When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[Anorien16]

You forgot that in base mode he cannot throw the shuriken. Its not easy for him to score a hit with rasen shuriken in base mode. Oh and you forgot that Sasuke's elemental affinity is Fire, he gets advantage over Naruto's wind nature.

Good point , but theoratically rasensurikan can become a flaming rasensuriken and hit sasuke and or simply cut through the katon.... but its hypothatical and lets ingore it. Katon probably wins, but there wld be an explosion.

 

[Mishima]

"When Sasuke first used it unintentionally on Tobi, his right eye took Itachi's Mangekyō Sharingan form." this is what I'm referring to. Bottom line, Sasuke was given powers. No way around that.

You got to be kidding.:sy: Are you denying the fact that Amaterasu is a technique of the Mangekyo Sharingan.
When Sasuke first used it unintentionally on Tobi it was a jutsu Itachi used on Sasuke called, Transcription Seal: Amaterasu.

You obviously didn't read the link so here it is again:

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Here Sasuke is using Amaterasu with his own Mangekyo

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[Anorien16]

it seems you didn't read the opening post, the opening post says sharingan was given to the uchiha by the sage
and why are ppl comparing when naruto first got sage mode to now? He had improved even to the point he can enter it almost instantly and the time should have extend to like 15 - 20mins since he has been using it countinously and he praticed it after then

Well ppl complain as they wld see their fev character will lose. Also ur not counting the fact without kurama ma and pa can fuse with them.

 

[Anorien16]

You got to be kidding.:sy: Are you denying the fact that Amaterasu is a technique of the Mangekyo Sharingan.
When Sasuke first used it unintentionally on Tobi it was a jutsu Itachi used on Sasuke called, Transcription Seal: Amaterasu.

You obviously didn't read the link so here it is again:

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Here Sasuke is using Amaterasu with his own Mangekyo

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Hmm, ur right there.......

 

[warlee]

You forgot that in base mode he cannot throw the shuriken. Its not easy for him to score a hit with rasen shuriken in base mode. Oh and you forgot that Sasuke's elemental affinity is Fire, he gets advantage over Naruto's wind nature.

sasuke's fire tech can only gain the advantage when the tech are on the same level and naruto's tech is s-rank all sasuke's fire are not higher than b-rank so forget that

 

[YourMom]

Thats the funny part, sasuke dont have tsukiomy.... thats why i have my doubts what sealing his powers in sasuke meant. It can also mean sealing part of his powers to activate only on certain conditions as a failsafe.

"Sasuke is one of the rare few Uchiha who obtained the the ability to use Susanoo, which he can use in the same manner as his Cursed Seal, manifesting single parts at a time; the technique's development is dependent on Sasuke's extreme emotion, usually anger. Sasuke initially uses incomplete versions of Susanoo due to various reasons. During his fight with Danzō, he uses a more complete version, and demonstrates its ability to use different weapons. Later on, during his fight with Kakashi, he perfected his Susanoo into an armoured form similar to Itachi's. Unlike Itachi, Sasuke's Amaterasu comes from his left eye, and Tsukuyomi along with his ability to manipulate and extinguish the black flames from his right eye. The last ability Sasuke demonstrated with his Mangekyō Sharingan was a technique that manipulates the black flames of Amaterasu known as Blaze Release."

 

[Mishima]

Hmm, ur right there.......

thank you. That other guy thinks Itachi gave him Amaterasu.

 

[warlee]

Yet. I'm sure there are some hand seals that can do that, no? I'm just giving examples or scenarios to how Sasuke fans can stop crying about how naruto has Kurama sealed inside of him.

no hand seal can do that and sasuke fan are town criers they won't stop even if you put padlock on their mouth they will still sulk

 

[YourMom]

You got to be kidding.:sy: Are you denying the fact that Amaterasu is a technique of the Mangekyo Sharingan.
When Sasuke first used it unintentionally on Tobi it was a jutsu Itachi used on Sasuke called, Transcription Seal: Amaterasu.

You obviously didn't read the link so here it is again:

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Here Sasuke is using Amaterasu with his own Mangekyo

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I wasn't denying it I was saying the first time he used it itachi gave him the power which is what I was referring to. Sasuke has been given powers throughout the series and this instance was no different.

 

[Sephy100]

Well, u r turning about the point now u r losing..... we r excluding inheirited sharingan and obtained external kurama ..... care to explain how can sasuke unlock MS without sharingan? Also is rasenshuriken naruto's only attack? And is naruto destained to miss with rasensuriken? its a one shot kill and thus a finisher. Sasuke's chidori once took 1/3 of his chakra(exam time), did it prevent him from beating gaara in third round? Also i dont understant how naruto decived? he didnt tack to his opponents to a false sence of security and attacked under their guard, he talked with them then continued fighting and u call that deciving? Now serously ur really a sore loser ....

Like I said you're still not making sense. If you unlock something then that means you did or something happened to you to earn it. He unlocked sharingan as a kid but now you want to take it away from him. I for one don't really care but alot of you naruto fans love to say he was given MS when he really wasn't. You originally asked for proof as to how Naruto decieves his opponents

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go down to where it says deception and strategy. Kirin is a one-shot killer and a finisher but does that mean he's guaranteed to use it in time? No it doesn't and I only used rasenshuriken since it's the move that takes away the most of his chakra. Naruto is not guaranteed to miss but he's not guaranteed to hit either.

 

[YourMom]

no hand seal can do that and sasuke fan are town criers they won't stop even if you put padlock on their mouth they will still sulk

How did tobi do it to Kushina? Granted her seal was weakened.

 

[Anorien16]

"Sasuke is one of the rare few Uchiha who obtained the the ability to use Susanoo, which he can use in the same manner as his Cursed Seal, manifesting single parts at a time; the technique's development is dependent on Sasuke's extreme emotion, usually anger. Sasuke initially uses incomplete versions of Susanoo due to various reasons. During his fight with Danzō, he uses a more complete version, and demonstrates its ability to use different weapons. Later on, during his fight with Kakashi, he perfected his Susanoo into an armoured form similar to Itachi's. Unlike Itachi, Sasuke's Amaterasu comes from his left eye, and Tsukuyomi along with his ability to manipulate and extinguish the black flames from his right eye. The last ability Sasuke demonstrated with his Mangekyō Sharingan was a technique that manipulates the black flames of Amaterasu known as Blaze Release."

Well what does it prove except that if u want to defeat sasuke's susano u need tell him a joke and make him laugh(chase his anger away).

 

[YourMom]

Well what does it prove except that if u want to defeat sasuke's susano u need tell him a joke and make him laugh(chase his anger away).

You didn't see where it says that he uses tsokuyomi with his right eye?

 

[warlee]

How did tobi do it to Kushina? Granted her seal was weakened.

kushina is not in sync w/ the kyuubi

 

[natssuu]

sasuke's fire tech can only gain the advantage when the tech are on the same level and naruto's tech is s-rank all sasuke's fire are not higher than b-rank so forget that

No, Yamato made it quite clear that rasenshuriken would be useless against normal Fireball jutsu.

 

[YourMom]

kushina is not in sync w/ the kyuubi

So in no way shape or form can the bijuu be suppressed while in perfect sync with the host by a hand seal?

 

[Hashirama Senju 48]

sasuke's fire tech can only gain the advantage when the tech are on the same level and naruto's tech is s-rank all sasuke's fire are not higher than b-rank so forget that

okforget abt d elements

Explain how Naruto will score a hit on Sasuke with that Shuriken when he is not able to throw it.
Naruto has a better chance with rasengan. The shuriken will just suck him dry and give Sasuke the win.

 

[Anorien16]

Like I said you're still not making sense. If you unlock something then that means you did or something happened to you to earn it. He unlocked sharingan as a kid but now you want to take it away from him. I for one don't really care but alot of you naruto fans love to say he was given MS when he really wasn't. You originally asked for proof as to how Naruto decieves his opponents

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go down to where it says deception and strategy. Kirin is a one-shot killer and a finisher but does that mean he's guaranteed to use it in time? No it doesn't and I only used rasenshuriken since it's the move that takes away the most of his chakra. Naruto is not guaranteed to miss but he's not guaranteed to hit either.

Ur not making sense either...... the thread is about naruto without kurama and sasuke without sharingan SO IS THIS CLEAR SOLE LOSER? Karin takes much more time to form and needs storm clouds and rasensuriken may take a lot of his chakra but is it naruto's only attack? PLUS it may take a lot of chakra but does it leave him useless? Just like rasensuriken sasuke's katon or raiton are not garanteed to hit ..... just admit it ur a sore loser, now u r out of options ur attacking naruto's sage mode. Base mode means only the abilities that can be LEARNT, so does naruto has the chance of learning sharingan? no, but does sasuke has the chance of learning SM? yes. Now do u get it? OR u gona pretend i m not making sense.

 

[Mishima]

I wasn't denying it I was saying the first time he used it itachi gave him the power which is what I was referring to. Sasuke has been given powers throughout the series and this instance was no different.

You act like Sasuke was the only one given power ups.
Naruto-given Kurama
Kakashi-given Sharingan
Itachi-given sharingan
Madara-given sharingan
Every Uchiha-given sharingan
and there's many more.

For the whole 3 years when Sasuke was with Orochimaru, do you think Sasuke was sitting on his @$$ the whole time doing nothing. He was training. So don't be fooled.

 

[warlee]

Like I said you're still not making sense. If you unlock something then that means you did or something happened to you to earn it. He unlocked sharingan as a kid but now you want to take it away from him. I for one don't really care but alot of you naruto fans love to say he was given MS when he really wasn't. You originally asked for proof as to how Naruto decieves his opponents

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go down to where it says deception and strategy. Kirin is a one-shot killer and a finisher but does that mean he's guaranteed to use it in time? No it doesn't and I only used rasenshuriken since it's the move that takes away the most of his chakra. Naruto is not guaranteed to miss but he's not guaranteed to hit either.

i see that you are part of those ppl that didn't finish readin the op or didn't understand it the uchiha was given something by the so6p and that is sharingan notice the word "given" and since naruto too was given the kyuubi by his father then uchiha fans don't need to say naruto using kyuubi is not fair if they say so then the uchiha using sharingan is not fair because they are given the sharingan both are given to them.