rang a bell when I read that, and that's that Madara is NOT this true "evil" person. Which means, we have crossed out Kabuto and Madara for "pure evil" villains..leaving Orochimaru and Tobi. Tobi is next to bite the dust (leave the list) because lord Oro is the "only true evil" in the Naruto tale.
 

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Last chapter, when Onoki sees Madara's current "true full power" and remembers Madara's power from when he and Muu fought against him long ago, Onoki realizes Madara was toying with them and he asks Madara why and Madara answers, "Would an adult ever seriously fight with a child/pebble?"

This is really interesting to me...

I makes me think back to his minor bout with Naruto earlier in the war. Everyone thought Naruto pushed Madara into using Rinnegan so fast, but obviously that isn't the case, Madara didn't "need" Rinnegan to counter that attack, he was only toying with Naruto. FACT. Also, sadly, this means if Sasuke is the next "child" to face Madara and "defeat" him, it will be because Madara toyed with lord Sasuke and therefore "allowed" him to win. FACT.

I'm done.

you are Retarded .FACT
 

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Lord Sasuke....really?

yeah madara actually needed to absorb it or he would have been vaporized like the dust release would have done to him if he was caught in it. think about it, either he had to absorb or wait until he regenerated but he would have been sealed by then. He had no susanoo xd He was playing but Naruto wasn't at full power either so if they went head to head madara couldn't afford to play
 

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Many people are arguing that itachi has uchiha powers & sharingan so it helps in his analysis & thats why shikamaru is more intelligent.The uchiha power thing is true,but it doesnt mean shikamaru is more intelligent.
If shikamaru & itachi fought same opponents, & both win,then it can be said that shikamaru was more intelligent as he had less "resources" at his disposal,but other than that, you cannot compare intelligence of an S-rank vs S-rank fight & a chunin vs chunin fight.
 

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Many people are arguing that itachi has uchiha powers & sharingan so it helps in his analysis & thats why shikamaru is more intelligent.The uchiha power thing is true,but it doesnt mean shikamaru is more intelligent.
If shikamaru & itachi fought same opponents, & both win,then it can be said that shikamaru was more intelligent as he had less "resources" at his disposal,but other than that, you cannot compare intelligence of an S-rank vs S-rank fight & a chunin vs chunin fight.

What? When did I ever say anything about "intellect"?
 

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Legendary Madara Uchiha , It seems Uchiha Madara has some Saiyan pride in him , just like Vegeta does.
 

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yeah but

LAWL at sasuke defeating madara

imp VS emperor
 
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Last chapter, when Onoki sees Madara's current "true full power" and remembers Madara's power from when he and Muu fought against him long ago, Onoki realizes Madara was toying with them and he asks Madara why and Madara answers, "Would an adult ever seriously fight with a child/pebble?"

This is really interesting to me...

I makes me think back to his minor bout with Naruto earlier in the war. Everyone thought Naruto pushed Madara into using Rinnegan so fast, but obviously that isn't the case, Madara didn't "need" Rinnegan to counter that attack, he was only toying with Naruto. FACT. Also, sadly, this means if Sasuke is the next "child" to face Madara and "defeat" him, it will be because Madara toyed with lord Sasuke and therefore "allowed" him to win. FACT.

I'm done.

Something else rang a bell when I read that, and that's that Madara is NOT this true "evil" person. Which means, we have crossed out Kabuto and Madara for "pure evil" villains..leaving Orochimaru and Tobi. Tobi is next to bite the dust (leave the list) because lord Oro is the "only true evil" in the Naruto tale.


First things first...Madara was fighting against Muu and Oonoki, those are 2 high Kage level Shinobi or at least Muu was at the time. Secondly something that everyone keeps forgetting is that:



From what we know, Madara knew he was going to lose the battle against Hashi. He went in there to get his DNA and left some sort of plan for his return to someone (most likely Tobi). The Madara fighting right now is beyond anything he could have done back then or else he actually might have won against Hashi.



Look at all of this "HIS." HIS Plan, HIS assistant, and also Edo-Madara's mentioning of a plan. This might seem like I got side-tracked but it's all relevant because what I am trying to convey is every major Villian in Naruto so far has been a cocky, arrogant, show-off which in turn makes it hard for us to know which parts of what Madara says is true. Madara has stated a couple of times in the past couple of chapters that he needs to break Oonoki ASAP because he is their/5 kage's determination, spirit, and drive to win. We don't know if when he said "what kind of adult would fight against a mere child" is serious or what I believe to be just Madara's way of trying to psychologically break Oonoki down.

As for the Madara not going hard on a kid/mere child (especially Naruto), you have to remember he still needed to capture Naruto. He didn't toy with him, Kabuto/Edo-Madara did what they had to do in order to keep their course of action/plan going.



As for this whole "pure evil" villain thing, I don't understand why this idea has swept through this entire board like a pack of Uchiha fan-boys posting on a thread titled "Sasuke Sucks." Oro was nothing close to pure-evil or even much of a villain for that matter. Oro just wanted to learn every jutsu and gain immortality by any means necessary. Tobi is trying to "complete" himself and needs all the Bijuu to do so. Madara is by far and away the most evil based on what I would consider the general scale of what encompasses a character as evil. Madara hits people where it hurts. If he were to unleash all of these powers at once, he probably would have destroyed the 5 kage, Naruto,
Killer-B, Tobi, etc... but he does things just for his pure amusement. Oh you want to say that its 5v1 okay here are a bunch of wood clones with Susanoo and now its really 5v1. I mean he could have done this right from the beginning and continued it over and over because his chakra is endless. I could go on and on but I think I showed my viewpoint that Madara is the closest thing to a "pure villain" and what he said to Oonoki should not be taken literally, or at least I believe so.
 

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First things first...Madara was fighting against Muu and Oonoki, those are 2 high Kage level Shinobi or at least Muu was at the time. Secondly something that everyone keeps forgetting is that:

Does it matter if Muu and Oonoki were kage level? They were both children to Madara. But if you want to go with power..Naruto and Sasuke aren't presently kage level? Or stronger?


From what we know, Madara knew he was going to lose the battle against Hashi. He went in there to get his DNA and left some sort of plan for his return to someone (most likely Tobi). The Madara fighting right now is beyond anything he could have done back then or else he actually might have won against Hashi.

And? Madara back then still handled Muu and Onoki. It doesn't really matter if he didn't have these new upgrades back then, what he had back then was still good enough to get it done and that's my point.

Look at all of this "HIS." HIS Plan, HIS assistant, and also Edo-Madara's mentioning of a plan. This might seem like I got side-tracked but it's all relevant because what I am trying to convey is every major Villian in Naruto so far has been a cocky, arrogant, show-off which in turn makes it hard for us to know which parts of what Madara says is true. Madara has stated a couple of times in the past couple of chapters that he needs to break Oonoki ASAP because he is their/5 kage's determination, spirit, and drive to win. We don't know if when he said "what kind of adult would fight against a mere child" is serious or what I believe to be just Madara's way of trying to psychologically break Oonoki down.

Possible, but I doubt it. None of us can prove it either way.

As for the Madara not going hard on a kid/mere child (especially Naruto), you have to remember he still needed to capture Naruto. He didn't toy with him, Kabuto/Edo-Madara did what they had to do in order to keep their course of action/plan going.

Prove to me Madara wasn't in full control of his actions at that point, then we'll talk.

As for this whole "pure evil" villain thing, I don't understand why this idea has swept through this entire board like a pack of Uchiha fan-boys posting on a thread titled "Sasuke Sucks." Oro was nothing close to pure-evil or even much of a villain for that matter. Oro just wanted to learn every jutsu and gain immortality by any means necessary. Tobi is trying to "complete" himself and needs all the Bijuu to do so. Madara is by far and away the most evil based on what I would consider the general scale of what encompasses a character as evil. Madara hits people where it hurts. If he were to unleash all of these powers at once, he probably would have destroyed the 5 kage, Naruto,
Killer-B, Tobi, etc... but he does things just for his pure amusement. Oh you want to say that its 5v1 okay here are a bunch of wood clones with Susanoo and now its really 5v1. I mean he could have done this right from the beginning and continued it over and over because his chakra is endless. I could go on and on but I think I showed my viewpoint that Madara is the closest thing to a "pure villain" and what he said to Oonoki should not be taken literally, or at least I believe so.

Listen, there isn't ANYONE on this forum that can convince me that Orochimaru isn't "pure evil" and therefore the most evil villain in the series. Forget the good guys, even the bad guys speak of Orochimaru in detest -- except Kabuto and he's just a lost soul. Madara toying with the kages isn't being pure evil imo, it's doing as you said..being cocky. arrogant, showing-off...right before they're defeated/changed, etc.
 

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Im just posting this here so I don't take up tread space.
But when madara ask who is the controller of this ipwr.
Kabuto reply's im his assistant.would that not emply
that oro is the controller of Madaras edo. Has any one got
the idea that oro set up the madara edo. just a thoght
 

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Apparently you forgot the conversation Madara and Kabuto had as Naruto stop the wood tech attack with multiple clones and rasengan. "Not bad" Madara said about Naruto and Kabuto said thats the object to capture Naruto Uzumaki to witch Madara said Mito's Clan with reverence in His voice. Madara was giving Naruto a compliment something He is not accustom to doing sines there are not many that can challenge Him and His power sines the First Hokage battle.
 

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anyone with sasuke or uchiha in their user name needs to take a break from starting threads.


Ur logic implies madara wouldnt have used the rinnegan if he was toying with naruto. As the rinnegan is the final stage of madara's powers.

nd he had to use the rinnegan they pulled him out of his sassano. So ur whole post isnt the stuff of legends if you know what i mean.
 
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