[Discussion] Theories on nagato, tsuchikage & Madara

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This is my first post so i figure i'll just say some thoughts on several topics that are as of late.

Thoughts on Nagato.
He was defeated by naruto sage mode(+ a little human bijuu mode help.) this was before narutos ramp up of powers for the war. when naruto kicked kisame in a yellow flash, wood element guy gave us the hint that he's "not quite at the 4ths level yet". Later on during the fight with tobi when naruto smacked all the bijuu energy blasts kakashi went "master?!" like minato had just saved him.
these examples like many people come up with, i don't think should be taken as exact fact. but they paint a picture of how to gauge people in the naruto world. nagato was then defeated AGAIN. this time by itachi/naruto/bee. it sounds like a 3v1 matchup that woud only make nagato look stronger in an argument. but the way the fight went was itachi quickly devised the means with which to defeat and subdue nagato for that team. whatever nagatos powers are he was not able to pull out wins.
We know nagato was given the rinnegan eye so he's not the natural owner. This could effect his skill in the same way "sasuke vs danzo" ended out. danzo is not a true blood uchiha with natural eyes and could never be a true master of those eyes. In that sense.
So bottom line is nagato does not belong near the top of all these lists.

Tsuchikage Thoughts
This seems to happen every week. Last week kabuto was near the top of every list and OOPS, itachi just subdued him. I saw like 5 people agree that tsuchikage is the strongest kage without a doubt. Obviously their reasoning comes from that huge @#$ attack that leveled the 25 susanno clones. No one bothered to mention tsunade fueling him power from behind. Team effort anyone. Right now he is the oldest kage inspiring the other kage keeping the morale up and to win for sure. Blank vs Blank it is like comparing rock paper scissors. the fights will all be different and theres no way to tell how those different fights will go with just information from this fight.
Real life situations in sports is sometimes you can beat one person in a game. They can beat another person. But you cannot beat the person they beat.



Madara Thoughts
There are two things that people have ignored for weeks now. Especially with all the Madara uchiha > ALL arguments.
I think it's a safe bet to say
Number one is.......Madara is going to lose against the five kage.
Number two is......it's going to happen before itachi dipells the edo tensai.
This has been clear to me for weeks and i'm glad i'm posting this before it is too late. I won't give 100% certainty into it but it seems the most likely.

Anyway thats a lot of text. I'll stop for now and save some for later.

I've enjoyed using this site for several weeks now. I love naruto and these forums give me food for thought and help feed my thought provoking naruto addiction. Hopefully I can add to all of this in a good way.
 
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regarding nagato,

u forgot to mention he as actually disable physically.

Also u forgot to mention that nagato has shown far better proess in the rinnegan than tobi and madara so far by using multiple path powers at the same time.


there's too little known about madara and tusokage to speculate fro now.

and welcome to the base, you seem to be a logical and neutral with your post showing you take in all the info presented in the manga and make objective judgements aotu characters regarding how they are portrayed.
 
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We dont know yet , but IMO , kages have allready proven , that they are a worthy oponent.

But it's 5 Vs 1 actualy.

That also shows , that Madara Uchiha = Pure beast.
 

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regarding nagato,

u forgot to mention he as actually disable physically.

Also u forgot to mention that nagato has shown far better proess in the rinnegan than tobi and madara so far by using multiple path powers at the same time.


there's too little known about madara and tusokage to speculate fro now.

and welcome to the base, you seem to be a logical and neutral with your post showing you take in all the info presented in the manga and make objective judgements aotu characters regarding how they are portrayed.

Guess i'll take that as supporting evidence and a compliment.
 

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We dont know yet , but IMO , kages have allready proven , that they are a worthy oponent.

But it's 5 Vs 1 actualy.

That also shows , that Madara Uchiha = Pure beast.

You could say "we don't know yet" or "it's too soon to tell" every week. But for arguments sake my conclusions were important because otherwise you get, Madara > ALL for a month. And other threads like "how the heck could the 1st beat madara."
 
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