Guy > Kakashi

[EyanKhan]

i said he wait for the clear oppurtunity plus gai is kinda dumb too he can easily be put under a genjustsu

 

[Hokage Sharingan Kakashi]

Only in a fight to the death Kakashi would lose. I am willing to bet that if they actually fought in a serious a** battle Gai wouldn't be so quick to open the gates on Kakashi. Unless Kakashi were to back Gai up in to a corner like kisame did in their first fight which more than likely would happen in the first five minutes. And even then Gai would have died afterwards so it's somewhat a draw between the two. Honestly you people are forgetting just how fast kakashi really is. He snuck up on Kakuzu, Tobi, and Pein. So him opening the primary gate alone should give him enough speed to perform jutsus and clones almost as fast as Gai could with his 7th gate on.

 

[ItachiSan03]

If kakashi hides underground he cant move all that quick, gai isnt stupid (ok maybe he is but not that stupid xd) he wont start spamming gates. He'd either be prepared for an attack, or go hirodoura and blow kakashi up with the air blast. The latter would be pretty dumb and unreliable but theres a chance he would kill him if that happened.

 

[ItachiSan03]

i said he wait for the clear oppurtunity plus gai is kinda dumb too he can easily be put under a genjustsu

He doesnt look at kakashis eyes, only his feet. That would make him an easier target for kamui but gai shouldi be fast enough to escape.

 

[EyanKhan]

genjutsu wraps up gai plus kakashi wont just stand there and let gsi oprn the gates ya know

 

[Enton]

I made a post about this quite a while back...here it is:

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I'm sure everyone can agree that Naruto has been Konoha's strongest ninja for quite a while, at the very least since he mastered Sage Mode. However, what has been argued about is who is Konoha's 2nd strongest? Well, surely it's between Tsunade and Kakashi, right?

Tsunade's mastery in medical jutsu, her hype as one of the legendary sannin and her incredible strength.

Kakashi's mastery in ninjutsu, known all over the naruto-world and has even had Akatsuki members comment on how they fear him/are excited about the challenge he presents.

But I'm going to go outside the box here. I'm not gonna stick to just that, I'm going to argue for someone else, who I believe possibly surpasses Tsunade and Kakashi as Konoha's 2nd best. You should have a good idea of who I'm talking about, but if not...

It's the one and only...

Might Gai

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Would you want to fight someone with a smile as white as his? Hair as immaculate as his? Clothing style as stunning as his? And don't even get me started about those marvelous eyebrows.. You know you'd shit yourself just thinking about it.

...All joking aside here, I feel Might Gai is often underappreciated and has just as good of a case as Kakashi and Tsunade to be Konoha's 2nd strongest. Let's go stage by stage, here -

Hype -

His hype started early in the series, as Sasuke commented on him being even better than Kakashi after his fight with Lee.

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Receiving Itachi's respect as he arrived to save Asuma, Kurenai and Kakashi from getting killed.

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Receiving respect/hype from Zetsu and Itachi once again as they were on the way to the hideout.

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Receiving respect from Kisame, something that is very rare to come by.

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Part 2 of the debate for Gai

Intelligence -

Everyone likes to think that Gai is a dumbass, for one reason or another, when it's very far from the case. His intelligence feats include

Coming up with a method to fight sharingan users -

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This method was praised by both Kurenai and Asuma, as shown above, and even Kakashi, arguably Konoha's smartest ninja even found the technique to be a very smart method to use, as shown here:

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Showing better battle intelligence than a proclaimed genius in Neji -

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Gai managed to actually take his weapon away along with not getting caught in such a technique. While taking his weapon away ultimately meant nothing, it showed his combat intelligence is among the best in Konoha.

2 intelligence feats vs Kisame(round 2)

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He used his turtle in order to catch up to Kisame quicker, showing he can think calmly in pressure situations

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Using a jutsu that led Kisame to believe it was chakra based, but wasn't.

Part 3 Of The Debate For Gai

Combat Ability

Something I'm sure no one will argue about, but I feel why not add it anyway -

Showing up without being sensed/noticed by either Itachi or Kisame, and knocking Kisame away -

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Multiple combat feats vs Kisame(early shippuden)

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- Taking away Kisame's samehada

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- Moving so fast you can't even see him

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- A kick so fast that Kisame can't even finish a 2 word sentence

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- Morning Peacock which completely destroys Kisame's 30% clone[/img]

Still having the stamina, even after using the 6th gate, to fight a clone of himself, and win -

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And also having the stamina to carry Kakashi back to the village...comic relief or not, still awesome

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Combat feats vs Kisame(round 2) -

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- Knocking the hell out of Kisame

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- Fighting off one of Kisame's sharks

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-Using Asa Kujaku to try and fend off the mass amount of Sharks

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- His chakra repelling water

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- Kicking it up a notch to the 7th Gate

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- Defeating Kisame's ultimate technique, and this not even as strong as he can become(remember, still has 1 gate left to open)

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- Even after using such a draining technique, still manages to use second to none reflexes to give Kisame one hell of a punch

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- Still having the will and stamina to fight even after all of that above

War-Arc Feats -

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- Teaming up with Kakashi to stop Tobi from warping away Naruto

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- Destroys the coral on Naruto

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- Fighting the tailed beasts

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- Using morning peacock to fight the tailed beasts

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- Stating he can use the 8th gate to get rid of the tailed beasts/tailed beast bombs

All of this shows that Might Gai has as good of a case as both Tsunade and Kakashi as being Konoha's 2nd strongest ninja, and should receive much more respect than what he gets.

Informative, +rep.

 

[EyanKhan]

kakashi can use the handsign genjutsu too not only the visual one

 

[Enton]

Only in a fight to the death Kakashi would lose. I am willing to bet that if they actually fought in a serious a** battle Gai wouldn't be so quick to open the gates on Kakashi. Unless Kakashi were to back Gai up in to a corner like kisame did in their first fight which more than likely would happen in the first five minutes. And even then Gai would have died afterwards so it's somewhat a draw between the two. Honestly you people are forgetting just how fast kakashi really is. He snuck up on Kakuzu, Tobi, and Pein. So him opening the primary gate alone should give him enough speed to perform jutsus and clones almost as fast as Gai could with his 7th gate on.

7 gates guy is faster than '1 gate' Kakashi.

 

[leafninja23]

Hell no. They are equals if anything

 

[Lekqueti]

A fight between those two will be entertaining to watch. They are both strong but Gai is more likely to win.

 

[Jukain]

I think guy would tear kakashi apart.

 

[TPM48]

Hey, Kakashi is a very smart guy. Gai might open up his gates, but it takes more than power to win a battle.

 

[Enton]

Hey, Kakashi is a very smart guy. Gai might open up his gates, but it takes more than power to win a battle.

What can Kakashi do in the face of pure athleticism?

 

[TPM48]

I think guy would tear kakashi apart.

Dont underestimate Kakashi. The leaders would have crowned him the next Hokage if Tsunade didnt wake up. That means they acknowledge his strength as superior to Gai.
If Gai was stronger he would have been chosen.
Plus look at Kakashi´s accomplishments and compare them to Gai and you´ll see the difference.

 

[TPM48]

What can Kakashi do in the face of pure athleticism?

Knowing that Gai can open up the gates, I bet Kakashi would have something up his sleeve to counter.

Look at his fight with Pain (Tendo).

 

[Enton]

Knowing that Gai can open up the gates, I bet Kakashi would have something up his sleeve to counter.

Look at his fight with Pain (Tendo).

You 'bet' that Kakashi would have 'something up his sleeve'? If Guy goes all out, there's only one winner.

 

[EyanKhan]

kakashi can use both genjutsu visual and by handsigns so looking at his feet wont work so tell me how will gai deal with kakashis genjutsu

 

[-Cerberus-]

guy wins since he has his gates but kakashi overall is a better ninja.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Everyone is forgetting something.

It has been said that Kakashi can also open gates. He cannot open 7, but with his sharigan, he can open a gate to increase healing/speed/strength, use clones, hide underground, and use the 1000 jutsus that he knows at an alarming pace. It wouldnt be a murder session for Guy.




-gHost Senju, K.U.S.H. Sage

 

[Jinchuriki Brawler]

You guys are forgetting that Kakashi can also open the 8 gates, well he has been shown openin 2 of them during the chunin exams. I think it would be a tie at best