When You are Comparing Naruto to Sasuke For God's Sake Dont Use Kurama as Excuse

[DeViliShChild]

You didn't read did you? It clearly stated he suppressed kUrama back Into his cage basically cutting off the leakage of his chakra into narutos subconscious. If you go back and read/watch that particular part of the arc you'd see Sasuke standing next to naruto infront of kurama. Didn't look like anyone was going to attack.

The cage only exists if naruto lets it. If naruto open's the cage where does sauske put him back into?

 

[YourMom]

Yes Sasuke awaken his Ms and Naruto was given Kurama

Sasuke awaken Ms after he learn truth about itachi he got his brother eyes later. Naruto was given Kurama

^^you wrong

Sasuke was born with sharingan, but any ability after that was given to him. Curse mark, ms and EMS. Oro gave him curse mark, itachi basically died because of his illness

^^me right

 

[Anorien16]

The cage only exists if naruto lets it. If naruto open's the cage where does sauske put him back into?

good point, i missed that out..... it wont help if jinkchuriki is still there, sharingan can control kurama not supress it (at least not completely). Jinkchuriki are created for better control of beast's raw power so they are vessel, prison and conduit at once. Also if it could be so easily supressed why they had to bring a uzumaki to be a jinkchuriki it could have been given to a uchiha if they could supress it that easily.

 

[senjuuzumaki451]

Sasuke is nothing without sharingan, without kurama baritone has sage mode which is the body of the sage so naruto is still stronger

 

[YourMom]

The cage only exists if naruto lets it. If naruto open's the cage where does sauske put him back into?

The cage is a metaphor to show the nine tails supressed chakra. If the cage wasn't there the nine tails chakra would completely control naruto.

 

[YourMom]

Well if u didnt notice:
1. Sasuke only supressed part leaking out, now kurama's chakra is kind of a merged with naruto he can use his or kurama's at will.
2. Naruto didnt attack cos he was like 'WTF is sasuke's doing here?", he was surprised and would not be second time......

It was THEN and now is NOW.

1 h he still supressed the nine tails chakra which was my point.

2.)That was then with weaker sharingan ability. Did I say Sasuke was going to do this to naruto? No, but it was shown it could be done so that doesn't mean it can't be done again was the point I was making.

 

[Anorien16]

1 h he still supressed the nine tails chakra which was my point.

2.)That was then with weaker sharingan ability. Did I say Sasuke was going to do this to naruto? No, but it was shown it could be done so that doesn't mean it can't be done again was the point I was making.

And i m making the point that if naruto would be generous enough to be supressed like that.... remember kurama was a antagonist then but now he is a friend. Plus, now naruto and kurama's chakra is different, it merges with him not forms a cloak.

 

[YourMom]

And i m making the point that if naruto would be generous enough to be supressed like that.... remember kurama was a antagonist then but now he is a friend. Plus, now naruto and kurama's chakra is different, it merges with him not forms a cloak.

Again, I'm not saying Sasuke will do it again and I'm not saying it will happen to naruto again. My original point was the uchiha can supress the tailed beasts chakra whether it be a little or a lot it happened which doesn't give Sasuke fans the excuse that naruto is only stronger because of kurama.

 

[Anorien16]

Again, I'm not saying Sasuke will do it again and I'm not saying it will happen to naruto again. My original point was the uchiha can supress the tailed beasts chakra whether it be a little or a lot it happened which doesn't give Sasuke fans the excuse that naruto is only stronger because of kurama.

Well why did u pick it up then? wasteing time over that :sy: ..... also uchiha supressing skill is also not that good, if it was why the hell did they bother to bring a uzumaki?..... ya ur right, Minus kurama, naruto still has his mother's chakra and life force, sage mode and rasensuriken, where as sasuke minus sharingan has katon and chidori. So naruto beats him there.....

 

[Sephy100]

oh yeah he is just a Puppet which Has No Chakra Thank You sir For Explaining it :flaw:

No one called him a puppet so fail on your part. I'll revise my statement: He has little base chakra. And he has Kurama so his base chakra pales in comparison to Sasuke's. Throughout the whole series Sasuke increases his chakra by himself while naruto just draws on more and more of kurama's chakra. Don't get mad at me because your a fanboy that cant realize the truth.

 

[YourMom]

Well why did u pick it up then? wasteing time over that :sy: ..... also uchiha supressing skill is also not that good, if it was why the hell did they bother to bring a uzumaki?..... ya ur right, Minus kurama, naruto still has his mother's chakra and life force, sage mode and rasensuriken, where as sasuke minus sharingan has katon and chidori. So naruto beats him there.....

I chose the example of Sasuke suppressing the nine tails chakra after your disagreement with my original post about the uchiha being able to supress/control the tailed beasts chakra (which has been shown Atleast 3 times).

 

[bobonosis]

Tell me some Jutsui without Sharingan That can beat Normal Naruto ???

Quilin>Rasenshuriken

 

[Sephy100]

Well why did u pick it up then? wasteing time over that :sy: ..... also uchiha supressing skill is also not that good, if it was why the hell did they bother to bring a uzumaki?..... ya ur right, Minus kurama, naruto still has his mother's chakra and life force, sage mode and rasensuriken, where as sasuke minus sharingan has katon and chidori. So naruto beats him there.....

Naruto needs clones to do all of his moves. Sasuke doesn't. The time it takes Naruto to create a rasenshuriken, with four clones, Sasuke would've already killed him. And Sasuke's taijutsu, genjutsu, hand seals, and ninjutsu are much better than Naruto's is. You forgot to note that Naruto needs clones to maintain his Sage mode. And if you're counting sage mode then it's only right to count the curse seal mark. Sorry but Naruto without Kurama is weaker than Sasuke.

 

[Anorien16]

No one called him a puppet so fail on your part. I'll revise my statement: He has little base chakra. And he has Kurama so his base chakra pales in comparison to Sasuke's. Throughout the whole series Sasuke increases his chakra by himself while naruto just draws on more and more of kurama's chakra. Don't get mad at me because your a fanboy that cant realize the truth.

Well do u remember the fact that keeping kurama sealed takes powerful chakra? Also that uzumaki clan is famous for having powerful chakra and strong life force?
Plus can u prove that naruto has low chakra? i havent came across any material that says that.........

 

[Anorien16]

Naruto needs clones to do all of his moves. Sasuke doesn't. The time it takes Naruto to create a rasenshuriken, with four clones, Sasuke would've already killed him. And Sasuke's taijutsu, genjutsu, hand seals, and ninjutsu are much better than Naruto's is. You forgot to note that Naruto needs clones to maintain his Sage mode. And if you're counting sage mode then it's only right to count the curse seal mark. Sorry but Naruto without Kurama is weaker than Sasuke.

Also u forgot the fact that without kurama ma and pa will have no problem merging with naruto and gather narural energy for him (as it was kurama that prevented their merging in the first place) so minus kurama or kurama as a friend naruto has infinite natural energy (theoretically, if u can remember jirya never running out of sage mode with ma and pa by him). So continuois sage mode= faster chakra recovery= clones= full power

 

[Sephy100]

Well do u remember the fact that keeping kurama sealed takes powerful chakra? Also that uzumaki clan is famous for having powerful chakra nad strong life force?
Plus can u prove that naruto has low chakra? i havent came across any material that says that.........

If he couldn't even make a clone while in school when everyone else could then his chakra must suck, at the time but still gives perspective to how low it was. Plus every attack that involves his rasengan and varients of it require a clone to make. Plus he needs clones to activate sage mode. If he has to constantly make clones to perform his moves then it stands to reason that without the clones Naruto's attacks become severly limited. Sasuke's isn't that high either but it's a helluva lot more than Naruto's(base chakra)

 

[YourMom]

Naruto needs clones to do all of his moves. Sasuke doesn't. The time it takes Naruto to create a rasenshuriken, with four clones, Sasuke would've already killed him. And Sasuke's taijutsu, genjutsu, hand seals, and ninjutsu are much better than Naruto's is. You forgot to note that Naruto needs clones to maintain his Sage mode. And if you're counting sage mode then it's only right to count the curse seal mark. Sorry but Naruto without Kurama is weaker than Sasuke.

The cloned only aid naruto to perform his techniques faster than normally really with the exception of sage mode. Naruto has summoned his shadow clones numerous amounts of time without anyone rushing in and killing him because it doesn't take longer than what, 5 seconds to scream "shadow clone jutsu" and summon 2+ clones. I'd say they're even in taijutsu, Sasuke has a slight advantage in genjutsu, but I think it's about equal in ninjutsu. Btw Sasuke doesn't have his curse mark anymore itachi got rid of it when he sealed oro from sasukes body. Without kurama naruto = Sasuke. With kurama naruto > sasuke

 

[YourMom]

If he couldn't even make a clone while in school when everyone else could then his chakra must suck, at the time but still gives perspective to how low it was. Plus every attack that involves his rasengan and varients of it require a clone to make. Plus he needs clones to activate sage mode. If he has to constantly make clones to perform his moves then it stands to reason that without the clones Naruto's attacks become severly limited. Sasuke's isn't that high either but it's a helluva lot more than Naruto's(base chakra)

That has nothing to do with low or high chakra it's about the technique.

 

[Sephy100]

Also u forgot the fact that without kurama ma and pa will have no problem merging with naruto and gather narural energy for him (as it was kurama that prevented their merging in the first place) so minus kurama or kurama as a friend naruto has infinite natural energy (theoretically, if u can remember jirya never running out of sage mode with ma and pa by him). So continuois sage mode= faster chakra recovery= clones= full power

Where does it say that sage mode recovers chakra? Also, Jiraiya was a sannin meaning that his base chakra was leagues above Naruto and the same holds true for Sasuke. Jiraiya had age and experience and trained alot longer as a sage.

 

[YourMom]

Where does it say that sage mode recovers chakra? Also, Jiraiya was a sannin meaning that his base chakra was leagues above Naruto and the same holds true for Sasuke. Jiraiya had age and experience and trained alot longer as a sage.

Naruto has better chakra reserves than jiraiya and was able to perfect sage mode while jiraiya wasn't