Kakuzu is on Itachi's level

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i agree kakazu would have been a good fight for itachi but hearts couldnt keep him alive from amaterasu and one swipe of the totsuka blade and all hearts are gone soo he would have to try to avoid susanoo
 

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sure about that?

re-read manga

;)

Yeah really sure because he can only use it against someone with a sharingan
as we have already seen because if he could use it as he pleased he would've used it against kabuto and forced him to break edo tensei without having to pay with his eyesight ;)

apparently you should re-read the manga
 

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How about you can't say that something is old because nothing has changed in that case? You can't say that Bee was wrong with you can free yourself from a Jutsu because it actually was shown that he freed himself and after that theres was no other occasion where Hachibi wasn't able to rescue him. Are you really trying not just to convince me but also other member that I'm ignoring the manga because I fanboy way too much? I already stated my argument and I cited it as well.

btw. heres the whole scene sasuke is definitely using his MS + he's holding his eye afterwards :rolleyes:

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Okay wait why the hell would Danzo (someone who knows about the Sharingan and all its techniques) compare tsukuyomi to an ordinary Sharingan Genjutsu?

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And controling time in the Genjutsu doesn't change the ****ing fact that you can free yourself from the Genjutsu? Even if Kakuzu got caught in tsukuyomi, even if it felt like 21783812783182813million years the other hearts can get him out of it thats what we are talking about, so the time in the genjutsu doesn't matter since we are talking about rescueing someone from the genjutsu.
It has already been explained that Kakuzu's hearts can't stop genjutsu by more people that just me.

Maybe because Sasuke's attack was a genjutsu and so is Tsukuyomi. Regardless Danzo didn't say Sasuke's genjutsu was Tsukuyomi and even if Danzo did (which he didn't) Danzo still said it was nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukuyomi. The point is that if Sasuke has Tsukuyomi (he doesn't) it isn't near as strong as Itachi's.Danzo also says that Sasuke can't control time like Itachi which leads to the next point.
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Under Itachi's Tsukuyomi Kakashi's instant became 72 hours. Bee was under Sasuke's genjutsu. If it would have been Itachi's Tsukuyomi then Bee's instant under genjutsu would have been 72 hours. If Kakuzu's hearts can snap him out of Tsukuyomi (which they can't), Kakuzu still would have suffered at least 72 hours just like Kakashi.

So time does make a difference if Tsukuyomi's effects can be canceled (which they can't). An instant is enough to cripple and possibly kill with Tsukuyomi.
 
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Kakuzu was a beast, he got hella trolled.
 

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Yes Kakuzu is highly underrated he faced the 1st hokage whilst EMS Madara lost with the kyubii doing the same thing

Many forget that it was multiple people vs him even though Naruto finished him of with a rasen shurrikan in the end
 

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Yes Kakuzu is highly underrated he faced the 1st hokage whilst EMS Madara lost with the kyubii doing the same thing

Many forget that it was multiple people vs him even though Naruto finished him of with a rasen shurrikan in the end

This.
 

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Nope, Itachi could smoke him. Kakuzu may be close to Itachi's level but he is not there.
 
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Kakuzu is of course on itachi's level. The thing is itachi is a well rounded ninja that is suited for any confrontation, he has tools an justu that can change the flow of battle no matter who he is fighting. That's why so many people won't except that there equals. Kakuzu is an experience ninja who fought the shodaime an lived an was able to kill both the elders an (I believe, can't recall at the moment) the kage of his village that alone is enough to put him on equal footing with itachi. Feats, abilities, and hype determine nothin between to shinobi they play a large role maybe but are not the deciding figure to say who is stronger. I believe after itachi, tobi, an nagato kakuzu was the strongest next comin sasori, I also believe kakuzu would also give itachi a good fight all 5 powerful chakra natures able to cast off a five heart simultaneously, he's fast an physicaly strong. There's no way kakuzu isn't on itachi level.
 

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Kakuzu is of course on itachi's level. The thing is itachi is a well rounded ninja that is suited for any confrontation, he has tools an justu that can change the flow of battle no matter who he is fighting. That's why so many people won't except that there equals. Kakuzu is an experience ninja who fought the shodaime an lived an was able to kill both the elders an (I believe, can't recall at the moment) the kage of his village that alone is enough to put him on equal footing with itachi. Feats, abilities, and hype determine nothin between to shinobi they play a large role maybe but are not the deciding figure to say who is stronger. I believe after itachi, tobi, an nagato kakuzu was the strongest next comin sasori, I also believe kakuzu would also give itachi a good fight all 5 powerful chakra natures able to cast off a five heart simultaneously, he's fast an physicaly strong. There's no way kakuzu isn't on itachi level.
Exactly my thoughts. Eventhough i see Itachi winning more than not, Kakuzu is really a dangerous opponent like i've said :)
 

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Honestly, I always thought that Kakuzu was the most powerful Akatsuki member after Pain and Itachi.

I wouldn't say he's on Itachi's level, but not that far behind, either.
He certainly would exhaust Itachi if the two were to fight each other. U_U

Oh, and congratulations on having courage to create this topic. With Itachi fanboys claiming he can solo current Naruto, you're probably now a victim of their rage. I'd give you a rep+ for that, but cannot currently.
 
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Honestly, I always thought that Kakuzu was the most powerful Akatsuki member after Pain and Itachi.

I wouldn't say he's on Itachi's level, but not that far behind, either.
He certainly would exhaust Itachi if the two were to fight each other. U_U

Oh, and congratulations on having courage to create this topic. With Itachi fanboys claiming he can solo current Naruto, you're probably now a victim of their rage. I'd give you a rep+ for that, but cannot currently.
Honestly i don't care about opinions coming from Itachi fanboys. When i think about something i create my threads regardless, but thanks for the rep :)
 

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Why are Poeple these days Calling everyone Who can't Agree with them Fanboyz ?

It's not about disagreeing. If one says they think Kakuzu is not on Itachi's level, then it's okay.
If some say he can solo current Naruto, Nagato, Madara... this is out of question.
 
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