[Theory] Suigetsu's Scroll

[AnimusOra]

it cannot be dragon sage location...cause since it was oro's lair and oro did experimentation there..oro neva knew the location of dragon sage btw....so i assume its rinnegan related....

Kabuto had full access to Orochimarus Lair and was the only one to have access to it. The scroll being Rinnegan related is very unlikely

 

[Rikodou]

Kabuto had full access to Orochimarus Lair and was the only one to have access to it. The scroll being Rinnegan related is very unlikely

maybe but it has to be something huge to change the war..

 

[AnimusOra]

maybe but it has to be something huge to change the war..

Exactly, look at Kabuto when he was able to summon Edo Tensei its said you need to have a huge amount of chakra to use a technique and with Sage Techs you pretty much have unlimmeted chakra by absorbing natures chakra. Kabutos plan was perfect using Edo tensie since he is kept still for a long period of time absorbing chakra and he has huge reserves. Not only that but if Sasuke does learn Sage Techs he will be able to use the same one that Kabuto uses and will know how to use them effectively against the enemy since he has been a victim to them. Think about it. Sasuke has sharingan which can read movements but its cleary shown that sage techs are more precise and faster at reacting than the sharingan, just re read the chapters of kabuto against sasuke and itachi. if sasuke has the sharingan him getting sage techs would only be a plus. Rinnegan would be a plus as well but it is way to far fetched for Orochimaru and Kabuto to have unlocked the secret of sharingan/rinnegan. There is not even evidence or proof to suggest that they could have done such a thing if the only one who did died awhile back and did keep his secret with him. Think about it, If madara told anybody it would be Tobi right? So why did Tobi feel the need to get Nagato's Rinnegan?

 

[Super Kami Guru]

thing it has to do with uchiha's ability to obtain rinnegan which explains oro's obsessions with with trying to consume the body of one

 

[Wysten]

Kabuto had full access to Orochimarus Lair and was the only one to have access to it. The scroll being Rinnegan related is very unlikely

But on the same token the entire sage mode thing is unlikely, since we know Oro never found it, hence Kabutos entire claim of becoming greater then his master. Sasuke can't possibly learn sage mode, since it's really difficult to learn, Jiarya had to have ma and pa sat on his shoulders, and Kabuto had to alter his entire body to use it. Naruto is the only known pure sage that can use it without extensive modification/assistance of somekind.

 

[Eano]

No. Suigetso said, it will change this war. How could it change? Sasuke has not any time for training Sage Mode. It must be something about Edo-Tensei or Rinnegan or Madara's body secret.

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"to gain control over the war!"

gain control sounds like gaining control over edo jutsu cause kabuto rocks the war with madara and so on...

 

[AnimusOra]

thing it has to do with uchiha's ability to obtain rinnegan which explains oro's obsessions with with trying to consume the body of one

Yes that is true, but my point is there is no evidence that supports or even really proves that Orochimaru found a way to obtain rinnegan from sharingan. Kabuto stated it was a theory meaing that its all hypothetical. You cant have a formula or conclusion from a theory if it isnt even been proven. Until kabuto witness Madara with it then he can continue to investigate how to unlock rinnegan and this was done all after Orochimaru(or Kabuto) made this scroll.

But on the same token the entire sage mode thing is unlikely, since we know Oro never found it, hence Kabutos entire claim of becoming greater then his master. Sasuke can't possibly learn sage mode, since it's really difficult to learn, Jiarya had to have ma and pa sat on his shoulders, and Kabuto had to alter his entire body to use it. Naruto is the only known pure sage that can use it without extensive modification/assistance of somekind.

Well now that isnt true at all. From what we know Naruto = Sasuke when it comes to abilities and progression when it comes to learning new abilites (ie chiodori and rasengan) as well as naruto BM and KM as to Sasukes MS and EMS. It all seems that they unlock the same equal abilities (with the exception of Sage Mode). Now naruto did learn to use sage mode faster than alot of people with the help of clones but Sasuke can learn sage mode equally as fast as its been shown with comparison with him and other techniques that naruto has learned. And from whats happening in the story Sasuke is trying as hard as he can to kill naruto. It only makes sense that he would learn to use a fighting style that stopped his own when he fought Kabuto.

 

[AnimusOra]

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"to gain control over the war!"

gain control sounds like gaining control over edo jutsu cause kabuto rocks the war with madara and so on...

Again that is correct, but the only way Kabuto was able to use Edo Tensei to such a great extent was because of natures energy supplying him with a huge amount of chakra. He was immobile gaining chakra and using it at the same time just like a transmitter but with unlimited energy when you think about it. Now the only thing Orochimarus chakra contributed for kabuto was controlling them with the talisman. it did not increase his chakra like sage mode would have. If sasuke learned Edo tensei who could he really revive? pretty much everyone is getting sealed, so who really is left??

 

[Uchicha Macho]

sasuke won't have time to train to get sage mode now.

sasuke have sharingan,stop underrating him.He learn chidori and speed less than a month.He can learn sage mode the same by copying hand seal and other stuff

 

[Kettei]

good theory

 

[OWanime]

yeah it has to be rinnegan because it goes 3tomoe= kyuubi eyed naruto, ms =sm, ems =km, bm=? xd

 

[Makz]

sasuke have sharingan,stop underrating him.He learn chidori and speed less than a month.He can learn sage mode the same by copying hand seal and other stuff

you can't copy what you can't see

 

[AnimusOra]

yeah it has to be rinnegan because it goes 3tomoe= kyuubi eyed naruto, ms =sm, ems =km, bm=? xd

How does it have to be rinnegan? alot of people keep saying that it is but they dont give me any proof that it can be. there isnt any in the manga and from what has been said sage mode seems to be whats inside the scroll. Now im not saying he wont get rinnegan or that he cant that is to bold to say. That hasnt been hinted that would happen yet or that he will even get to have rinnegan. the only scenarios for him unlocking it is either losing to naruto or madara telling him. (Again i am going based of Blaze Release's theory about madara obtaining rinnegan from losing to hashirama. if you havent read that theory yet i suggest reading it, it will disprove unlocking rinnegan will be in the scroll.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

sasuke won't have time to train to get sage mode now.

Lets remember, if Itachi turns Kabuto "good" he would be able to help Sasuke learn quickly. Also, Sage Mode is mostly just learning how to gather natural chakra. Once he learns how to do this, it might be "all" he needs to go Sage Mode.





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[Hexuze]

maybe but do you really think saskue has time to learn sage mode right now??

This... or it's prob. a way to bring back people that are sealed (All hokages and Oro.)

Oro. might get buff'd up if he does come back... hopefully with the rinnegan but thats to far fetched!

 

[AnimusOra]

Lets remember, if Itachi turns Kabuto "good" he would be able to help Sasuke learn quickly. Also, Sage Mode is mostly just learning how to gather natural chakra. Once he learns how to do this, it might be "all" he needs to go Sage Mode.





-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

That is also plausible, I didnt take that into consideration. But if Kabuto does become "good" i dont know if he will help willingly help sasuke. then again sasuke could just use genjustu on him to figure everything out.

 

[AnimusOra]

This... or it's prob. a way to bring back people that are sealed (All hokages and Oro.)

Oro. might get buff'd up if he does come back... hopefully with the rinnegan but thats to far fetched!

Now that would be very interesting if that was to happen. Summoning the first 4 hokages would be and invincible team if they were left with there own thoughts and movements

 

[MickNerks]

not sure what it is

 

[dolama]

the dragon sage mode is kabuto only, sasuke is not gonna get no sage mode

 

[AnimusOra]

the dragon sage mode is kabuto only, sasuke is not gonna get no sage mode

And why not? It doesnt seem illogical at all Sasuke has also trained under Orochimaru so he can learn sage mode