How could Jiraiya possibly lose to Orochimaru?

Shiina..

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I know I know. Friendship But,,

If Jiraiya has no feelings about friendship with Orochimaru could he win?
I mean he mastered the sage mode. i bet orochimaru didn't.
what were his chances? Orochimaru fought once with Itachi and lose without succes.
But Jiraiya met also Itachi and Itachi was no match so he decided to escape. *Calm down Itachi fanboy's*

Jiraiya has also fought pain all 6 of them and was able to capture one! On the other hand Orochirmaru is smart. Many years he was searching for jutsu's that make him life long, right? Also he revive the first hokage and second

So? :shrug:

What IF Jiraiya and Orochirmaru fight again (then both alive) WITHOUT feelings of friendship. Who wil win then?:
 

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Jiraiya didn't master sage mode. But I think Jiraiya could kill Oro if he didn't care about him.
 

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I believe Jiraiya would be able to kill Orochimaru if he wanted to. imo. :)
 

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I mean he mastered the sage mode. i bet orochimaru didn't.

Jiraiya did mastered the sage mode but he didn't perfected the technique.


But Jiraiya met also Itachi and Itachi was no match so he decided to escape. *Calm down Itachi fanboy's*

Itachi have no intention in fighting Jiraiya.


What IF Jiraiya and Orochirmaru fight again (then both alive) WITHOUT feelings of friendship. Who wil win then?:

Hard to say.
 

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IMPOSSIBLE OROCHIMARU FOR PRESIDENT xd lol.. (i'm not fan but ive heard that once and i must use it all the time i see oro's name on threads xd ' i think oro cuz pervert has feelings and he cant kill them he said that himself too earlier.
 

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yeah if he wanted to he could; at least Jiraiya could last longer against itachi then oro could xd
 

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lol orochimaru can't die he's immortal but itachi had the sharingan "genjutsu"
 

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Edo tensei
 

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oro win...why?

edo..
super healing almost immortal
and "SNAKE" :D
 

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1) jiraiya never mastered SM
2)Itachi is powerful than jiraiya
3)jiraiya never fought all 6 pains..
4)oro will win in a rematch (this one is my thinking)
 

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Jiraiya didn't master sage mode. But I think Jiraiya could kill Oro if he didn't care about him.

Huh?? Jiraiya DID masterd the sage mode!
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The problem I see here is that Kishi symbolized that snakes > frogs from their last fight.If it comes down to Edo Tensei vs. Sage Mode, I'd choose ET. Of course Orochimaru's main weakness when using this technique is his arrogance, which has doomed several ninja before.
 

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If oro doesnt **** around he shd win. But knowing oro he will professionally let J man summon the sages, go sm and let them have have a dubstep party. He will be caught in the gen and J man or sages might seal him off
 

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When they last fought Jiraiya was incapacitated yet he managed to hold his own for a bit. We never got to see all the techniques that he was capable of. Oro for his part was not able to use his hands to mold chakra. So, back up in time to when Oro left the village and Jiraiya let him go, I think it would have been a pretty good match but in the end Jiraiya would have won. His sage mode (while imperfect) was indeed a very powerful form. Don't for get he was able to employ both Shima and Fukasaku melded with him and they were able to use their abilities as well. Jiraiya was able to basically summon an army of powerful toad warriors if he needed to (or they could summon the others if he was low on chakra.) Oro summoned snakes but never mastered the snake sage mode giving Jiraiya the advantage.
 

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I know I know. Friendship But,,

If Jiraiya has no feelings about friendship with Orochimaru could he win?
I mean he mastered the sage mode. i bet orochimaru didn't.
what were his chances? Orochimaru fought once with Itachi and lose without succes.
But Jiraiya met also Itachi and Itachi was no match so he decided to escape. *Calm down Itachi fanboy's*

Jiraiya has also fought pain all 6 of them and was able to capture one! On the other hand Orochirmaru is smart. Many years he was searching for jutsu's that make him life long, right? Also he revive the first hokage and second

So? :shrug:

What IF Jiraiya and Orochirmaru fight again (then both alive) WITHOUT feelings of friendship. Who wil win then?:

in a serious battle (which all vs battles should be) jiraiya would still lose

1. no time to enter sage mode

oro didn't need sage mode, or else he'd be too hax. oro lost to totsuka blade...jiraiya would suffer the same fate. oro was caught in itachi's genjutsu, but was still able to move. jiraiya would have been easily caught also, but would jiraiya be able to move? idk, i doubt it.

itachi didn't fight j-man because it would be stupid to battle near j-man's allies (aka the leaf). also, itachi doesn't have respect for oro, but he has respect for j-man.

what tech has j-man perfected?...oro perfected edo tensei. that tech would nearly trash jiraiya alone. and all you can say is SO? to a man who killed 2 kages in a very short period of time...

orochimaru would killmore than 3 peins before being defeated. he'd outlast jiraiya in a fight against pein. that's common sense. all of j-man's summons < Manda + 8 branch + 3 headed snake...so j-man would lose. every time. unless he starts in sage mode. oro is just on another level. :sy:
 

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When jiraya can beat perfected hashirama and tobirama, call me
 

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J-man knew how to use sage mode but he never mastered it the way naruto did
 
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