this thing that u keep using to justify hashi's power as a myth to show how strong he was thats just lame hiruzen was taught by the 1st hashi and the 2nd so y wouldnt he be stronger then them both in his prime years as it has been stated by kakashi that the next generation will always surpass the previous generation so i believe hiruzen was stronger then hashi at some point and the main reason hashi's power was referd to as a myth is because the guy could create a forest from his wood element by turning chakra into life energy and being able to supress the bijuus chakra is amazing so obviously if i told u of such a person u would think its a myth
Hashirama does not compare
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3rd hokage can't stop a full powered susano'o like Hashirama can.
Hashirama has the direct bloodline of the So6P, his energy, charka and life force are far greater than Hiruzen's
Hashirama has the direct bloodline of the So6P, his energy, charka and life force are far greater than Hiruzen's
IzunaUchiha2
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the generations thing is right but hashui >>>>>>> hiruzun.
Hashi was a legend not a myth he did exist
Hashi was a legend not a myth he did exist
doesnt matter if hiruzen was taught by both, jirayia was taught by hiruzen '''strongest hokage'' so i guess i can say jirayia>hiruzen?
you need to understand kishi is a human and makes mistakes and contradications.
i doubt he didnt really think how much hype and how much powerful he would make hashirama....
i think he just said hiruzen was the strongest when it came to respect and knowledge.
plp bring up old age but luk at onoki? the geezer is tanking meteors and fighting uciha madara.
how can kishi call hiruzen the strongest hokage and then completely forget about him in part 2?
hashi>hiruzen
you need to understand kishi is a human and makes mistakes and contradications.
i doubt he didnt really think how much hype and how much powerful he would make hashirama....
i think he just said hiruzen was the strongest when it came to respect and knowledge.
plp bring up old age but luk at onoki? the geezer is tanking meteors and fighting uciha madara.
how can kishi call hiruzen the strongest hokage and then completely forget about him in part 2?
hashi>hiruzen
Darksharinnegan
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hiruzen eatch techiniques combined with telescope tech allows him to escape any batttle besides a barrier and kill his target from a distance. there would be no susanoo
TouchMyMangos
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People who say Hashi > Hiruzen are fools. They like to ignore many things in the manga. For example, the new gen surpasses the older one. They also think Edo Madara is some sort of accurate reflection of EMS Madara, thus boosting Hashirama even more. What they fail to realise, is a jutsu like perfect Susanoo would not be able to last 5 minutes for EMS Madara, especially if he is wasting chakra controlling the Kyuubi.
Naruto9001
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Some of you people take the previous generations thing too far, Madara's susano is as strong as a bijuu Hiruzen is nothing compared to them.
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TouchMyMangos
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Proof Narutobase is full of idiots these days.
He will surpass his father or his sensei, whichever way you want to look at it.
TouchMyMangos
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Neither have shown anything, so I don't know why people are using Madara's susunoo as evidence.
You could say the same thing for Hiruzen then.