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Since everyone who thought they knew madara's limits were wrong and he busted out PS (perfect susanoo)Is it safe to assume that maybe Hashi had an extra special jutsu or ability to match madara but noone but madara has seen it ,so nobody knows this power exists. Because its hard to believe he handed madara his ass with gift wrap and mokuton.

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yes
Hashi must have had some next OP move
 

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hashi never fought this version of madara .. madara has always been OP, same goes for Hashi .. but its after madara got hashi DNA that he got these new jutsu's, rinnegan, perfect susano'o etc..
 

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True - though I think it may have had something to do with control over several Bijuu, since Madara mentioned that only Bijuu could stand up to such power.

@ badoera: Not neccesarily, perfect susanoo could easily be a an EMS ability. As we have seen in the past, Madara has used lesser versions of susanoo with the Rinnegan activated, so just because you see the rinnegan doesn't mean it's a Rinnegan tech.
 

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Since everyone who thought they knew madara's limits were wrong and he busted out PS (perfect susanoo)Is it safe to assume that maybe Hashi had an extra special jutsu or ability to match madara but noone but madara has seen it ,so nobody knows this power exists. Because its hard to believe he handed madara his ass with gift wrap and mokuton.

Any thoughts?

who knows?

but i think we are definitely going to see a flashback through madara as to how the fight went :D
 

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Since everyone who thought they knew madara's limits were wrong and he busted out PS (perfect susanoo)Is it safe to assume that maybe Hashi had an extra special jutsu or ability to match madara but noone but madara has seen it ,so nobody knows this power exists. Because its hard to believe he handed madara his ass with gift wrap and mokuton.

Any thoughts?

Hmmm .. its uzumaki Mito who helped him ... Maybe she is the reason why did he beat him .. And plus .. Madara has some of Hashis cells and for some reason he is much more powerful that at that time ..
 

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To the ppl who are saying he didn't have perfect susanoo. I think he did. He was testing out all his new skills at first and with PS he seems familiar with this mode.
 

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I think the strength of madara back then when he fight hashirama is up until the susanoo cause madara has no rinnegan back then and only those with rinnegan can have perfect susanoo and speaking of ps i think the gedo statue of pain is suppose to be a perfect susanoo also but not that perfect since he is not uchiha and i think the ps has all the ability of the six paths of pain
 

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Hmmm .. its uzumaki Mito who helped him ... Maybe she is the reason why did he beat him .. And plus .. Madara has some of Hashis cells and for some reason he is much more powerful that at that time ..

U were there to witness the fight !!!!? Gosh why didnt u tell us ......
 

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I think the strength of madara back then when he fight hashirama is up until the susanoo cause madara has no rinnegan back then and only those with rinnegan can have perfect susanoo and speaking of ps i think the gedo statue of pain is suppose to be a perfect susanoo also but not that perfect since he is not uchiha and i think the ps has all the ability of the six paths of pain

I don't think PS is a rinnegan tech.

I think its the extra ability granted when EMS is achieved.
explaining why sasuke seems like he didn't power up, just uses susanoo perfectly.
 

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hashi never fought this version of madara .. madara has always been OP, same goes for Hashi .. but its after madara got hashi DNA that he got these new jutsu's, rinnegan, perfect susano'o etc..

But yet Madara, after using Meteors, Wood, Rinnegan, Perfect Susano'o, ... Still said that the only one who can stop him NOW is Hashirama. If you truly like Madara then also believe his words
 

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But yet Madara, after using Meteors, Wood, Rinnegan, Perfect Susano'o, ... Still said that the only one who can stop him NOW is Hashirama. If you truly like Madara then also believe his words

yes i agree with you, i also do believe hashi is the only one who can stop Madara .. even tho im pretty sure madara was not at this level back then (rinnegan/perfected susano'o/mokuton).. as he is now :)
 

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its true hashriama was stronger than madara back then, but it dosent mean he won easy it was above high diff 2x. but now sense madara has rinngean and mokuton he can take on hashirama mid to easy diff
 

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Hmmm .. its uzumaki Mito who helped him ... Maybe she is the reason why did he beat him .. And plus .. Madara has some of Hashis cells and for some reason he is much more powerful that at that time ..

no...just....no
 

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Hmmm .. its uzumaki Mito who helped him ... Maybe she is the reason why did he beat him .. And plus .. Madara has some of Hashis cells and for some reason he is much more powerful that at that time ..

bro you trolling right?? :flaw:
mito helped hashirama to seal the kyuubi and didnt helped him to fight madara imo

so it really proves that hashi is beyond any kages reach plus he is equal to Madara even now bcoz since Madara has rinnegan but still he thinks hashi can take him head on so I guess that clears all the hiruzen hype of being God and sh@t
 
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